13B DEI need help with performance
 

Hi, i bought a FC3S not to long ago and i have a boNez racing intake, bonez 2.5" superflo system, and greddy power extreme cat-back. and i would like to know what else i can do to peak my cars HP, and what brands are recomended since i cannot buy a T2 system.
ive heard people say in other forums that they peaked there car at 200hp at a stock 145hp 13b DEI inject motor, and i am un impressed with there results but thats all i have going, i also do not want to sale my car nor try the difficult task of the 13b DEW T2 swap, becuase of extra purchases and electrical wireing problems i will have to deal with.
so if you all can lend a hand and help me with what else i can do to improve my HP would be very much appreciated. :bigthumb:

be the way i still need to pass emission and so fourth, i am what you call a poor racer =)

well, one day when i can be fortunate to get paid more i hope i can b wut u call a racer ;)
but for the time being i dont have the money. car purchased aug. 7th of 2004

The stock 86-88 13B non turbo motor makes 146hp and 138 or ft/lbs of torque, getting it to 200 hp is not for the faint hearted or the small pocket book. It is even harder with keeping emissions (some emissons parts will have to go no matter what).

But to get 200 hp (without nitrous) out of a non turbo is above the idea of bolt on parts. It requires porting and other work.

thanks for the info icemark, what do you think i should do performance wise?

thanx for that link CWSTTU! =)

what should i buy for my rx7 and still b street legal? any advice would help, i didnt do my homeworkd on NA rotarys only turbos =( and has any one done a turbo swap, becuz i like my body and frame so i dont want to buy a T2 cuz thats alot of swaping, so its fine with spending money for the t2 swap.

s-afc, is pretty much your only choice after what you have already (and technically even that is not "street legal").

Maybe also a high discharge ignition controller and Iridium plugs.

Between the two, you might (if you are really lucky) get another 15 or 20 or so peak HP

thanx ice, 15 to 20 is good enough for me =) but i think ill wait till i have enough money for a swap then... i was thinking twin blitz or hks with high end HP and use NOS to rid of my turbo lagg if there is any... thanx every one, by t he way i still need to know if any one has done a 13b DEI to 13b DEW swap.

bump

because I am way too impatient.. so I must bump this up only 9 minutes after I asked my last question...a question that I should have searched for or read the FAQ for FC anyway.

Edited by mod

Please read the FAQ for FC at the top of the section. It covers this.

hehe sorry, i am an impatiant bastard =)

yea ur weird

Strip the weight down as much as possible. For the time and money it takes to get any power out of a N/A its much easier and cheaper to just drop a TII motor. I have a S5 N/A with a TII trans and a straight pipe with intake and a light flywheel and my friends stock S5 TII whips my ass pretty bad all the time. Sell your car and buy a TII if you want power. I think its worthless to invest big $$$ into a N/A unless you supercharge and even then you will still be losing to turbo charged FC's.

why would you use the heavy T2 tranny and a custom drive shaft on a non-turbo???

Unless you have really built up the engine or are drag racing, there would never be the need for a non-turbo to use the turbo tranny.

I guess; maybe if you were a crappy driver, and needed the extra strength to make up for crappy shifting style...then a R-type tranny would be worth it..., but it wouldn't last that much longer.

Uh actually I just happened to come across a TII parts car for $100 so I said hell yeah even though I was leaning towards a N/A trans. THe driveshaft wasn't custom built however. I just used the TII shaft and drilled the holes for it in my diff flange. It was for a swap and a heavy TII trans is much lighter than an automatic.

ah, you used it for a auto to manual swap... and what did you use for a flywheel, the one from the turbo parts car?

I thought the t2 trans was only a bit heavier then NA. Someone quoted me 30 pounds difference between the trans driveshaft diff and halfshafts of a T2 vs NA. anyone got 2 out to weigh? I'm quite fearful of breaking my NA tans and was going to drop a t2 trans in sometime after breakin so i can stop worrying about the trans/ not hard launching it..

Used an ACT prolite flywheel with a stock TII clutch. The clutch in the parts car was brand new with not a sign of any use. I actually recieved the flywheel in exchange for some of the parts off the TII. My friend recomended using it seeing as how its 13.5lb wieght was somewhat closer to the wieght of the old flex plate. I bolted it right to the counter wieght that was already on. It was a turbo flywheel out of his 10 second FD. I had it resurfaced and it was good as new. The TII trans itself is 19lbs heavier than the N/A and the shaft I would guess was about 5 pounds heavier at most.