BAER Slotted and Cross driled Rotors?
 

Anyone used these? I found them while searching on the net. Guess what, Autozone can get them for $240 for the fronts!! Sounds expensive right? Not really look up any other brand of upgraded rotors. Cheapest I found was powerslots at $200 for the front's through RACINGBEAT. Plus they are only Slotted not drilled....

Any input would be great, I am thinking of upgrading the front rotors on the Vert. I would still run stock in the rear. I think my car runs like a 70/30 brake bias setup so most is in the front anyways..
Let me know

Trevor

DO NOT get drilled rotors. They don't really offer any advantages over slotted (other than looks) and severely comprimise the integrity of the rotors. I have personally witnessed a 360 Modena (Brembo floating caliper brakes, basically the best money can buy) crack the rotors. If brembo can't keep them from cracking, then there is a problem with them.
I think your best bet are the Power Slot Cryo rotors (forgot the name). They aren't much more than the regular power slots and have increased life and decreased pad wear.

That's nuts. My dad and I have been running Slotted and Crossed on his AUTOX miata for several years now without any trouble, And we are rough on that thing..lol. Maybe it was the fact that the Ferrari has like 2.5 X the HP that my little Turbo Vert has..lol

Thanks for the response.

Yeah, there are many people that run them with no problems. I just don't see the point in spending more money on something that doesn't really perform better and has the possibility of breaking. If you are going to run drilled rotors, Baer is a good company. Most of the people that break them are running cheapo ebay ones.
And yes, the Ferrari was on a track, but it had only been on for 1 lap when it smoked the brakes.

Ouch. Yeah I am a little apprehensive. My car is rarely driven and it is going to be autocrossed this season. It was a way for me to dress it up for the local cruise in's, and also gain a little on the braking end. I am not all bout buying cheapo stuff and the BAer stuff was highly accliamed in the local SCCA literature. I am running 17"s, and will be ordering a set of 18" to use on the street, and then running the 17"s on the track, they both show a ton of the brakes...Thanks again. I may just stick it out with stock rotors.

Why are they called "upgrade" rotors?
Are they bigger? I doubt it, cause then they won't fit.
Are they thicker? I doubt it, cause then they won't fit.
Are they made of better materials? I doubt it.

So how can it be an upgrade?
Cause of the slots and holes?
Not necessarily...
There's reference material all over the place that claim otherwise - especially against drilled holes.

So, basically, they are replacement OEM brake rotors...


-Ted

With pretty holes and lines..... no wonder your post count is so high. It seems most of your posts are borderline pointless, with shades of negativity and sarcasm. The materials I have read state that it is unneeded to drill all the way throught the rotor that divots would have the same effect. In my personal experience the Drilled and slotted do cool faster then the Stock units. Does this make a huge difference to a person who drives the car daily and not on the race track? NO.. Thanks for your always pointless,sarcastic, useless interjections. Rarely are they pointed at me, but when you troll the for sale adds to tell a newbie to go to mazda to buy a T2 harness for $1200 instead of just moving on really shot you down a notch in my book. You used to post useful info back in like 2002. Hopefully you will get back to using your knowlage for good instead of evil.

the drilled rotors do not fair well on a daily driver car where there is a greater chance of the rotor getting wet after some heated braking.. That WILL make them crack. Best bet is slotted.

^ OMG that post made me not want to reply. He basically stated the truth. Here let me quote it for you.

So you rip the dood who posts the actual only correct info so far. Sounds intelligent.

Unless they are 400+$ a piece 2 piece rotors and or bigger as well there is no point in replacing them prematurely!

One piece OE and crap wannabe race replacements for the local ricers for 200$ is a joke.

I personally only like and will run drilled 2 piece rotors on upgraded applications. And stock vented on everything else. Why drilled? I think most of the NFO flying around on them is poorly contributed and based on cheap versions and or paired with crapy pads. Look at all race and high end cars around AMG, Mseries, Porsche, Z06, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Lotus, Bear high end parts, Willwood high end, SCCA cars, Lemanz, what do they all come with? Drilled rotors only!

Every race application item I have owned has drilled rotors never encounter any issues. All my race bikes street and dirt my karts and so on.

The car is not a daily driver. I have 2 kids, and a doberman...lol I will only be driving it occasionally and to autocross and go to local MRT meets. (Mazda Rotaries of Tennessee)
With the setup I have It will not be driven in the rain regardless..

BTW for those keeping Score

I didn't ask if Slotted/Drilled was a good idea.. I was leaning toward the brand name BAER in the post not to start a debate on slotted/drilled VS Stock....

I also own a sportbike that has STOCK Drilled rotors..

RETed is NOT right, they are not stock, stock DOES NOT have holes or slots do they? That was a stupid statement. YES they are stock Specs as far as thickness and size, YES. Do you want a cookie? They are direct fit replacements with an upgraded airflow/cooling design. Duh! that is why I said they were $240 and not the sum of $1250 for the larger set with calipers.

BEAR is one of the best brakeing components on the market. However they do offer a low end these days as you have found from tha parts store.

Which is exactly why I will not share any of my information in this post, and is why you don't see me posting very much anymore in general.

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Yeah, whatever. Since you obviously know everything already, then why bother posting in the first place? No need for any more trolls here.

