easiest and most sufficient way of doing the infamous ATF trick?
 

plan on doin the tricked out trick on ma 87 and reading all these different methods u people go about doing this trick.....just wanted to know the simplest way to do and what steps to take when performing this tricked out trick...and kinda help is appreciated

For EGI there is no "simple" and "easy" way. You have to:
1) take off wires and EGI fuse
2) unplug the lower sparkplugs (to keep the ATF in)
3) squirt 2-3 times ATF into the housing
4) bump starter for 0,5 sec
5) repeat (3)-(4) a few times (dont put any more than 100c or so ATF)
6) let car sit for 8-10 hours
7) bump starter again a couple fo times
8) repeat (6)-(7) a couple times (total time >24h)
9) try to remove as much ATF as possible with syringe or by bumping the starter
10) replace wires, plugs, fuse
11) start engine, let it idle for 10 min until it stops smoking
12) go for a rough ride for a couple of minutes
13) kill engine, change plugs
14) thrash car for 5-10 min (redlines)
15) you are set!!

What kind of "squirts" are these? I have seen ATF come in quart bottles, so how much of a quart is the most you should use? Thanks.

:) You really can't put too much in.. I've put a full 16 oz bottle of MMO (Marvel's Mystery Oil) in my engine before. I used a lil oil pumpy thing, with a vacuum hose attached to get it in the hole. Make SURE everything is out of the spark plug hole before you bump the starter, or it WILL chop it off. Better still, turn the crack one full turn by hand (it's pretty easy, since there's no compression with plugs out). Get a wrench on the alt. pulley nut and turn it. Make sure to turn it so that the fan turns the right way (sucking air thru the radiator)--that way, your engine is turning the right way, and won't blow the atf out each rev.

-Tesla

Whats this ATF stuff and where can in get it? Would anyone take pictures the next time they do this? I learn best from pictures and wouldnt mind trying it on my rx7.

-Daryl

ATF=Automatic Transmission Fluid, might want to do a search, but it cleans the carbon out of your engine. No pictures neccesary if you can find the spark plugs & EGI fuses.

Cool, thanks

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My car dosent have enough miles to perform the ATF trick, but Im wondering, how does takin the bottom plugs help the fluid from not pourin out? It seems that the lower plugs would be the "drain plugs", and are those plugs the trail or leads?And do you squirt the ATF in both plug holes?

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Lower holes in order for more ATF to remain IN the engine (you can do it with the leading holes, but too much will pour out).

In both plug holes ? Yeah, if you want to do both rotors...:rolleyes:

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What do you mean your car doesn't have enough miles to perform this? Any mileage will produce carbon build-up. Some ppl on the forum do this twice a year. Can't hurt to do it.

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The rotors spin so that they pass the upper, then lower plugs...in that order. Putting it in the lower plugs keeps more in when you turn it.

Question: If it passes the upper (trailing) plugs first, and lower (leading) plugs second...isn't that odd? I alway assumed they spark leading, then trailing.. But now that seems backwards.

-Tesla

Leading trialing
 

I assumed that leading refered to the face of the rotor that the spark was igniting.

the rotor passes the trialing plug first, then the leading, then they go off, with the leading plug causing combustion against the leading face of the rotor, and the trailing plug causing combustion in the trailing area, which is why it's so difficult to drive with only your trailing plugs firing.

Not that I have any specifc knowledge of why they were named this way, justs my guess.

Re: Leading trialing
 

Ahh..makes good sense.. I just assumed that leading fired first (which it still may....but not the way I imagined it), until I got to thinking about how they are positioned.

-Tesla