center iron vent nipple?
I'm redoing my crankcase venting for the track... and I was wondering where does the nipple at the base of the oil fill neck actually go?
pictures would be nice :) Thanks |
take that and the one from the center iron and put it to a vented catch can.
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
(Post 11398801)
take that and the one from the center iron and put it to a vented catch can.
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goes into the upper end of the center iron casting.
similar to the pickup tube vent but more inside the engine towards the top. you can't see where it goes without cutting an iron apart. |
so do track turbo FCs not have the same problems FDs have because they have this vent? or is the vent not big enough?
everyone that tracks FDs seems to fill up catch cans like crazy if they're not vented through both the oil fill and the secondary turbo oil drain... |
mainly the issue is running the catch can below your nipple level, it allows gravity carry the oil down into the catch can versus just the vapors.
rotaries in general, especially turbo rotaries generate a fair amount of crankcase vapors. 1) tee both the filler neck and center iron nipples to a single line leading to the catch can 2) have the catch can as high as you can mount it without any dips in the line 3) drain it regularly oil viscosity also plays a large role in the crankcase vapors, thicker oils will not vaporize as easily as thinner weight oils. 15W-40 and 20W-50 are recommended if you have more than average blowby. you really can't eliminate blowby in turbo cases. some of my bridged turbo engines fill up the cans quickly so i recommended thicker oils and it slowed considerably. |
Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
(Post 11398863)
mainly the issue is running the catch can below your nipple level, it allows gravity carry the oil down into the catch can versus just the vapors.
rotaries in general, especially turbo rotaries generate a fair amount of crankcase vapors. 1) tee both the filler neck and center iron nipples to a single line leading to the catch can 2) have the catch can as high as you can mount it without any dips in the line 3) drain it regularly oil viscosity also plays a large role in the crankcase vapors, thicker oils will not vaporize as easily as thinner weight oils. 15W-40 and 20W-50 are recommended if you have more than average blowby. you really can't eliminate blowby in turbo cases. some of my bridged turbo engines fill up the cans quickly so i recommended thicker oils and it slowed considerably. |
Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
(Post 11398863)
mainly the issue is running the catch can below your nipple level, it allows gravity carry the oil down into the catch can versus just the vapors.
rotaries in general, especially turbo rotaries generate a fair amount of crankcase vapors. 1) tee both the filler neck and center iron nipples to a single line leading to the catch can 2) have the catch can as high as you can mount it without any dips in the line 3) drain it regularly oil viscosity also plays a large role in the crankcase vapors, thicker oils will not vaporize as easily as thinner weight oils. 15W-40 and 20W-50 are recommended if you have more than average blowby. you really can't eliminate blowby in turbo cases. some of my bridged turbo engines fill up the cans quickly so i recommended thicker oils and it slowed considerably. single turbo FDs vent the secondary turbo drain because it's on the opposite side of the engine so at least 1 of the vents can always breath. hopefully the internal vent on FCs will solve this, I'm just worried it's not big enough (FD's use -10AN vents...) I'll just run as is and see how it works out for now. |
if it's really that big of a problem for you then ditch the oil filler cap and install a -10 line to the catch can off a modified cap and cap the unused ports.
if you still have problems then you really have problems(excessive blowby not remedied by venting). Goopy performance sells the cap i mentioned btw. if you order it at least give me some credit through mention. ;) you can also consider an oil pan baffle to keep oil from the fill tube. if all of that doesn't fix it you have me baffled(pun intended!). |
Saw this thread with same question. I have a 93 rx7 and currently replacing seals and gaskets. Saw this nipple on the center iron at the top near the filler neck tube blocked off. So this is for for venting the air pressure built up in the oil pan? Do FD's have this nipple or only FC's? Ive been looking through the 93 FSM and cant find what it originally hooked up to it. If 93's and up rx7's dont have this, then looks like someone in the past used an center iron from an older generation rx7?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...08ebce1b66.jpg |
So looks like I do have a center Iron from a 93 and up as should since I have a 93 rx7. I really dont want to start another thread in the FD section, hoping someone here can answer for me. So as my previous post stated, what does the nipple on the center iron near the filler neck go to on an FD?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9c5d196266.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...086c9a8d7b.jpg |
Haha answered my own questions. I pulled up the emissions section of the S5 FC car and this is what it showed, goes to charcoal canister. So looks like for an FD that nipple doesnt go to anything and is just blocked off.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...d536680cd.jpeg |
Originally Posted by EpyonFD
(Post 12348237)
Haha answered my own questions. I pulled up the emissions section of the S5 FC car and this is what it showed, goes to charcoal canister. So looks like for an FD that nipple doesnt go to anything and is just blocked off.
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