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StarionX 01-24-03 12:29 PM

Does this sound like a stupid idea?
 
I am having amazing problems trying to start the car. I think it's extremely flooded. I was thinking about calling the CAA, getting them to lift the car by the front wheels, then try to clutch start the car while he is towing me (slowly of course).
I mean it would be the same as a rope tow start, or a 'bump' start. What I imagine I would have to do, is that once the car does fire up, to quickly stick it in neutral and avoid any damage to the drivetrain, as I would still be being towed.

Good or bad?

saltlakebay 01-24-03 12:40 PM

Hmm.. are they gonna charge you a lot? Cant you just get some buddies to push ya?

I'm assuming you already tried the EFI fuse pull and cranking it over trick right?

Icemark 01-24-03 12:42 PM

well its very tough on any Cats you might still have, but other than that it actually is a prefered method of starting a flooded car.

StarionX 01-24-03 12:44 PM


Originally posted by saltlakebay
Hmm.. are they gonna charge you a lot? Cant you just get some buddies to push ya?

I'm assuming you already tried the fuse pull and crank tick right?

For you Americans, CAA is your AAA, so they won't charge me.
I have no friends who can help (hell, I have no friends).
I've tried replacing battery, using the fuel cut switch. It cranks, but won't start. It was fine Monday, but I had problems with the battery, and I tried MANY times to start it, so that's why I think its' really flooded.

StarionX 01-24-03 12:48 PM


Originally posted by Icemark
well its very tough on any Cats you might still have, but other than that it actually is a prefered method of starting a flooded car.
Precat has been gutted, main cat... probably needs to be gutted as well ;) .
Ok, that sounds good. One more thing. Is it best to leave it it gear when being towed, and let it start on it's own, or is it best to leave it in neutral, then pop the clutch?

Thanks. :)

Amur_ 01-24-03 12:52 PM

blkrx7 just did a write-up on this in the Canadian Forum. 'Member?

Gonna have to change your handle to Buttercup if this keeps up, y'know. ;)

Make sure it's flooded - yank a plug. Is it covered in gas? Give it a sniff, too.

And the tow-truck guy may not be too crazy about the idea - he may be worried that you'll fuck up and hit his truck...

StarionX 01-24-03 01:01 PM


Originally posted by Amur_
blkrx7 just did a write-up on this in the Canadian Forum. 'Member?

Gonna have to change your handle to Buttercup if this keeps up, y'know. ;)

Make sure it's flooded - yank a plug. Is it covered in gas? Give it a sniff, too.

And the tow-truck guy may not be too crazy about the idea - he may be worried that you'll fuck up and hit his truck...

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :p:

Yes he did, but it didn't cover this. As for hitting the Tow-truck... maybe I didn't make myself clear. :confused:
I'd actually get him to hitch the car up, as if he was going to tow me. Since the car would be clamped up, there is no way I would hit him. Make sense?

Amur_ 01-24-03 01:19 PM

The arm. Right.

I guess your cars get towed a lot more often mine, so you'd know these things.

:p:

StarionX 01-24-03 01:32 PM


Originally posted by Amur_
The arm. Right.

I guess your cars get towed a lot more often mine, so you'd know these things.

:p:

I swear I'm going to hunt you down and beat you around the head and neck with a broken bottle.
:D

And please don't show that picture of 'Buttercup' again... I don't feel like :puke: again. ;)

CarmonColvin 01-24-03 02:21 PM

I have pull started a car many times. A few years ago I had an '87 T2 with a low compression motor. The only way it would start when cold was by pulling it. I did not have a big hill to let it roll down so I would hook up a 20ft tow rope to the frame of my wife's Eclipse (this was before I owned a truck) and the other end of the rope to the front tow hook of the RX. My wife would pull me down the block (about 100 yards?) at around 15 mph while I had the RX in first gear with the ignition on. It would slowly spudder to life and begin to idle enough to stop the cars and unhook them. As long as the car was near operating temperature it would start back up.

As a last resort it is the BEST method to unflood a motor. And don't tell me it was because my starter was weak. I tried different starters and new batteries and the injectors had been cleaned. The car just did not have enough compression at idle when cold to run.

I also used the same technique on a buddies FD. The car had sat for about 4 months with out running (because of some maintenance and money issues). Once the turbo's were fixed and everything was back together we spent days trying to get the car to start. We tried ATF, new plugs, multiple batteries, etc. etc. Nothing would get the motor to fire. We pulled it about 100 ft. behind a truck and the car ran fine for months after that.

StarionX 01-24-03 02:35 PM

Ok. Thanks. :)

Amur_ 01-24-03 02:36 PM


Originally posted by StarionX


I swear I'm going to hunt you down and beat you around the head and neck with a broken bottle.
:D

How about if you just get your butt to the Ottawa meet and I'll buy you a beer or 3? :)


And please don't show that picture of 'Buttercup' again... I don't feel like :puke: again. ;)
That makes two of us. :D

StarionX 01-24-03 03:01 PM


Originally posted by Amur_

How about if you just get your butt to the Ottawa meet and I'll buy you a beer or 3?

Sounds good, but you better make it Mountain Dew, I don't drink... oh my god, maybe I am a Buttercup :rofl:

Amur_ 01-24-03 03:46 PM

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