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lastphaseofthis 02-14-06 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by JKM
I would agree with the statements above. If it's a nice vert, you can sell it for a LOT of money, I regularly see them for 7 to 8 thousand, mainly because even though they are 15 years old they still look sweet. Then take that 7 to 8 thousand, but a T2, and repair/mod the hell out of it.

7000 GRAND for a turbo II then have to repair/mod it, very unlikely, most 7 to 8 grand tIIs are already pretty non-stock. i would sell the vert(maybe i want to buy one right now) and buy two rx7s :d or why not 3?

staticguitar313 02-14-06 10:49 PM

Verts have a pretty stiff chassis due to the amount of bracing they added for them, a guy on the forum was doing a build-up from scratch, and he had good pictures of the 'vert shell and the extra bracing involved, i should add some of this to my car, as it is no longer a coupe and not quite a 'vert, its a targa FC, and it does flex. It'd be nice to see somone make a proper removable hardtop for the 'vert. From what i understand no one does, although the market for it is there. It would save a bunch of weight. meh i dunno its not something i'll even have to worry about i guess, i have the best and worst of both worlds.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/925...ure91487ow.jpg

-Jared

Icemark 02-14-06 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by 12RotorMonster
Possibly... but the weight would really depend on the material used to make it. If you were to get one made of steel or aluminum (possibly even fiberglass)...then yes i'd prob be heavier.

However, If you were to build the hardtop out of carbon fiber and the rear window out of Lexan, it would weigh much less. You also have to remember, by making it a removable hard top you get rid of the soft top's motor and clear up space on the center console for something else.
A CF top like that would have a total weight of about 15 or 20 lbs. The soft top, including both sections, motor and rear window easily weighs almost 40 lbs (maybe even more)

Nothing like bringing back a 2 year old dead thread eh???

And why would you want a Lexan rear window??? Verts have glass rear windows with defroster grids... something that you can't do with a lame material like lexan.

12RotorMonster 02-14-06 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark
Nothing like bringing back a 2 year old dead thread eh???

Who said it was dead?......I prefer 'dormant';)


Originally Posted by Icemark
And why would you want a Lexan rear window??? Verts have glass rear windows with defroster grids... something that you can't do with a lame material like lexan.

lexan= less weight (about 2-3lbs and that'd be for a larger than stock window=less blind spot when top is on and it is also much more shatter resistant than glass) --> glass=heavy (about 5-6lbs, tho you're right it does have the defroster for people that need that)

I guess it'd really be up to preference in the end though...but my Turbovert is putting about 330hp to the ground and though it's fast, I'd still like it to be much lighter.

Also, In my case, I live in Texas...It barely ever gets cold enough here that I need the defroster and when it does get that cold, I usually don't drive the vert. That's when having two cars comes in handy. When it's nice out I drive the Rex (fun), when it's not so nice I drive the Silverado(practical) :)

12RotorMonster 02-14-06 11:50 PM

btw, staticguitar, Love the ride!!....Where did you get those doors?

staticguitar313 02-15-06 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by 12RotorMonster
btw, staticguitar, Love the ride!!....Where did you get those doors?

the easter bunny . . . they came on the car, they are just GTO hood scoops glassed in i guess. they wont be missed when i replace the doors.

iSP33D-for-J3SUS 02-15-06 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by staticguitar313
Verts have a pretty stiff chassis due to the amount of bracing they added for them, a guy on the forum was doing a build-up from scratch, and he had good pictures of the 'vert shell and the extra bracing involved, i should add some of this to my car, as it is no longer a coupe and not quite a 'vert, its a targa FC, and it does flex. It'd be nice to see somone make a proper removable hardtop for the 'vert. From what i understand no one does, although the market for it is there. It would save a bunch of weight. meh i dunno its not something i'll even have to worry about i guess, i have the best and worst of both worlds.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/925...ure91487ow.jpg

-Jared

That targa mod is HOT!!

(Nice wheels too)

iSP33D-for-J3SUS :bigthumb:

staticguitar313 02-15-06 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by iSP33D-for-J3SUS
That targa mod is HOT!!

(Nice wheels too)

iSP33D-for-J3SUS :bigthumb:

yeah the wheels are nice, but i hate cleaning them, and they do collect dirt quickly, these wheels are better and they are going back on when they get a freash finish and some new rubber>
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5144/hpim47345iw.jpg

sliding_fox 02-15-06 08:49 PM

staticguitar313, How'd ya do the Targa conversion? that's the one thing I'd love to have on my FC, (actually it was the only reason I was considering a Supra MKIII Turbo). what kind of cost/ labor is involved with it?

staticguitar313 02-15-06 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by sliding_fox
staticguitar313, How'd ya do the Targa conversion? that's the one thing I'd love to have on my FC, (actually it was the only reason I was considering a Supra MKIII Turbo). what kind of cost/ labor is involved with it?

itd cost more than than itd cost to get a great condition TII, let me put it that way, add to the fact that the coupes not meant to have the roof cut like that, my car flexes like hell even with the 3-point cage i have (i need to extend it into the front) i have a rare oddity, its rare for a reason, get a car that was meant to have a chopped top, b/c the work involved to do it right, will cost you a small fortune, and no mine isnt done right, its far from perfect., id rather have a sunroof or t-tops sometimes, oh wait i do have a sunroof on my '91, ^_^, its worth it to keep the sunroof if ya have it already.

alexdimen 02-15-06 09:25 PM

they also have a 3.9 rear end... swap in a 4.1 or 4.3 (if you can find one), just have to drop the rear subframe a bit.

body kits add weight...

12RotorMonster 02-18-06 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by alexdimen
body kits add weight...

that depends what type of body kit you're talking about......

If it is an add-on, like a spoiler, then yes it will add weight (the material it's made of will determine how much)
However, if it is a replacement part (like a new hood or fender) the weight can be drastically reduced depending what it's made of (ex. - steel hood=~50lbs---carbon fiber hood=~15lbs)

Tournapart 03-14-06 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Alex6969
the vert trunk wouldn't be big enough to hold a human body, whole or in pieces


I have a 12inch sub with the enclosure, a 300w amp, a tool box, a clothes bag for work, RX7 manual, windsheild washing fluid, oil, and a bunch of cluttered crap, it seems small, but damn i fit alot of shit in there, and i f you got really creative you could utilize the area behind the trunk where the spare tire goes

staticguitar313 03-14-06 01:49 PM

I thought about making a vert hardtop shell, itd be cool, i'm not talking about glassing the soft top, but making a real, decent looking top something kinda fastback looking, not mustang fastback, think '68 charger fastback lines


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