ROTARY NOT F*CKIN DEAD.. too bad it's going to be a weak ass car :(
anybody else see this yet?
Mazda to resurrect the rotary engine next year in range-extended electric car | Fox News "Electricity brought Frankenstein’s monster back to life, why not the Wankel? After ending production of its last car powered by a rotary engine this past June, Mazda CEO Takashi Yamanouchi has confirmed that the unique powerplant will return next year in a new range-extended electric car like the Chevy Volt, according to Autocar. Rather than propel the vehicle directly, the compact engine will be used as a generator for its electric motors and to charge its battery. "The rotary has very good dynamic performance, but if you accelerate and brake a lot there are efficiency disadvantages. The range extender overcomes that. We can keep it spinning at its most efficient 2000rpm while also taking advantage of its size," Yamanouchi told the news outlet. Further details on the vehicle were not revealed, but the automaker has previously tested an electric version of its Mazda5 minivan that used a hydrogen-fueled rotary engine as a range-extending generator. Read more: " http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/...#ixzz25AXBrwiZ |
Mazda needs this to compete with the other manufacturers.
If they can sell enough hybrids maybe they'll put some of that money back into a new rotary sports car. :fingersx: |
I realy hope Mazda can make enough money so they can justify using enough on R&D to get a new Rotary powered car, cause electrics car's suck.
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Oh, I didn't know you can predict the speed of the car that Mazda might produce in the not so near future. I didn't know time travel was possible.
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The engineering behind that actually sounds pretty awesome. They're taking the wankel engine beyond it's current "use" and turning it into a "centrifugal force" generator (or, that's what I got from the article). I think that it's pretty awesome that Mazda has the innovation & willingness to actually even think about doing something like this.
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I think its dope.. and I also think this is gonna be a big eye opener for the "rotaries are unreliable" people, when their moms put 300,000 miles on their rotary powered prius haha
I'd get one, slam it, and call it a day :) |
I have seen some pretty fast electric cars.
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this sounds pretty interesting.. as long as they don't only put it in an SUV, or make it look like a prius..
edit: what i mean is hybrid electric cars always have this certain look to them, i guess to hide the batteries or something idk. just make it look like a normal car. |
Gay. Hybrids are not the answer. Tesla proved that you can make a practical full electric vehicle. If only the government would help them to lower the price...
What about the 16x? I'm about to make my own 16xxx... porno version. lol |
Wow this is pretty cool
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There's already a thread about this.
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This is just depressing.
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If mazda makes rotaries mainstream im selling my 7
/hipster |
Originally Posted by Molotovman
(Post 11207661)
There's already a thread about this.
Hahaha just kidding :P |
The rotary was not a hot seller because the mpg really hurt it, so this is great if they can do this and bring awareness back to it to the masses.
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Originally Posted by Hypertek
(Post 11207954)
The rotary was not a hot seller because the mpg really hurt it, so this is great if they can do this and bring awareness back to it to the masses.
i'm glad it's making a comeback.. it's just a liiiitle wack that it's going to be a prius class car.. but hey, at least it's keeping mazda on their rotary shit.. someday, and hopefully someday soon, they will be smushin out power from another weird little 1.3L motor :') hahaha honestly though:icon_tup: |
Originally Posted by beachFC
(Post 11208121)
exactly!
i'm glad it's making a comeback.. it's just a liiiitle wack that it's going to be a prius class car.. but hey, at least it's keeping mazda on their rotary shit.. someday, and hopefully someday soon, they will be smushin out power from another weird little 1.3L motor :') hahaha honestly though:icon_tup: |
Originally Posted by Hypertek
(Post 11207954)
The rotary was not a hot seller because the mpg really hurt it, so this is great if they can do this and bring awareness back to it to the masses.
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Originally Posted by Molotovman
(Post 11207661)
There's already a thread about this.
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Originally Posted by Molotovman
(Post 11208148)
Have you head of the 16X?
they need more inspiration! |
A performance hybrid would be cool. I dont think hybrids would be so bad if they just had an on and off switch.
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Originally Posted by thethingthatshouldnotbe
(Post 11208480)
A performance hybrid would be cool. I dont think hybrids would be so bad if they just had an on and off switch.
hopefully mazda is doing something more along the lines of that, and not the prius :icon_tup: |
Hybrid sport cars have huge potential, if a manufacture could just get it right.
I would like to see it happen with the engine still driving the wheels, not just a generator. And a setup similar to the prius with one electric motor between the engine and trans, rather than multiple motors, to keep the weight down. But, its still going to be excess weight, so it doesn't stand much of a chance of being a light, tossable sports car. |
I dont support electric cars that plug simply into an "outlet". They are basically getting people to pay more money for a false sense of environmentalism. But really its not helping at all since electricity doesn't grow on trees, but most of it is produced from coal burning power plants. I do like the idea of a car that self produces a recharge for its batteries though.
I talked to a guy who worked with Mazda's production team in America and he simply put it this way about the future of rotaries. Car manufactures need a certain amount of fuel efficient cars in their lineup to meet manufacturing regulations. Once Mazda can build a good steady lineup of cars with the sky active tech, they can then begin to build another rotary sports car. |
CAFE standards will require increasing mpg for new cars. So unless you think mazda can make a rotary "sportscar" thats get those high mpg numbers you may want to keep dreaming. Seriously guys, every year there's another thread about how Mazda is "bringing back the rotary sportscar." Not gonna happen people.
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We will have to see what happens. I would like a hybrid set up like my hemi. Full power unless on interstate and cut four cylinders off but just run on electric motor on interstate while maintianing a constant speed. I know rotorys dont get the best gas milege but who knows what high tech wizardry they can add.
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Originally Posted by TheJon
(Post 11208635)
I dont support electric cars that plug simply into an "outlet". They are basically getting people to pay more money for a false sense of environmentalism. But really its not helping at all since electricity doesn't grow on trees, but most of it is produced from coal burning power plants.
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Originally Posted by Brigdh
(Post 11209624)
Coal burning power plants are cleaner and more efficient than any ICE, so its not really the scam you make it out to be.
the government just likes to give the false impression that we are doing good, so they can reduce the cost of making money :icon_tdow |
Originally Posted by Bryan Jacobs
(Post 11208639)
CAFE standards will require increasing mpg for new cars. So unless you think mazda can make a rotary "sportscar" thats get those high mpg numbers you may want to keep dreaming. Seriously guys, every year there's another thread about how Mazda is "bringing back the rotary sportscar." Not gonna happen people.
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Thats right!
Thats why chevrolet bought daewoo.. so can still produce the corvette and camaro |
Message to Mazda,
I'd buy a wankle hybrid. In fact, I'll hold off buying any new car until your wankle hybrid is available. |
Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7
(Post 11210341)
Message to Mazda,
I'd buy a wankle hybrid. In fact, I'll hold off buying any new car until your wankle hybrid is available. I'll stick to my 18mpg hwy! |
Good news is that Mazda's strategy has been to improve fuel economy while keeping some style. So I doubt they will be confused for a prius any time soon.
Sadly, this setup relegates the rotary to generator duty and never puts power to the wheels directly. All the high-revving noises, powerband, tuning potential are gone. Basically you're buying a re-styled chevy volt where a portion of the purchase price goes to mazda's Rotary R&D dept. I'll still consider it though. |
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