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Barbantus 12-05-09 08:10 PM

RX7 with B19 Engine?
 
I saw this listing and this guy says it has a non-rotary factory equipped B19 engine. Sounds like a hoax. Check it out,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-...item33581b343d

I asked him if he had any engine shots, so we'll see lol.

K-Tune 12-05-09 08:11 PM

...it has a volvo engine?

TheAbsence 12-05-09 08:16 PM

Wow, that is rare. Its interesting that he is promoting its rare engine, but has no engine pictures.

beefhole 12-05-09 09:14 PM

WOW! It could even be factory STRIPES. Man, is that steering wheel cover factory too?

Barbantus 12-05-09 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by beefhole (Post 9661003)
WOW! It could even be factory STRIPES. Man, is that steering wheel cover factory too?

Haha yeah really, those stripes are hideous. I love your avatar pic btw.

FC3S Mitchell 12-05-09 09:53 PM

b19... yuck horrible horsepower.... her son prolly stole her engine and gave her that beat down 97-possibly, highly doubtful 117hp engine... no wonder it was driven by granny

fstbckgt 12-05-09 11:01 PM

cant wait to see the pics

bad 83 12-05-09 11:37 PM

Sounds pretty fhishy to me.............

RockyZ 12-05-09 11:37 PM

Well aside from the hideous graphics, slushbox, and the claimed B19 engine. That vert looks ridiculously clean compared to the trashed up FC's in my area.

fstbckgt 12-06-09 02:55 AM

"we do not know if it came with these stripes, as they look factory." :rofl: the pimp my ride factory? i just realized this car is in tempe, i may have to check it out next week

TheAbsence 12-06-09 05:08 AM

You know whats weird is that is looks like it has a s5 turbo gauge cluster. I can't see the boost gauge, but from the angles I see a 7k rpm redline and the s5 style gauges.

s4 N/A

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...X/IMG_3558.jpg

s5 N/A

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_owD0oZ2STao/Sw...ec/cluster.jpg

StavFC 12-06-09 05:58 AM

I wonder how hard it is to fit one in to a FC? Be interesting to see pics, as 4cyl Volvo Redblocks are ten a penny and can do over 1000bhp...

clokker 12-06-09 07:04 AM

The seller is delusional.
Dollars to donuts that the ebay lister never provides engine bay pics and if he does, it's going to be the stock rotary engine.

Something looks wrong with the top...it's so baggy and loose when in the up position.
Possibly another "factory" modification?

@the absence:
Guage cluster looks like a bone stock S5 vert part to me.
Doesn't even have stripes.

Islander 12-06-09 07:44 AM

Yeah i think its a hoax. I looked at the ad yesterday and knew someone would find it and post. So i guess we are all waiting to see this special B19 engine. lol

Chris Boots 12-06-09 11:54 AM

I left him a nice question containing things like "how is a Volvo engine a Mazda factory installation", and something like "How does it bolt up to a Mazda trans" and I mentioned something about rx7's only ever being a unique rotary engine car. I'm interested in pics and more/less can't wait for it to say 13B Injection Mazda on top of the intake

joeylyrech 12-06-09 12:19 PM

the seller is really high on crack or does not know what the fuck is he selling,that is just a S5 vert with some gay vinyl and a factory 13B.B19 what the fuck let just wait until monday for the pictures so then we can go eon e-bay and make fun oh him.

mikeric 12-06-09 12:35 PM

THIS RARE MAZDA COMES WITH THE B19 ENGINE... NOT ROTARY FACTORY ORDERED VERY RARE!

THIS COULD BE A COLLECTOR ITEMS!

WE DO NOT KNOW IF IT CAME WITH THESE STRIPES, AS THEY LOOK FACTORY.

HERE IS A VERY RARE MAZDA RX7 WITH THE B19 ENGINE FROM THE FACTORY.

What an idiot! I would not buy anything from him.
Moron!

