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nopistons13 10-02-05 11:32 AM

any ideas on new mods? 87 base non turbo
 
i have a few ideas for some mods, however any input would be appreciated.

1. bolt on turbo.
2. header
3. custom bent high flow exhaust
4. new ignition MSD
5. new plugs and wires
6. cold air intake
7 weight reduction
8 possibly a 50-75 shot of nitrous


these are just a few ideas i had like i said. thanks

homebrewer 10-02-05 11:43 AM

May I ask why? If you wanted a performance car, why didn't you buy one in the first place? Its cheaper and less time consuming to buy a TII if you want a turbo rotary powered vehicle than to convert a na.

If it were me, I'd just drive the car and enjoy it for what it is and save your money for a real performance vehicle such as a 3rd gen rex.

nopistons13 10-02-05 11:50 AM

well, maybe i wanted to preform these upgrades because i wanted to say that I did the work and not the factory. and to swap the turbo i would have to replace the entire drivetrain and transmission. plus there are no TII here nor are there any single turbo. thanks for the positive input.

CompuBob 10-02-05 12:06 PM

1. bolt on turbo.
you could do it.. you CAN get a jspec for about $1000, if you wanted to.. you dont need to change the transmission and rear end, but I dont recommend it

2. header
go for it

3. custom bent high flow exhaust
this with a header will be very loud

4. new ignition MSD
MSD is actoually crappier than the stock ignition

5. new plugs and wires
you should get these anyways

6. cold air intake
Make this one your first mod

7 weight reduction
remove your A/C compressor, lines, and condensor, Take out the power steeting, air pump, remove the rats nest, without a cat you'll have to remove the 5th and 6th port acutators and wire them open

8 possibly a 50-75 shot of nitrous
NO!

gxlbiscuit 10-02-05 12:17 PM

or tell the turbo nazis to go blow off themselves..... get suspension and lighten the car up and go have fun on track days and country roads... all rx7 are performance cars ..... turbos are fast performance cars........and where is the f@#* you icon for homebrewers third gen comment.. i know my car will kill at least the stock third gen....what an ass...... if seconds gens arent all that to you stay the hell out of the second gen section loser...

Kingbob 10-02-05 12:24 PM

With the stock mufflers (or similar) the 5/6 ports will open with gutted cats. But not until about 5.5k rpm. I've tested it with a pressure guage.

nopistons13 10-02-05 12:36 PM

yeah homebrewers a fuckhat. anyway. thanks guys. i will write more on the follow up or the mods.

bigdv519 10-02-05 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by CompuBob
8 possibly a 50-75 shot of nitrous
NO!

"...my friends cousin nephew blew his motor on a 500 shot of nitrous..."

You obviously have some bad experience with nitrous, however nitrous is a cost worthy mod for a normally aspirated RX-7. Experience speaks for itself, not rule of thumb, talk of the town, or assumptions.




Of course do a full 60k tuneup...blah blah blah...its been said a million times.

1. You could do it, its very possible, but what are your goals for the car?

2. The Racing Beat headers offer a noticable power gain over stock, and don't cost too much. http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm

3. Put a resonator in there somewhere unless you like to be heard a mile away.

4. New MSD ignition. You want to replace the stock ignition? You could add an MSD 6A box to your leading coil. Maybe a couple of hp, but more mpg on the highway.

5. I agree with CompuBob, these should already be done. NGK.

6. Cold air intake...maybe a cone filter with a heat resistant cold air box. For a TRUE cold air intake, you MIGHT ahve to cut a hole somewhere.

7. Weight redution is a definite plus. Improved stopping distance, improved acceleration, improved handling, better power to weight ratio.

8. Nitrous is the best bang-for-your-buck performance mod (excluding a tuneup). TUNE IT RIGHT!!! Oh yeah, this guy knows what hes talkign about...Sean Cathcart AKA scathcart.

bigdv519 10-02-05 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by homebrewer
May I ask why? If you wanted a performance car, why didn't you buy one in the first place? Its cheaper and less time consuming to buy a TII if you want a turbo rotary powered vehicle than to convert a na.

If it were me, I'd just drive the car and enjoy it for what it is and save your money for a real performance vehicle such as a 3rd gen rex.

Wheres a drunk driver when you need one???

inflatablepets 10-02-05 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by nopistons13
i have a few ideas for some mods, however any input would be appreciated.

1. bolt on turbo.
2. header
3. custom bent high flow exhaust
4. new ignition MSD
5. new plugs and wires
6. cold air intake
7 weight reduction
8 possibly a 50-75 shot of nitrous


these are just a few ideas i had like i said. thanks

Well, don't worry about homebrewer. He's one of those V-8 swap guys IIRC. The tuneup should be the first on the list. Then you need to determine which is the best approach for your needs. N/A or turbo. I have an N/A car and have driven a turbo FC before. I honestly like the N/A around town better. It seems "zippier" and more fun to drive. I just wish I had about 50% more hp and torque. With those, the car would be perfect IMO. If you stay N/A Then invest in the exhaust system. From what I've seen and heard, Racing beat makes one of the best systems. My philosiphy, I want performance, but I also want quiet. They seem to do both reasonably well. Leave the stock airbox alone until you make a true CAI. Trust me. You don't want to suck in all that hot air from under the hood. As far as aftermarket ignition systems, I have no experience. I assume at this point, you are looking at merely bolt ons right? Otherwise when rebuilding the motor, there are several porting options and other things like rotor lightening and champhering the rotor faces. (Machine shop only) If you want to turbo the N/A, then start saving, it's not chreap when done properly. You don't want to do it to a tired motor and have it last for 2 or 3 days. As far as the "buy a T II" guys, they can suck it! Everyone has a reason for buying their car. Find me a S5 TII perfect chassis with 52,000 miles on it for $600. It ain't gonna happen. I was lucky enough with my N/A. Besides FC's can be really scarce in some areas. Good luck with whichever approach you take.

inflatablepets 10-02-05 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by nopistons13
yeah homebrewers a fuckhat.

:rlaugh: :rlaugh: I've never heard "Fuckhat" Just Asshat.

Agent_D 10-04-05 04:49 PM

hahahaha, this is funny, bring any of your TII's against my n/a any day, it might not win in a straight line, but thats it. you should be more informative and smart and said, if you want a car to drive fast in a straight line get a TII so you can make stupid amounts of power and go fast in 1/4 mile straight drag races.

asshat was lame and people started making fun of people using it, so fuckhat is a bit better i guess, who knows

RETed 10-05-05 06:45 AM

How much money are you willing to spend???


-Ted

Ronald E. Jacques 10-05-05 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
How much money are you willing to spend???


-Ted


Ha Ha Ha Teds favorite response!

My favorite mod: weight reduction. Its FREE! If you stick to it eventually you can take enough out to feel an improvement in accel, braking, handling, etc. Not a huge improvement, but decent. After that, intake and exhaust have the best cost:improvement ratio. My $.02.


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