88ae Fc Vs S14
 

Which is a better car in all aspects. Such as MAINTANENCE is a big issue for the FC, but a well modded FC vs a well modded S14....which would be better? Im contemplating because i am expecting a child and even tho the FC can fit 4 with rear seats, the S14 would be more of a reliable car? Its hard because i still want to keep the hobby of modifying cars but also want to be a responsible father as well. Any opinions on this matter?

Don't get me wrong, I love the FC, and in fact at one time I owned both a 10AE and an S14. If you are looking for a USEABLE back seat go with the S14, it will be less maintainance, generally cheaper, and more spacious on the inside than the FC. S14 is definitely a better family car.

But how close are the FC and the S14 in terms of performance wise? I know the S14 is way better for drifting thats no question but in terms of everything...i might be trading my FC for a S14 but its so hard to do...so i just want to make sure i am making the right choice lol.

well are you planning on doing the engine swap for the s14? Because a turbo FC will smoke a 240sx in almost all categories stock-for-stock.

yup...planning to do the SR swap.

the FC will out handle the s14 without a doubt. S14 is newer so it will probably be in better condition and other stuff besides the engine won't need work as soon. I've driven an s14 and they handle like my 00' corolla, and are about as fast as a stock non-turbo FC. If you want a backseat though get the s14, the 2+2 are useless and I would not want to put my baby is such a small car.

what is so different about the handling on both cars? and if the fc can handle better than the s14...shouldnt the fc be a drift machine and not vise versa?

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The FC handles better when it has traction. When you don't have traction... you don't have handling... you're just sliding along a path.

s14's are cheap to maintain and upgrade, the swaps are cheap, parts are easy to find. basically its cheaper to mod.

Handling is crisper in the FC. It's a lighter, more balanced car with, in my opinion, better suspension geometry. The car was designed around being a sports car with performance among the upper rungs of the "what's important" developement ladder.

However, for a building platform, the S14 is going to be better to start with. You'll be able to get more reliable power for less money...at the expense of having the car that ricer-poseurs step up to when they wreck their tyte civic.

But, if you're comparing these cars with where to put a child-seat in mind, you're a moron of remarkable magnitude. Grow up.

so im guessing i should lean towards getting an s14 rather than an FC...since i expect to have a baby coming soon...plus it would save me lots in repairs and maintanence. If some1 can prove me wrong otherwise...i will have to sell the 7 =(

1) Neither are good cars to carry a baby in. End of story.
2) If you think how well a car drifts = how well a car handles...i feel sorry for you
3) Any modified car will generally require more upkeep than a stock car, expect problems with either car.
4) You'll have to swap the engine in the s14 just to get it on the same starting ground as the tII. So there you've already spent a couple grand most likely.

Verdict: Buy a real family car if you're worried about carrying a baby around, and keep the other as a weekend/hobby car. The last thing you need is to drift you and your baby off a cliff or into a wall.

yes i am going to drift around with my kid in the car? are u stupid? why do people always make assumptions? I am currently looking for a winter car to drive around in and keepin the FC (or s14) as a last resort car if anything. But even tho it will be a last resort car, i would still like to know more about both cars and that is why i am posting this thread in the forum. ask questions before you assume. thanks. and to those that are saying that i am stupid for even thinking of either car, i am assuming u are the ones that are in the mid 40s that have no logical thinking and blurt out whatever comes to your mind first (oh this guy is immature for even thinking of keepin the fc or gettin an s14 with a baby) before u even ask the important questions that maybe could have been answered if you asked. and thank you to the ones that are just answering the questions that i have asked, much appreciated.

the swaps for 240's will run you $2000 just for the engine/transmission and all the other accessories needed to get it to run. Parts are alittle cheaper but thats it, and I've done both the sr swap and a 13bt swap and the 13bt swap is easier (thats if you don't swap the whole drivetrain).

ya i would do the swap maybe 2yrs down the road when i am more financially stable. i would keep most of it stock because i would want a more reliable car when the baby arrives.

your compairing a car that was designed in the late 80s vs a car designed in the 90s. the 240 is a piston car. engines are plentiful and cheap for that car. the chassis is stiffer. the car is better overall, especially considering its a s4. i hate to break it, but s4s are even less relabile than s5s, if thats possible. keep in mind problems such as that they like to catch on fire. get the 240, and u wont kill yourself once a month.

get a mini-van for the family and keep the FC to rip when you want to. or even a SUV on the side. Don't try and make any sports car double as both. Especially if your going to modify it.

Dodge Magnum!!!

My friend just dropped 6800 in his 240 for a mild modified SR swap done right every step of the way. I'm gonna let the topic go though, and say that if you're buying a winter family car as well look very closely at everything Subaru makes. My Legacy treats me very well.

Spoken by someone who has never heard the phrase "Bayerische Motoren Werke".

i don't have the funds to get a minivan. and that is why if i sell the fc i would trade it for a 240 so i don't put too much money into transportation. i need to save for an apt. and all the things that comes with expecting a baby. i wish i could get a minivan, i would most definiety get a siena but i don't have the funds for such a van. and if i would modify the 240? yes i would but not till i can get another reliable car. the only mods i would do would be rims and suspensions. not any heavy performance mods. need to keep the car in a nice safe running condition.

You're still not looking at this like a man*. Your days of having your daily transportation and a car to tinker with in the same vehicle are done. They're gone, bye bye, for at least the nest 20 years of your life.

What kind of retard would even consider taking an already sport-inspired automobil, tweaking the suspension into something that will undoubtedly make the ride stiffer, and then slapping an infant into it's back seat which was never at any time designed with such a use as a consideration?