TheAbsence 12-06-09 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 9661493)
@the absence:
Guage cluster looks like a bone stock S5 vert part to me.
Doesn't even have stripes.

Series 5 convertibles have a redline of 8k. The automatics and the manuals don't matter in terms of the redline... right?

FirebirdSlayer666 12-06-09 05:23 PM

^^^^Autos had 7k redline. Just the same as the auto RX-8's have a 7k redline while the 6-Speeds have the 9k.

TheAbsence 12-06-09 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666 (Post 9662285)
^^^^Autos had 7k redline. Just the same as the auto RX-8's have a 7k redline while the 6-Speeds have the 9k.

Whoa, you learn something new everyday!

Evil Aviator 12-06-09 05:47 PM

Looks like the typical graphics that a 60 year old lady would put on her car... not so much.

You should do a title search to see if Evel Knievel owned it.

Kinda funny that the wheels and seats make up 90% of the value of that car.

mxrider914 12-06-09 06:25 PM

if you type the vin into google the carfax website comes up and says it came with 1.3L R FI. people are so stupid!

clokker 12-06-09 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by mxrider914 (Post 9662422)
if you type the vin into google the carfax website comes up and says it came with 1.3L R FI. people are so stupid!

Carfax is useless, all it'll tell you is the stock specs.
If the engine was swapped, Carfax would be the last one to know.

JCurry 12-06-09 07:53 PM

correction robbie Knievel owned it!! haha....13b tractor engine ftw!

fidelity101 12-07-09 01:54 AM

and yet no engine bay shots

I doubt no wait I BET the b19 trans doesn not bolt up to the stock auto trans because that shifter looks factory 13b auto trans

mikeric 12-07-09 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 9662501)
Carfax is useless, all it'll tell you is the stock specs.
If the engine was swapped, Carfax would be the last one to know.

You are missing the part where the seller says that it is factory stock, not an engine swap. Me thinks he does not know how to read.

clokker 12-07-09 08:42 AM

I didn't "miss" that but I did ignore it.
The whole "factory swapped" scenario is so improbable I figured I was safe doing so.

The idea that some Sun City grandma had enough pull with Mazda to create such a car is so farfetched that I think we can all discount it and instead imagine a circumstance where an oddball engine ended up in the car...assuming it's been swapped at all, which I doubt.

ITSWILL 12-07-09 09:20 AM

classic!

Hypertek 12-07-09 09:29 AM

color is a mockery of the racing beat cars.. lol

87 t-66 12-07-09 09:36 AM

"this was a 60 year old lady who owned this RX7"

:rlaugh: i can just picture a 60 year old lady driving that car.

ITSWILL 12-07-09 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by 87 t-66 (Post 9663514)
"this was a 60 year old lady who owned this RX7"

:rlaugh: i can just picture a 60 year old lady driving that car.

Yeah 60 year old ladies are know for their upkeep of cars and automotive knowledge. I wonder if she is a member of the forum???...

TheAbsence 12-07-09 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ITSWILL (Post 9663590)
Yeah 60 year old ladies are know for their upkeep of cars and automotive knowledge. I wonder if she is a member of the forum???...

DKJ possibly?

groznyiv 12-07-09 01:53 PM

He has also posted the car on justgoodcars site and craigslist but no pics of the engine on either site.

groznyiv 12-07-09 02:01 PM

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Maybe the seller is confused and he meant to sell this car?? :lol:

If you look after the winner of the Barcelona Constructor's Worlds, don't wait any longer. What Michael Niemas did with the set-up of this tiny Chevron-Mazda B19 was just miraculous. The car - a Dieter Jens creation - was struggling until the very last stages of the race with the leading Ferraris 512S and Porsches 917K. Next year Niemas will enter an Aston Martin DBR9 at the Barcelona Worlds. Pit Schwaar himself will build the second Aston DBR9. So we can be sure to see two splendid Astons in Spain. The master of the Aston will be built by Michael Gräber.

fstbckgt 12-07-09 04:12 PM

:cursing: its monday and no pics, wth. i wanna laugh already

mbonner 12-07-09 04:19 PM

Well, looks like they pulled the B19 motor as now that nice looking little car has a 13B according to the revised ad, but no underhood pics, so far!
Mike

clokker 12-07-09 04:32 PM

Engine pics now up.
It's very clean, albeit slathered in ArmorAll.