Look fine, I'm the asshole. "any input" would have been great, Any input on whether anyone had any expereince with BAER not slotted/Drilled. I am not out here flexing my perverbial Internet muscles. Do any of you have BAER brakes on your cars? If so feel free to tell me, does your friend? Great! Anyways, keep kissing eachother's asses. You are right I really wonder sometimes why i bother even asking anything, I mean as you said I know everything. I think I do it so Cock Loaves can post something Blatently Stupid "they are Stock" and the rest of the sheep will rally around them. This is why i try to steer clear of the 2nd gen forum, the 1st gen bunch stays to the topic and really tries to help. Too bad i don't own any 1st gen cars right now. Forget it I will rely on Consumer reports and perhaps try the CBR forum they also try to stick to the topic at hand.

For the sheep- Here is my Title and first semi-sentence

"BAER Slotted and Cross driled Rotors?

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Anyone used these?"

i didn't see anywhere in there "should I use slotted and drilled?", maybe I'm reading my question wrong. NOPE. Get bent.

i always was lead to believe that slotted rotors reduced/stopped brake fade or glaze, and drilled rotors prevented gassing. IMO ppl that say drilled rotors will crack are ignorant, like people that claim all rotaries are just timebombs... If ther was any truth then why do most preformance supercars run drilled rotors? Its good enough for a supercar but not good for a cheap sportscar with 1/4 the power and in most cases lighter?? HAHA THATS TRULY IS RETARDED.

IMO i would get the powerslot rotors, they look nice, have a good lifespan, and just as good if not better braking potential then oem. If your deadset on drilled/slotted then pay the extra money and get a quality brand (i dont know which, maybe brembo?) If you buy a cheap product then dont complain about cracked rotors.

Okay, if that's your personal bullshit, no wonder you can't take my replies.
That's right - I called it BULLSHIT for a reason.

Do you have numbers and FACTS to prove your "personal experience"?
Do you have temp paint showing the difference in temps?
Do you have the IR gun readings to prove your "personal experience"?

Yeah, I thought not.

Oh BTW, you're now on my ignore list since you didn't want my input in the first place.

Good luck with your upgrade, cooler-running, drilled and slotted rotors.


-Ted

I myself like the drilled rotors. Would i use these on the track? probably not. would i be making dead stops from 100+ MPH? probably not. As far as I'm concerned any of the three would be a good choice (Brembo, Willwood, and Baer) They offer a quality product, with some sort of warranty, and on top of that, they look good.

As far as the negativity on this thread goes, I thought this site was here to help people not bring them down for their opinions or try and prove your right all the time. The comments here sound like some of the douce bag mustang owners I've talked to, who think they know everything. The thing is, you don't. And until there is a test between stock and slotted no one will know. No doubt RETed knows what he's talking about, I refer to his site almost daily for questions or info that I need.

what i find funny is baer on their website answers this question http://baer.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/0...56944400031749 so if your gonna buy brakes from them and trust their product why not trust what they have to say
i hope this helps somebody out in deciding what kind of breaks to "upgrade" with but i stop just fine with my little wimpy single pistons brakes

I personally dont like slotted? I cant say much as Ive never tried them except for the fact they are on my bike. The slots just look like they would rip the hell out of brake pads but thats just the way I see them?

coz supercar owners can afford new roters when they crack?

So iz Mazdatrix ignorant or sells cheap roters?
http://www.mazdatrix.com/j-drill.htm

Cool link dood. It sez drilled Baer breaks can crack from stress risers. So then is Baer ignorant or sells cheap roters?

You are correct.
It's a proven fact that slotted rotors decrease brake pad life.
The slots "wipe" the brake pads (versus a non-slotted rotor), and while this might "clean" the brake pad, this also diminishes brake pad life.

If you're calling less-brake-pad-life an "upgrade", and I guess you're correct in saying it's a "performance upgrade" to keep switching brake pads more often!


-Ted

Wow
 

d00ds really people come here for NFO on their Fc and FD and shit, and all you do is sound like whiners, like somehow your ability to answer any question without sarcasm has long since left you. I am new here I understand but to me you sound like a bunch of babies trying to prove something (not all just some). I don't see how anyone can sort out real information that will be usefull to anyone with all the pissing and moaning about everyone elses posts. If you need a spot for complainging maybe you should do it on the Midol website. Since now I am far more confused about slotted, crossdrilled and OEM rotors than I ever was having read the entire thread of mostly useless garble.

All I wanna know is this. Should I instll my cheap ass slotted/cross drilled rotors on my car when I am done or should I spend good money on a nice set of just slotted rotors and some nice HQ Hawk or Brembo pads.

Thank you.

Brave Blue - 91 NA with balls

With a response like this, you have the balls to call "us" "whiners"?
You gotta be kidding me...

You know what "STFU" means?
I suggest that's exactly what you do.
You yourself said you're new here...
Here's some advice: Read more and post less.


-Ted

Wow
 

I guess you seasoned rx posters would just prefer to scare off anyone who has questions about the car and needs help, just to inflate your ego and make you sound better then you are.

You expect anyone would want to come here and read or post with attitudes like that?

See, now you're not listening...

With your attitude, how are you get by in the world today?

How old are you?
Seriously?

You type like a 5th grader, so you're going to get addressed like a 5th grader.
Our only way to look at each other is through our typing.
I would suggest to drop the assine MaD-ShIfT-QuIk NFO crap, and type proper English.
Did you learn proper spelling, syntax, and sentence in English class?
Or are you still going to English class?

You seem to have a problem listening to other people who know more than you do.
Or are you like most immature kids who suddenly grow big cajones cause you're safe behind a CRT and keyboard cause we can't bitchslap in your bedroom?

Dude...drop the attitude and read more.
You're bound to learn SOMETHING rather than try and pick a fight with me.
You really don't know who you're fucking with.


-Ted