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Digi7ech 01-05-05 04:11 PM

Honestly I would rather buy from FC3S over Erebuni.

It's because I am supporting the rotary community. Not a company with some nasty generic kits.

Also $700 shipped for a Carbon fiber TII hood is a reasonable price.
They make these things one at a time. The quality of mine is damn good(although there is some small chipping of the top gelcoat on one edge).

If some one made a CF hood w/ functional reverse scoop then I would buy it when I go front mount. It will just atake a long time due to financial problems.
SD The front bumper looks pretty sweet. I woudl buy one from you guys if I had the money.

Drag'nGT 01-05-05 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by scathcart
Call Dave Gibson of FC3s.org and ask him how many of the QUALITY, DECENTLY PRICED carbon hoods he has sold, after years of everyone asking for them.

FC owners are too cheap to pay for decent products. That's why I refuse to advertise any of the items I build.

I think people accept a CF hood in the $350-$450 price range because that's how much many companies charge. If it's a product that many of us want, ie. reverse scoop CF hood, a good bit of us will buy them. I would.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 01-05-05 05:13 PM

I would never buy anything from erebuni. I've seen a lot of kits from them come horriblly packaged and damaged in the process. I would rather pay the extra for the fc3s hood.....which I did. Its perfect and I have no complaints.

Evil Aviator 01-05-05 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by scathcart
Call Dave Gibson of FC3s.org and ask him how many of the QUALITY, DECENTLY PRICED carbon hoods he has sold, after years of everyone asking for them.

FC owners are too cheap to pay for decent products. That's why I refuse to advertise any of the items I build.

That, and those FC owners who do have money are usually educated enough to realize that a CF hood does not offer a significant advantage over an aluminum hood, except for professional competition where a race-specific hood would be used in lieu of a show car hood. On the other hand, the Honda guys do not have the choice of an aluminum hood, and they are almost always ignorant enough to believe that a CF hood has magical properties like superior heat dissipation and increased hp potential. IMO it's going to be really tough to sell a CF hood unless it has a significant style difference that appeals to the younger FC owners.

Bigretardhead 01-05-05 05:25 PM

well, IMHO, it doesn't hurt to have erebuni make the hood. the more people making it, the cheaper it will be.

also, the place where erebuni has an advantage, is that they are fairly well known , where as FC3s.org is probably unheard of outside of the few websites for FC's around the internet. and believe it or not, a LOT of people that modify their FC's don't post on these forums all the time, in which case, probably do not know about the FC3s.org hood, where as they will see erebuni parts advertised in their favorite car magazine or whatever.

Tierce 01-05-05 06:12 PM

i think an underlying problem that many people think about is the fact that they don't want to buy a hood that needs to be shipped to them. i certainly don't. it's so very easy for it to get damaged (even with proper packing) that it's just something i for one would never want to have to worry about. i wouldn't buy a hood that i couldn't go pick up myself.

that said and done...if i needed a new hood and went CF, i'd definately get the FC3S hood over any erebuni, but not until i had been trying to locate an AL hood for a goodly amount of time.

Skiles2070 01-05-05 06:15 PM

I have found CF TII hoods at $300 or less, but I would still buy that than that erebuni shit.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 01-05-05 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Skiles2070
I have found CF TII hoods at $300 or less, but I would still buy that than that erebuni shit.

Thats more of like a racing hood. Its not show grade cf. There is a difference but both are nice hoods.

Rxmfn7 01-05-05 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
That, and those FC owners who do have money are usually educated enough to realize that a CF hood does not offer a significant advantage over an aluminum hood, except for professional competition where a race-specific hood would be used in lieu of a show car hood. On the other hand, the Honda guys do not have the choice of an aluminum hood, and they are almost always ignorant enough to believe that a CF hood has magical properties like superior heat dissipation and increased hp potential. IMO it's going to be really tough to sell a CF hood unless it has a significant style difference that appeals to the younger FC owners.

I agree completely. Personally, I wouldnt hesitate to buy a nice reverse vent hood in the $4-500 range. But... for just a regular N/A or T2 hood that weighs barely any less than my aluminum T2 hood I already have, I just dont see the point.

Madrx7racer 01-05-05 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
That, and those FC owners who do have money are usually educated enough to realize that a CF hood does not offer a significant advantage over an aluminum hood, except for professional competition where a race-specific hood would be used in lieu of a show car hood. On the other hand, the Honda guys do not have the choice of an aluminum hood, and they are almost always ignorant enough to believe that a CF hood has magical properties like superior heat dissipation and increased hp potential. IMO it's going to be really tough to sell a CF hood unless it has a significant style difference that appeals to the younger FC owners.

:werd: IF i HAD the money to spend I'd buy more suspension upgrades...

Bigretardhead 01-05-05 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryWeaponSE7EN
Thats more of like a racing hood. Its not show grade cf. There is a difference but both are nice hoods.


where is this? I'd like to have more of a racing hood, especially if its under $300

Evil Aviator 01-06-05 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bigretardhead
where is this? I'd like to have more of a racing hood, especially if its under $300

Keep in mind that the race hoods look awful, are usually flimsy, and usually require fitting and custom fasteners and/or hood pins.

