Electric Water Pump
So, I have searched, and I have found many posts that discuss doing it, but I haven't found any that comment on it after completion. Many argue about whether it has enough flow once in a pressurized system. Does anyone have actual knowledge of one that will work on the FC and have enough flow for a turbocharged car that gets a lot of autocross time and runs in the hills?
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I remember seeing a very old .jpg of an ad that was for an electric water pump. I cannot remember who made it, but I doubt they still do. I don't know if the benefits outweigh the costs.
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There are plenty of electric water pumps available and even an adapter specifically for the 13b for the plumbing. Finding them is not a problem. The concern is that the flow rates are listed as free flow and there have been concerns about the flow once in a pressurized system. I am just looking for information from anyone who has done it or seen it completed so I know if their is enough flow once in a pressurized system.
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They seem to work fine on 12As, 13Bs and 20Bs. Many people run them, but most often in a track only car. There just isn't a need for such a thing on a street car.
Obviously, electric water pumps are designed to operate in a pressurized system. If you think about it, from the pump's point of view, outlet pressure doesn't matter if inlet pressure is already higher. |
Exactly! I was just about to add that when it is in a closed system, I wouldn't call it a pump any more, it is more of a circulator. It doesn't matter what the pressure in the system is, it still sees the same differential pressure!
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I was just talking to my buddy tonight, VW's have these stock as a secondary water pump. I'm thinking about doing this.
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Originally Posted by incubuseva
(Post 9396008)
I was just talking to my buddy tonight, VW's have these stock as a secondary water pump. I'm thinking about doing this.
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I've seen that pump on a VR6 I Haltech'ed. That engine would overheat at the drop of a hat, so it's no wonder they need a secondary water pump...
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
(Post 9396430)
I've seen that pump on a VR6 I Haltech'ed. That engine would overheat at the drop of a hat, so it's no wonder they need a secondary water pump...
Do you think if I hooked it up with the 2nd speed on a taurus e-fan for track it would work well? Only con I can think of is draining the battery. |
Here's the nicest adapter I've found.
http://www.meziere.com/images/product/large/WP91.jpg http://www.meziere.com/ps-1300-1266-wp91.aspx# Once you have this part you would have many choices of universal eWaterPumps to use, you just need to figure out how much flow you need. I don't have a number for you though, but I bet if you called meziere they would have an application engineer that could help you out. You would then need to use either an inline thermostat or a digital controller - http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product The controller would not pose an obstruction to flow, but is costly. I suppose...A cheaper option would be to use the stock waterpump housing and thermostat. Then remove the guts from a stock water pump and put a pipe plug where the shaft was to use as a coverplate for the gaping hole where the pump once was. Then use an inline eWaterpump. Still need to talk to someone to get the GPMs required. |
Oh. I've never looked at them closely. I just assumed that they made some that would fit inside your hose. I was thinking that I could splice the upper left side rad hose, then put it inline right there.
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http://www.eastcoastparts.com/assets/images/wp202.JPG
http://www.eastcoastparts.com/assets/images/wp102.JPG http://www.eastcoastparts.com/html/water_pump.html Just thought I'd ad this. looks like it's only for S4 wp housings, and it's kinda expensive (I've seen $400 i think?), but it's also less plumbing in the engine bay, and less possible points of failure. |
Originally Posted by incubuseva
(Post 9396501)
That's exactly what he has. Only turbo'd.
Do you think if I hooked it up with the 2nd speed on a taurus e-fan for track it would work well? Only con I can think of is draining the battery. |
just in case anyone is still interested in this i saw this water pump on the PPRE Red Bull 4rotor FD....http://www.stewartcomponents.net/Mer...Code=ElectPump
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Originally Posted by incubuseva
(Post 9396501)
That's exactly what he has. Only turbo'd.
Do you think if I hooked it up with the 2nd speed on a taurus e-fan for track it would work well? Only con I can think of is draining the battery. As Mr. Cake noted, VRs (most VW's actually) are prone to running hot - VW has a long tradition of oil-cooled engines, going back to the original Beetle. The 6L sump, high oil temps, and requirement for 10/30 Mobil1 or better say the tradition was alive and well when my VR was made, at least. |
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