Can anyone drift well with their 7 ?
 

plz share ur experience on this.

Re: Can anyone drift well with their 7 ?
 

Um... is this a trick question.....??? :rolleyes:

You should be asking if anyone can't drift well in thier RX-7 ;)

I can drift well in my RX-7, thank you.

Oh yeah. I don't have that much experience drifting, but the cars are well suited to. Theres also very few places to do it here, dre_2000 knows that.

I have a LSD, so when I try to drift, I am usually very successful! Except for today when I was showing off to a 'Stang GT I just smoked and almost died! Pratice makes better!

Alot of times i try (im still learning) I end up fish tailing all over into oncoming lanes of traffic...But im getting better.

-Daryl

ya, 7's are built for corning so they drift very well, I am preatty good, but still have a hard time every once and a while. remenber I am talking about drifting, not power sliding.

Try going to an empty parking lot late at night and pratice. But watch out, cops get mad about that! Trust me, I found out the hard way!

My NA i can get to drift just a little. I need a lot more power to make a long drift. Unless Im on a gravel road then watch out, 16 years of driving(drifting) Texas back country dirt roads :D I was drifting on them when drifting wasnt concidered a sport. And if anyone says drifting a 72 Ford LTD doesnt take talent hasnt driven one. yes that was unfourtunatly my first car.

I drift in my cars all the time when going on the curve in the dirt road that goes to the garage/barn. there is no more grass left ;> Escort, RX-7's, 750 Honda, 626, even my dad's cars.

All I do right now is drift because every road is covered in snow.

I just learned how to string two drift turns together without gaining traction on a S-Turn in a back road. Purists will say that true drifters must be able to string several turns together without gaining traction, sometimes 6 or 7 turns back to back. I'm am pretty happy I finally learned how to do it, I would always do the first drift then either my tires could get traction or I would spin out. The best place to learn a basic drift is a big parking lot at night and preferably while its raining or just after so your tires don't squeal so loud.

gee wally. i wish i could drift. i always almost kill myself after i spin off on ramps or onto oncoming traffic.

Well you shouldn't do it in traffic! Like I said, practice in a parking lot.

I agree. Parking lots rule. It is almost as if the Rx7's were designed for drifting. If you are having difficulty it is the driver. not the car. Just about everyone in this forum learned to drift in a big parking lot, including myself. Follow their advice. Most importantly when drifting : ACT RESPONSIBLE AND BE SAFE!!!!!!!!!

I find my FC a total pain in the ass to drift.&nbsp The balanced chassis and low polar moment make for a really twitchy system when trying to drift.&nbsp The turbo non-linear power delivery just makes things worse.

Now, my Hachi (even stock) is super easy to drift, due to it's linear power band and lightness! :D




-Ted

Hachi is short for hachi rokyu? I would have thought that a nonlinear powerband would only really mess up the exit of a drift, because your rpms are fairly constant during entry and the actual drift. If they aren't, that just means you didn't enter at maximum speed, right?

Yep, Hachi Roku or AE86. :)

Drifting has a LOT to do with throttle steering.&nbsp If the power band is not linear, it just makes it a lot hard to throttle steer...



-Ted

Not a lot of things come close to the saticfaction of a smooth clean drift. On the race track you're not going fast enough if you're not drifting or sliding through each corner. I'm very lucky to have the opprotunity to race. Guys pratice in parking lots and take it easy on the street. If you want the ultimate thrill you can't beat an organized race. Join the SCCA. check it out at [url]www.scca.com

that is just INTENSELY unfair you own an FC AND an AE86 >=P I can't wait to move to Japan....

There are LOTS of corners where drifting is "not" the fastest way through. :p: But to each, his own :D

Yeah, but I'm still not satisfied...
I think the ultimate trio would be to add the S13 SR20DET, which I'm working on trying to find right now! :D



-Ted

I nearly bought an S13 200SX Turbo when I couldn't find an RX-7 I was happy with. There's quite a few of them over here, but the earlier CA18-DET version is more common than the SR20-DET and cheaper. Personally I think these are a a par with the 7 for performance, handling and looks, but I really wanted a rotary!

I think the next question should be:

How many of you deliver Tofu in the wee hours of the morning?

Ted, I fully expect you to respond "Me! Me!"

:p:

Man the countless times I drifted. Very hard in the rain for me. As soon as im on the highway turning onto another highway doing max of 80 I will start to drift slightly. Its so fun because the car is so predictable. I can control how much angle of the drift I was merely by using throtle and steering. But I have accedently got sideways once and did the most awsome drift ever. It was in the street. I was coming to this T section to turn left but going to fast in third gear. I turned in sharp but I saw this car pull out of the side road and startled me. In a panic I shuved the steering whell hard and was in a 45 degree angle full throttle in third.. Turned really sharp and ended up in the middle lane of the two. Eased the steering wheel back and the car got traction right when I was perfectly streight between the two roads. Weeee.