Most race teams just make their own parts. I'm not sure who is offering CF parts to the public right now, but you can get cheap fiberglass race parts here:
http://www.piner.com/japco/prices.htm

Bigretardhead 01-06-05 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Keep in mind that the race hoods look awful, are usually flimsy, and usually require fitting and custom fasteners and/or hood pins.

well, that's how my current hood is, but its not even light. lol.

thanks for the link!

sec gen 87 01-06-05 02:45 AM

i agree about buying from fc3s.org. I bought a body kit from erebuni and it took 3 1/2 months to arrive and nobody seemed to know where it was. every time i called they put on the phone with 4 different people and hold times were insane. couldn't give me a tracking # until day before arrival. chipped to shit when recieved, called them and thats normal was reply. didn't fit, had to do modifications to kit, mold sideskirts and it cost a lot of money to have done. + had to pay xtra for corrective bodywork. they blame bodyman even though took it to three places. On the other hand bought cf gauge pod from dave and it was cracked on the edge when recieved. Called him next day and recieved another three days later without even getting any damage verification. Now thats service. screw erebuni they suckass.

YearsOfDecay 01-06-05 09:09 AM

:bsflag:

I CLAIM SHENANIGANS...

This the email i got back from Erebuni


Sorry, we have no plans of making a hood for your car.


>I've been looking for a replacement hood for my second gen RX-7 (88 TII)
>
>I heard through the grapevine that you may be producing a CF hood
>for these cars in the future..
>
>If so I would be very interested. I have a TII, but have switched
>to a Front Mount Intercooler, so I would be looking for a Vent hood
>or a Stock Stlye N/A hood (no scoop) with the Vent Hood being
>preferable as I want to eliminate the hood scoop/ bug eater, but yet
>retain some airflow.
>
>Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Shane Huss

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 01-06-05 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bigretardhead
well, that's how my current hood is, but its not even light. lol.

thanks for the link!

http://www.awrracing.com/pages/body.html

BlueSteel 01-06-05 01:16 PM

that site is nasty. no prices tho?

tecknomage 01-06-05 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Skiles2070
I have found CF TII hoods at $300 or less, but I would still buy that than that erebuni shit.


hears the other coupple hundred bucks that they dident put on those hoods

$ 160 for a 4' x 4' sheed of Decorative Carbon Fiber

http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/prod...14042462287545

http://www.tapplastics.com/uploads/p...rbon_fiber.jpg

SDrotary-FC 01-06-05 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by BlueSteel
that site is nasty. no prices tho?

tony's stuff is some of the best i have seen i can get prices and stuff for you as well

Digi7ech 01-06-05 04:08 PM

OK forgot to add one more thing. Some companies do not use full CF for their hoods.

Your $3-400 hoods may just be fiberglass bodied hoods with a CF overlay.
The FC3S hood is full CF with Fiber glass under frame. Not just a layer of CF over a normal FG hood.

Drag'nGT 01-06-05 04:56 PM

<------ waiting for reverse scoop hood.

Once someone makes them, I'll weigh out the 'guality'. I'm just looking for a functional reverse scoop hood.

Skiles2070 01-06-05 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryWeaponSE7EN
Thats more of like a racing hood. Its not show grade cf. There is a difference but both are nice hoods.

naw... its a great hood, I looked at all the seams and edges and they are clean, I can get pics to show you...

Dltreezan 01-06-05 09:14 PM

look man, i make this stuff and plan on having my own website soon with my own products and my own custom hoods as well as other stuff but I will tell you from what i have seen and from what I have understood from someone that can manufacture this stuff that FC3S is everybit worth what they charge and looks to be a great buy. If there is anyone that has anything to gain by saying that it wouldn't be me but I prefer to be honest especially when there is a great product on the market.

jreynish 01-06-05 09:29 PM

Dave's Hood are Top Notch, you go to Japan and find a hood of similar quality do the exchange rate and don't even count shipping and as far as I have found you would be spending 700+ for a similar quality hood... You guy's really don't know what you are talking about... (some of you do most don't)

MIDNFauciUSN 01-06-05 09:40 PM

scathcart (no offense, I just read one of your posts) and everyone else... i dont think it is that fc owners are cheap, though they might be... its just that society is making the (very) limited, if any, CF skills that everyone has, justify their high prices.

i realize that it takes r&d to get it started... but why not use the first few hoods to cover the cost of it, (R&D)... then start charging according to the actual cost of the hood, and man hours...

do doctors REALLY NEED to be paid 200 dollars an hour? no, not really, but they save peoples' lives... I dont see many CF hoods saving peoples' lives.

just because someone is the only one to do something at a cerain point, that doesnt make it ok to gouge prices does it?? does society make it seem reasonable to make the RX7's hoods more expensive than a civic's?


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