RotaryRocket88 12-07-09 04:34 PM

Hah! I got them to change it by posting in the Q/A section. On a side note, that is one clean engine bay.

Q: Do you realize no RX-7 ever came with anything other than a 12A or 13B ROTARY engine? A B19 is a Volvo 4-cylinder, so if it's actually in that car, someone swapped it. It's NOT factory and neither are the ugly vinyl stickers. Dec-07-09
A: IT'S A 13B YOU ARE RIGHT. I FINALLY LOOKED UNDER THE HOOD THE GUY THAT OWNS THIS DECIDED TO SELL IT AS HIS WIFE DIED FROM A HEALTH ISSUE, HE DROVE IT HERE FOR US TO PUT ON EBAY HE TOLD ME IT WAS A B19 I HAD 20 EMAILS SO I HAD HIM DRIVE IT HERE TODAY..YOU ARE RIGHT.ALSO YES STRIPES ARE UGLY EASY TO TAKE OFF WITH A HEAT, I'M DOING HIM A FAVOR SELLING IT FOR HIM THAT'S ALL.STILL LIKE NEW CONDITION REALLY CLEAN. IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE DECALS OFF... PRETTY HOT LOOKING.

ericgrau 12-07-09 05:25 PM

Wait I'm sensing a pattern. Based on what he said before and what he's saying now... he was the real owner and he broke something. J/k.

Actually my guess is he has no idea what he's talking about but he just got this car and is trying to pretend like he does so he can sell it. I assume it's your typical neglected old person automatic. The last owner probably got tired of it or he inherited it. Could probably give it some minor service and it should be fine. Too bad it's an auto. Just a guess. Always get a car inspected before you buy.

farberio 12-07-09 07:20 PM

NO SHIT!!! The pics are up and ITS A B19!!!!

mbonner 12-07-09 07:55 PM

Looks like a very nice car for the money. Anyway he sure got my attention, and yours. If it was not a slushbox version I might go after that, after all, as he says, you can pull the vynil junk off
Mike

dawicka2 12-07-09 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by farberio (Post 9664701)
NO SHIT!!! The pics are up and ITS A B19!!!!

YUP ITS ACTUALLY A 19B, which is a 2.85 rotor.

Wow. Thats rare.

I wouldn't buy computer paper from this shady bastard.

john ny

lupin 12-08-09 01:33 AM

$3,950.00 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Id like to see him get $500 for that car.
No matter how clean that car is no one will want it, Fcs are a dime a dozen in my area. You could buy a beatup fc, replace everything and drop in a turbo motor for less than $3,950.00!

clokker 12-08-09 07:19 AM

And you'd have a beat up FC with a (probably) junk engine in it.
All for just $4k.

Whoopie.

blwfly 12-08-09 08:54 AM

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ahaha all this trouble and its just a 13b 6port.. i was hoping for a b19 engine...


heres a b19
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1260284033

10yearrx7 12-08-09 02:03 PM

I must be seeing different pics than everyone else, The description i read says it has a 13b and the pics show a 13b

Gurew 12-08-09 02:23 PM

i called the guy, he is local to me....real nice guy i think he has no fucking clue what he is selling...he it trying to sell it for a customer that owes him money....i should go by and snap a few pics of the engine bay lol

Gurew 12-08-09 02:23 PM

as i finshed typing that, i looked at the ebay listing again and bam stock 13b pictures :P


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