Odds are if you don't have the funds to pick you up propper transportation, then you should have kept your pants zipped.

sorry that u cant get any...but u don't have to take it out on the rest of the forum. other people have supported me and have only given me good advice in the questions i have asked...after me shutting u up b4...i don't think you should be talkin. thanks for ur 0cents. bye. oh and if your a counsellor, i never asked for one. and also i have read many many other people that are currently driving their kid in an FC. Does that make them a bad person? If so who are you to judge, sorry grandpa....you can't look after the whole world. Before judging others look at yourself and stop hating. Am i the only one that feels this way?

I hate how children are allowed to reproduce these days...:rolleyes:

Please write somewhere where people care about your opinion?

oh and why are you making the assumption that if i cant afford a decent automobile...i am not allowed to have a child? how about the many people that take a bus with a child? its against the law now because they cant afford a decent automobile? thts the stupidest shit i have ever heard....

:werd:

:confused: I think you should read a couple of posts by a guy named Icemark. The S5 is not more reliable than the S4, and in many ways it CAN BE less reliable overall (oil metering pump comes to mind).

:bigthumb: I'd suggest getting an early '90s AWD Mazda MPV. Probably in the same price range as a decent T2.

-Good luck with the baby dude, the fun is over. :D

Congrats on the baby. Of all cars, you should not get a sports coupe. The ride is harsh for the baby . If anything , get a decent Japanese sedan such as an Altima , Maxima, Camry etc. You need 4 doors. It'll make it easier to strap the little one in.
Besides, the 4 door Japanese sedans are reliable and good looking.

Oh and by the way, don't get a Mazda 90's and up automatic trans. It's a major piece of shit. I'm surprised Mazda didn't do a recall on them. The MPV and Navajo were the worst.

well the fc comes with lsd stock-s14 doesnt
fc has better weight distribution---s14's isnt as balance like a fc
fc you already have invested money(assuming)--s14 will cost roughly 3-4k to do the swap properly

no you fucking moron
you need to go get a cheap realiable 4 door sedan so your child seat can be properly installed and you have room to haul you and yoru gf/wife areound and all the baby's crap

you shouldnt be getting an FC or and S14 or even thinknig abotu getting one if you are expecting a baby
if you do get one it wil be a car for you only you wont be transporting a baby in it

go get an AE ( if you can find a seller ) or a TII and make it a project car and build it up the way you want over a couple year period
that would be yoru best bet


dude if you dont have money to get even a 0 year old minivan for like 2-3K and you need to save for an aptartment and all the shit a baby will need

YOU SHOULDNT BE HAVING A FUCKING BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU OBVIOUSLY ARENT FINACIALLY READY TO HAVE A KID BUT YOU WILL AND HELL BE THE FUCKING BASTARD THAT ROBS MY CAR OR HOUSE 15 YEARS DOWN THE LINE


god damn man if you cant afford it dont fucking have it simple


dude if you cant afford a decent automobile for your soone to be family then you cant fucking afford a kid

the stupidest shit is having ia kid when you arent fucking finacially ready to have a kid
and no if you cant afford a decent car it doesnt mean that you arent allowed to have a kid any two morons can make a fucking baby it just means that you wont be able to support that kid finacially, and that you shoudl have worn a god dmaned condom or kept your fucking pants zipped


god dan 18 fucking year olds having fucking kids

wow...

i'd like to chime in with my .02 cents....<readies his fire extinguisher>

IMO, family > fun, but if you want to get whatever car you want, u gotta understand that there's gotta b a comprimise somewhere....

baby+new apartment = alotta $$$

baby+new apartment+another car (replacment or not) = a whole lotta $$$

baby+new apartment+another car+mods = a shit load of $$$

not to sound like a prick or anything, but take it from me, i've got 3 kids, was so financially unstable, had a 91 integra coupe as a family car for a while, until i got a subaru, and im only 25! it'll definatley be hard living and stressful for the next couple of years.

yeah, there are a whole lotta other shit thats gonna get factored in over the years but, like some of these other posters said, get a family car 1st, then over time (2-3 years down the road) think about getting a rx-7 project car. even if it means getting rid of your 7 to get a family car, do it...although your priorities might be different from everyone else's, in the end...its all about you...

and your new family :)

g'luck with the young'un. :bigthumb:

ps: dont mean to sound like a counselor or whatever, but this is just my opinion, take for what its worth, entirely up to you....now, let the flames begin! :fruit:

no flames, i agree 100%

you guys are asses.. hes not asking for a guide on how to be a father i dont know who the hell you people think you are...... he is asking about a car.. either answer his car question or shut the hell up... f#cking perfect people...you wanna give that kinda advice go give your life to god or something and become a priest. some of you negative people sound like you have learned from being stupid yourselves..... if dont even have a kid you really need to shut up..... to the poster: i dont think you should put a baby in either car... get a 4 door.....

...followed by...

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its just not feasible.. im not being an ass..... wrong tool for the job...

thank you for giving me your advice and not flamming my ass to kingdom come. All i needed was a short piece of advice, not a long ass paragraph on how stupid i am and etc etc. And if you were in my position, you would understand what Heet is saying because if i do want to be a happy involved father, i am still human and need to keep myself sane with doing work and going to school and taking care of a kid and wife. I will see if i can even sell the 7 for a decent price.

you+ family sedan (626, civic, etc)-rx7+appartment= :bigthumb:
and once your set in the appartment and financially stable, then maybe, maybe get another fc or 240 to mod on the side. but just make sure you have extra cash on the side before you get a project car.

626 eh? thts by mazda isnt it? ya those seem pretty stable.

yeah, i had a 95, best car i've owned.