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Team Mischief 08-29-07 11:20 AM

Aaron,

You're actually pretty close to me, I live in the GTA. Do you go out to any of the CSCS event's at Cayuga and/or Grand Bend?

I help out with these sport compact events running the drift competition, but there is track and drag racing as well. Have you been out to any of the events?

By the way, if you're looking for CAD software, Solidworks is probably your best bet, it's pretty easy to learn on your own. It's what I've learned to use and with the finite element analysis and other piggy back programs, it's truely a valuable tool.

Beautiful build, it's the kind that you never see on the Nissan forums out here because everyone is too cheap or to impatient to do the job right.

-Bob

BTW: I think you just hooked me on a new paint. Did you get metal cast from Canadian Tire?

Aaron Cake 08-29-07 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by 88rxn/a (Post 7282982)
WOW!!
67 HP to the WHEELS and you havent touched the timing yet....
are you using the preset timing that came on your standalone with your bridgeport? or did you load it off here somewhere?

The timing map was one that I just pulled out of thin air one night. It's fairly conservative with a maximum advance of about 27 degrees under light load and a max advance of 10 degrees under boost. Certainly the car could use more timing in all cases but it's running VERY well as is so I see no reason to change it. Gets good mileage, makes plenty of power, etc.

I start all my maps by sitting down in front of the TV, opening up the software (in the case of the Microtech I have to bring the TV into the car since the only way to edit the map is to be connected to the ECU :) ), then plugging in numbers based on previous experience. Very rarely do I start with someone else's "base" map unless I am really in a hurry.


Originally Posted by Team Mischief (Post 7283231)
Aaron,
You're actually pretty close to me, I live in the GTA. Do you go out to any of the CSCS event's at Cayuga and/or Grand Bend?

I was at MOTM a few weeks ago but in general I don't hang out with that "sport compact" crowd. I'm almost 10 years older then the average age of those people and I don't see the fun in modifying Honda Civics. :)

Actually I've never been to the track at Grand Bend and the first time I made it to Cayuga was MOTM. But I do try and get to Sparta when I can, which lately is not very often.


I help out with these sport compact events running the drift competition, but there is track and drag racing as well. Have you been out to any of the events?
Only MOTM.


By the way, if you're looking for CAD software, Solidworks is probably your best bet, it's pretty easy to learn on your own. It's what I've learned to use and with the finite element analysis and other piggy back programs, it's truly a valuable tool.
Thats's what I keep hearing. I've also taken a bit of a look at a few of the open source programs (one that starts with a "D" I think), but they were very hard to use. I have customers that use Solidworks so I've seen it in action.


Beautiful build, it's the kind that you never see on the Nissan forums out here because everyone is too cheap or to impatient to do the job right.
I've seen far too many backyard turbo 240SXs with Home Depot ABS intercooler piping to disagree. :)


BTW: I think you just hooked me on a new paint. Did you get metal cast from Canadian Tire?
Yep. Comes in red, blue, chrome, black chrome, green, purple and gold...Great stuff.

Team Mischief 08-29-07 01:05 PM

You would be surprised as to the age of some of the guys racing. The range is actually shifted to high 30's low 40's for the sport compact demographic. That being said, most of the people there are early to late 20's but still not so bad. Most of the drag racing players are older, 35-40's with some exceptions.

Yeah I forgot about Sparta, we're actually coming there this year as well. Should try to make it out :)

MOTM was a good turnout, I was there, but I didn't have much time to go around a take a look at some of the cars that showed up. I spend most of my day on the scaffolding at the center of the circuit track judging the drifters. :)

When I did get some time off, I took out a widebody FC on the circuit to tune out the suspension. Which it really needed.

All in all, I don't think there are nearly enough rotary guys drag racing in Ontario.. it's too bad to because they have such a strong drag racing heritage. That being said, I think you're will be a good example of how well you can build a rotary if you try.

TitosToy 08-29-07 03:37 PM


BTW: I think you just hooked me on a new paint. Did you get metal cast from Canadian Tire?


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 7283496)
Yep. Comes in red, blue, chrome, black chrome, green, purple and gold...Great stuff.


i just did mine in blue and chrome and it came out awesome. thanks for the recommendation

SASSER 08-30-07 12:57 PM

I said it before and I'll say it again...

Aaron's car is a mad beast.

Tina looks awesome Aaron.

Aaron Cake 08-30-07 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Team Mischief (Post 7283545)
You would be surprised as to the age of some of the guys racing. The range is actually shifted to high 30's low 40's for the sport compact demographic. That being said, most of the people there are early to late 20's but still not so bad. Most of the drag racing players are older, 35-40's with some exceptions.

That sounds promising. When are you planning to head out to Sparta?


MOTM was a good turnout, I was there, but I didn't have much time to go around a take a look at some of the cars that showed up. I spend most of my day on the scaffolding at the center of the circuit track judging the drifters. :)
It was OK. Honestly I was hoping for more but there were several competing events that day.

Team Mischief 08-30-07 10:10 PM

The 16th we're coming down. September of course. Shouldn't be that big of an event, but it's something to do.

