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InABox 07-28-06 10:26 PM

87 na vs. 06 solstice
 
Ok last summer my bosse sold me his 87 rx7, it's all stock except for the bonez cold air intake i just got (going in tomorrow or sunday).... so we were at a red light the other night just by chance and he smoked me...he said i could get a rematch anytime I wanted. So my question is what do i need to upgrade to beat him next time. keep in mind his solstice is 177hp and is perty much all fiber glass, so it weighs a lot less then my rx7. Please help. I wanna put his mid life crisses on ice it would be so funny at work.

RETed 07-28-06 10:28 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS


-Ted

MPM 07-28-06 10:29 PM

You spelled it wrong Ted.


NAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWZZZZZZZ

InABox 07-28-06 10:59 PM

anything ellse other then nos?

Denholm 07-28-06 11:16 PM

It was a joke, and you'd probably need many things.. most importantly a full exhaust system. Try racingbeat

Omixeo 07-28-06 11:20 PM

Gut your interior, get a good cold air setup, better exhaust.

speed_monkey 07-28-06 11:22 PM

You could potentially build a 200hp streetable n/a, but what is your budget?

InABox 07-28-06 11:27 PM

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my budget is $1000.00 ish.....but probley spead out. the cold air is going in monday for sure. after that i was thinking a catback... (cell phone pics)

NCross 07-28-06 11:31 PM

Get a good start and shift as quickly and smoothly as possible. I always shift around 6600 RPM whn I'm getting on it. Take out stuff you don't need anyway not just for one little race. Take out all the unused speakers, amps, AAS motors, foam above gas tank, rear wiper/motor, wiper fluid tanks etc etc... Also take the advantage of having less gas in your tank. If you run with 3 gallons of gas as opposed to 16 gallons you'll be save about 70-80 pounds.

socalfct2 07-28-06 11:33 PM

Put a bannana in his muffler before you race next

InABox 07-28-06 11:35 PM

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haha a bannana eh? should i key his paint? and i guess if making tha car lighter is that important (even though he's already 800 lbs lighter) i should get a treadmill lol.

ericgrau 07-29-06 12:52 AM

13 gallons of gas weighs about 100lbs. :)
20lbs. <---> 1HP (S4 FC only, varies by car weight/power)
A lighter flywheel can equal up to ~200lbs. (400lbs.? I don't know exact value, and it varies) in 1st gear. As the gear gets higher it becomes a lot less.

Stock weight for the Solstice is 2900lbs. I don't know what all that fiberglass would save but probably no more than 150-300lbs. So looks like you need 180HP or so.

Don't just get catback. A performance cat is important. Make sure your cold air intake is really cold air: it must be sealed off from the air under the hood and open to outside air. The cold intake should yield 6-7HP.

That's a pretty blue. Take good care of it.

Jager 07-29-06 01:32 AM

The Bonez kit isn't a cold air kit.

Weight reduction (ac/ps/jack/spare/random bolts/removal of sound deadening material, and so on, Bonez test pipe/COrksport

cat-back, true cai, and a SAFC with a tune. Best bang for the $1000 buck and only if you have done preventative maintence ahead of time.

I still don't think you'll beat him myself, but maybe he'll miss a shift ;). Keep in mind your car is 20 years older and the engine may be pretty tired.

Omixeo 07-29-06 01:58 AM

Do a full tune up too!

LexTalionis502 07-29-06 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by InABox
So my question is what do i need to upgrade to beat him next time.

In this particular situation, I recommend a good solid brick or a Louisville Slugger. Unless you do some good upgrading/tuning, or he just can't drive, you're probably not gonna pull it off. Listen to what they have said.

fcdrifter13 07-29-06 05:07 AM

Sell the NA car and put that money together with that other 1k and buy a turbo car.

GTU_FAN 07-29-06 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by fcdrifter13
Sell the NA car and put that money together with that other 1k and buy a turbo car.

^ What he said. I have an NA FC with like 8k in bolt-ons including a full racing beat race exhaust/flyhweel/clutch/LSD etc. And I have yet to break 15's. NA FC's are slow dont listen to any crazy stories of NA's beating S2k's or STI's or whatever... even downhill!

drft_180sx 07-29-06 10:33 AM

^ same here....nearly 5 grand invested...see sig, plus i have a Lightweight flywheel and street/strip clutch going in.

BUT i have a feeling my N/A is more responsive than most TII (i could be wrong) which makes it hella lot of fun...

I still have to do the intake side of my car and port/polishing of the intake mani's. then maybe i can break like 160whp? ha!

snowball 07-29-06 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by ericgrau
13 gallons of gas weighs about 100lbs. :)
20lbs. <---> 1HP (S4 FC only, varies by car weight/power)
A lighter flywheel can equal up to ~200lbs. (400lbs.? I don't know exact value, and it varies) in 1st gear. As the gear gets higher it becomes a lot less.

Stock weight for the Solstice is 2900lbs. I don't know what all that fiberglass would save but probably no more than 150-300lbs. So looks like you need 180HP or so.

Don't just get catback. A performance cat is important. Make sure your cold air intake is really cold air: it must be sealed off from the air under the hood and open to outside air. The cold intake should yield 6-7HP.

That's a pretty blue. Take good care of it.

bingo the FC is lighter
solstice 2860lbs
87 FC 2700lbs

Jager 07-29-06 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by GTU_FAN
^ What he said. I have an NA FC with like 8k in bolt-ons including a full racing beat race exhaust/flyhweel/clutch/LSD etc. And I have yet to break 15's. NA FC's are slow dont listen to any crazy stories of NA's beating S2k's or STI's or whatever... even downhill!

I ran 15's wtihout half of that.

You can't drive.

GTU_FAN 07-30-06 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jager
I ran 15's wtihout half of that.

You can't drive.

Show me some timeslips or stfu

raptor22 07-30-06 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by snowball
bingo the FC is lighter
solstice 2860lbs
87 FC 2700lbs

exactly...add in that the car has only a little more power and has WAY more aerodynamic drag than us, I don't see any reason why you can't beat it in the right conditions...and with some good driver skill.

I say you put that money into suspension mods and go race in the twisties.

raptor22 07-30-06 03:07 AM

I still and suprised about how much mroe aerodynamic drag the solstice has over the FC... CD of .44 for the solstice vs .31 for the FC. And an aero dit knocks it down to .28 for the FC.

.44 is seriously pathetic for a newer car, especially since they should have run it through cfd analysis before they produced it.

KillaKitiie 07-30-06 03:21 AM

Do these mod's and rape him....i ran one just awhile ago started at 40 in 2nd gear about 4 sec later and 80mph i shifted to third and he was 2 car's back!...lol

And shit for the peeps saying buy a turbo car..haha i can outrun anystock t2 easy and thats not even spraying the 75 shot i have.

darksider 07-30-06 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by socalfct2
Put a bannana in his muffler before you race next

lolz


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