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Wont start in the AM without max throttle

Old 11-29-11, 09:02 PM
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Wont start in the AM without max throttle

Since it's been cold here in the bay (not near freezing, mind you, but cold for the SF bay area) in the mornings, I have not been able to start my car without activating the fuel cut by holding the throttle to the floor. Then most of the time, the AWS is not bringing the car up to around 3k RPM. Usually the engine starts quickly enough after using the throttle cut, but the idle quality and speed is low. If i give it some throttle after starting, it livens up a bit and goes through its "can I let off the choke now?" routine.

Any ideas as to why it's doing this? Only seems to happen when its particularly cold out.
Old 11-29-11, 09:28 PM
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i had a similar problem, but it would happen regardless of warm or cold weather, although cold made it worse. to solve this, i had the TPS and idle stop screw adjusted. (my throttle body has removed thermowax valve and is modded so cold startup was ROUGH)...now the problem is about 95% gone. it still happens maybe one out of 10 cold starts...
Old 11-30-11, 09:42 AM
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Thanks! I'll give that a shot.
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If I had to guess, I would say you have a bad thermo switch; it is located by the alternator.

I say this because I have had 2 FCs with a problem very similar to what you are describing and both times replacing the thermo switch fixed the problem. I also live in the bay area.
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Sweet! If the TPS adjustment doesn't work, that will be next. I cant drive the car right now though, the hatch glass broke!!! Anyone know if the FC has a history of the window breaking on its own from old age? I was warming up the engine and it just spiderwebbed. I didnt see everything that happened cause i was in the seat but I'm thinking someone may have thrown something or shot it with a bb gun while i was warming up. ugh.
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No, the hatch glass is not prone to spontaneously breaking lol. Sorry to hear about that.
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WoW!! better watch your back!
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It's ok. I've had my tires slashed on more than one occasion.
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^ thats not cool man. sorry to hear that, you should get it sorted out. +1 on thermoswitch
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