Yeah, I thought the Mazdas had a good turnout. The drag racing wasn't bad but the amount of racers we had this year compared to last has been less for sure.

:)

Aaron Cake 08-31-07 09:35 AM

I'll try to make it out there for the 16th.

MmSadda 08-31-07 02:56 PM

Wow, Aaron!
That is SERIOUSLY impressive

evileagle 08-31-07 03:41 PM

I just read this thing, and wow, Aaron, nice work.

But... and I think I might be the first one to say this... All this work... and you're running a FRAM oil filter? :(

88rxn/a 08-31-07 04:42 PM

i like the phrase "you know you cant turbo charge a N/A" at the end.

Aaron Cake 09-01-07 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by evileagle (Post 7291552)
I just read this thing, and wow, Aaron, nice work.
But... and I think I might be the first one to say this... All this work... and you're running a FRAM oil filter? :(

I did that on purpose so people would have something to complain about. It's very doubtful that there's actually anything wrong with FRAM oil filters considering they are a very large OEM manufacturer.


Originally Posted by 88rxn/a (Post 7291798)
i like the phrase "you know you cant turbo charge a N/A" at the end.

Well, obviously it's true...I mean, it would be stupid to assume that the NA rotary could ever handle any amount of boost...Not 12 PSI from the stock turbo, and certainly not 13 PSI from a GT40R....;)

Loki101 09-02-07 11:25 AM

I just want to know if I can marry your car?

Aaron Cake 09-03-07 10:58 AM

I don't know how to reply to that.

88t2romad 09-03-07 06:04 PM

Aaron, beautiful car you have there. Good to see a lot of well thought out engineering.

Do you plan to paint the intercooler pipes? They really stand out in your engine bay(not that its a bad thing, just making a note)

capn 09-03-07 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 7293558)
I did that on purpose so people would have something to complain about. It's very doubtful that there's actually anything wrong with FRAM oil filters considering they are a very large OEM manufacturer.


http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

this study may change your mind.

Noel Caraballo 09-03-07 09:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1MryAt1dw8, hey aaron why does you turbo sound like its clipping the housing or something, doesnt sound good at all

evileagle 09-04-07 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by capn (Post 7298714)


Thanks for linking that, I was going to, but I had lost the link.

Aaron Cake 09-04-07 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by 88t2romad (Post 7298600)
Aaron, beautiful car you have there. Good to see a lot of well thought out engineering.
Do you plan to paint the intercooler pipes? They really stand out in your engine bay(not that its a bad thing, just making a note)

They are painted hardware-store "aluminum" right now.


Originally Posted by capn (Post 7298714)

I think I first read that 6-7 years ago, and I am just as skeptical about it as I am now. Honestly I don't intend to start a world vs. Fram war, because I really don't care. :) I buy whatever oil and filter is currently on sale. I grabbed the Fram because it was the cheapest filter that fit the remote adapter in that size, and it had the neat grippy black area which makes it easy to take on and off.

In reading the email from a concerned Frame engineer (if that's even true, because I could of course email someone claiming to be anyone that I want) I'm even more suspicious about the results because there are glaring inconsistencies. For example, the often maligned cardboard end caps. The cardboard is just there to hold the glue, which is the actual structural element. There is no advantage to using metal and in fact the glue will bond better to rough cardboard better then smooth metal. The lack of quality checking is also suspect since ISO corporations are subject to international standards and frequent inspections. And my factory Honda filters have rubber anti-drainback valves as well...

Not saying that page is inaccurate, but I'm critical of everything I read, regardless of the source. I've never heard of nor experienced any engine problems relating to Fram filters either.

But mainly, I bought it because I knew people would complain. :)


Originally Posted by Noel Caraballo (Post 7299045)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1MryAt1dw8, hey aaron why does you turbo sound like its clipping the housing or something, doesnt sound good at all

It's the sound from the ball bearings. All Garrett dual ball bearing turbos sound like this. Several years ago I was involved with a project to put a GT35R onto a Volkswagen VR6 and at first was quite disturbed by the noises the turbo made. At low shaft speeds the bearings really rattle but of course you can't generally hear it over the engine noise. There's also quite a bit of play in all the BB turbos from the factory as well.

Speaking of that video, the comments people are making really show the fact that the gene pool needs more chlorine. Based on the fact that they were received after the link was posted to this thread, I assume they come from people on this forum. The ignorance and hostility is astounding...Bunch of jealous kids. :)

demontwig 09-04-07 02:32 PM

lol I know, I read the comments on the vid and just chuckled to myself.

Nice build up by the way.

Noel Caraballo 09-04-07 05:20 PM

i just thought something was wrong with it, learn something new everyday

devil rotary 09-17-08 09:02 AM

NICE SETUIP:icon_tup:

Aaron Cake 09-17-08 10:04 AM

Yes, it is a nice setuip. ;)

R-X-R 11-16-12 11:27 PM

i shimmed my oil pressure regulator, does that affect what kind of oil feed restrictor i should use?

RotaryEvolution 11-17-12 12:22 AM

shim it back, turbo engines don't need more oil pressure. if you can't, you will need a smaller restrictor, making it more difficult to regulate the oil pressure the turbo sees more accurately.


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