I try to drift, but there are no good places around here to do it. I have a backroad that I go to often that would be ideal, and is usually deserted late at night, but I'm not willing to risk it.

Drifting in the FC is fun, but drifting in the WRX feels better. The WRX has more grip though, so you have to drive it faster to get it to slide.

I tried driving the FC around corners at speeds like I do in the WRX and I spun out. I was in one of my "safe" zones though, so I merely spun off into some grass. I'm very careful about where I do stuff like this.

Power oversteer != drifting

You don't need a lot of power to drift, you just need to know how to balance the weight and momentum of the car. You can pull long drifts in underpowered cars without smoking the tires off.

hmm
Having driven either a: understeering FWD cars (Mercury Topaz, etc)
or B: a twitchy-spin-out-with-no-warning MR car (fiero)
I haven't done much drifting...
Once I get the FC, though....
Local walmart/cdn tire/15 other stores have a HUGE parking lot that is deserted late at night.....

Might be able to have some fun.

My first car was an '84 Toyota Corolla (RWD). I really learned to throw that thing around corners. It did nice brakestands too!

The 2nd gen with LSD can really break the rear tires loose.... sometimes too loose. Get rear toe eliminator bushings and the car is much more predicatible and doesn't snap loose on you. Much easier to drive with the eliminator bushings when driving at the limit.

In the rain an FC with LSD will get crazy silly loose and sometimes a little dangerous.

Be careful and practice. Don't endanger others and know your limits. Adrenaline running in the veins can affect driving.....

GNX7

Good advice, and I believe I can add to that.

If you feel like you're going fast, you're probably just driving recklessly. Slow down and work up to it, if the car is being jerked around a lot you're out driving your limits. Smooth car control is key.

Man, trying to drift in a FWD car is hard as shit but fun. I was doing it with my friend's old Integra. You have to use the e-brake alot, and its a challenge to time everything right.

To drift in a FWD car with any degree of success it seems mandatory to use the e-brake. Left foot braking helps a bit too.

Even more fun is trying to get a 4wd (not awd) vehicle to drift. The lask of a center diff makes it hard, it usually just wants to plow. But in the snow and on dirt/gravel roads, it's a blast. I figured out how to LFB my 87 Toyota pickup here, but that doesn't really count since I have an auto tranny.

Ren

BTW, the car I did my best drift in was my 86 944 turbo. I was coming down the onramp from one freeway to another, at over 90, and the ass end just worked its way out there, unhurriedly. Scared the shit out of my frined who was riding shotgun, but afterwards, he was like, "hell yeah!"

Ren

I did my fair share of screwing around in a 4wd Toyota Hilux (Tacoma) over in Saudi Arabia. Not only is it fun to drift around but there's lots of shit to jump over. :p:

i can drift it!

What is the difference between Power Slideing and Drifting?

Powersliding is just like gunning it exit the corner causing hte backend to swerve. Drifting is more like a technique going through and entering a turn. I am going to describe it in details, but you have to be going pretty fast to drift. Need a lot of hp to power slide

Power makes it easier, but it's not needed. Understanding about weight transfer is what you need. Ever see stock kei cars drift? They have a smidgen over 60hp. The AE86 isn't exactly a beast when it comes to power either.

jerk_racer@hotmail.com

have any of you rolled your cars trying to drift? I haven't pushed my car much but the last time I was in a lot just having fun and burning rubber, the amoutn of body roll really surprised me.

basically power sliding is using the cars HP to slide around the corners, but drifitng is using the cars weight to slide it around?

I do pretty well in either of my 7's, but the GSL-SE is definately easier to drift.

I can see this thread quickly shifting to a conversation about Initial D :)

sounds about right... all the good drifters i've seen will be sliding even before they enter the corner... pitch the car sideways and balance the drift angle to turning ratio with countersteering or tapping the brake or gas.

i was able to do it once in my FB, on snow... it was beautiful :D the steering is too sloppy for me to feel comfortable trying it at speeds high enough to slide like that on dry pavement. but i was going to a rest stop, going about 35-40mph on the off-ramp, threw it sideways for about 300 feet, made it around a right turn, over-countersteered at the end and the back end went around the other way and I went around a left turn, but i couldn't gather it up again and it spun the other way as I was trying to slide neatly into a parking space. :D Oh well, gotta get more practice I guess... just needs to snow more :D

how tall are you people who drift FC's? i'm 6'5 and i have to lean back so far when driving one that my arms are straight out when holding the wheel... not very easy to drive that way.