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RotaryBuffalo 09-05-09 04:21 PM

LED gauge cluster
 
i was wondering if anyone had replaced the gauge cluster bulbs with LEDs? i searched but could only find it done to FDs. Would this be hard to do?


http://i30.tinypic.com/5myhbt.jpg

EJayCe996 09-05-09 04:26 PM

All of the lights plug into the back of the gauge cluster, all you really have to do is remove the cluster surround, unbolt the gauge cluster, remove, and take out the bulbs on the back of the cluster. They make direct replacement LEDs so there isn't really anything "difficult" about it.

RotaryBuffalo 09-05-09 10:39 PM

ok cool thanks for the info

Hypertek 09-05-09 11:32 PM

has anyone done that successfully? some clusters, if you put LED retrofit bulbs, will have hotspots because the LEDs dont disperse the same way as standard bulbs so you typically have to build a chain of LEDs around to light everything up.

Grappler 09-06-09 12:40 AM

If you had some sort of lens or diffuser it might work better. I don't know how much room you have to play with though.

fstbckgt 12-12-09 11:20 PM

arent FC clusters lit from the front?

clokker 12-12-09 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by fstbckgt (Post 9675566)
arent FC clusters lit from the front?

No.
There's a diffuser that carries light from the back and tries to spread the illumination to the bottom front but no direct lighting up front.

As nice as the posted pic looks, keep in mind we don't have illuminated needles, so the effect won't be as striking.

fstbckgt 12-13-09 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 9675576)
No.
There's a diffuser that carries light from the back and tries to spread the illumination to the bottom front but no direct lighting up front.

As nice as the posted pic looks, keep in mind we don't have illuminated needles, so the effect won't be as striking.

I see

w.sen 12-13-09 01:51 PM

https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=17054


later ill take a night image... i scooped these ebay faces for 20 bucks or so..

kustomizingkid 12-13-09 03:35 PM

The best way to do it is to wire in strips of LED's in around the perimeter... that is what I plan to do.

ICEY? 12-13-09 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by w.sen (Post 9676249)
https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=17054


later ill take a night image... i scooped these ebay faces for 20 bucks or so..

my car came with that. i riped it out right away.

w.sen 12-13-09 05:52 PM

^^ oo my cluster was a lil messed up when i got my 7 soo i figured i might as well put something differant


https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=18362

ya know there is a differroute with the leds.. find a 12v switched when the lights come on remove the regular bulbs.. back light them with white leds...

i used a led as a key hole light there was no bulb in mine if u cant find a 12v led in a color u want, i found out that use of a 560 ohm resistor with a 4volt led works just fine.

Hypertek 12-13-09 05:58 PM

if only someone would make those reverse glows without the stuff in the middle/inside, id be all for them. But like others said here, our needles dont light up =(

w.sen 12-13-09 06:03 PM

i belive there is a way to use uv leds and a light touch of uv paint to make the needles glow..


i panited my needles black like a dumb.. and sometimes i have trouble seeing them.. i got used to it now but at first it was rough

SmogSUX 12-13-09 06:14 PM

Also don't the LED burn a LOT hotter? I was talking to a distributor about some of them and he said they're okay for like turn signals and stuff that doesn't just stay on constantly since they get hot and can possibly melt shit.

w.sen 12-13-09 06:27 PM

leds are cool to the touch... when the burn out the dont melt or anything... they flicker a differant color and have a funky electric fire smell and thats it... i did it with a 3.5v led and a nine 9volt battery....

fstbckgt 12-15-09 03:57 AM

can't wait until someone does a write up for leds in a stock cluster with lit needles, some how.

clokker 12-15-09 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by fstbckgt (Post 9679783)
can't wait until someone does a write up for leds in a stock cluster with lit needles, some how.

Probably not going to happen.
-Gauges that come with illuminated needles have the light transfer "structure" (for lack of a better word) tightly integrated into the mechanism proper...it's not something easily retrofit into an old gauge.

-Assuming the above could be overcome (and it really can't, but...), removing and replacing gauge needles- especially the long, fast response ones in the tach/speedo- is nearly impossible to do successfully. Even with gauges where needle removal was an actual service requirement (like the Smith's gauges found in classic British cars), there was only about a 50-50 chance they'd work right afterwards.
Our gauges are not intended to be disassembled to that degree.

To get that sort of look you'd either have to adapt/modify a gauge cluster from a car that came with it or just make a panel with suitable aftermarket gauges (probably the easiest way to go).

WingsofWar 12-15-09 12:23 PM

:uhh:

http://i38.tinypic.com/1qphlk.jpg

FC3S Murray 12-15-09 12:43 PM

^
HAHAHAHa LOL that is funny!! :)

ultrataco 12-15-09 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9680425)
:uhh:

That looks great!


how did you get the needles to light up?

clokker 12-15-09 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by ultrataco (Post 9680985)
That looks great!


how did you get the needles to light up?

He didn't.
That's an entirely new cluster-NOT a modified stock part- from someplace in Japan.

blwn rtr 89' 12-15-09 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9680425)

where can i get one?

ehime 12-15-09 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by blwn rtr 89' (Post 9681329)
where can i get one?


Japan. And the company that made them went outta business about 6 years
ago so.... GL /W that shit. :icon_tup:

blwn rtr 89' 12-15-09 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by ehime (Post 9681341)
Japan. And the company that made them went outta business about 6 years
ago so.... GL /W that shit. :icon_tup:


do you at least have a company name, and the name of the product?

Grappler 12-16-09 01:19 AM

Its a company called cyberstork.... and no they are very much still in buisness

http://www.cyberstork.com/english/

http://www.cyberstork.com/index.html

They even have an ebay store but I can't link it (forum rules)

look up cyberstork-usa on ebay

WingsofWar 12-16-09 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 9681226)
He didn't.
That's an entirely new cluster-NOT a modified stock part- from someplace in Japan.

actually no, it is the stock cluster modified...not a new cluster...iv been meaning to to a write up one of these days probably in the spring for S4s

Brody8877 12-16-09 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by ehime (Post 9681341)
Japan. And the company that made them went outta business about 6 years
ago so.... GL /W that shit. :icon_tup:

This was posted up recently, it was made by cyberstork.


Originally Posted by blwn rtr 89' (Post 9681449)
do you at least have a company name, and the name of the product?

http://www.cyberstork.com/

blwn rtr 89' 12-16-09 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9682410)
actually no, it is the stock cluster modified...not a new cluster...iv been meaning to to a write up one of these days probably in the spring for S4s


what did you use for the needles?

i cant seem to find those on cyberstorks page?

The Griffin 12-16-09 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by blwn rtr 89' (Post 9682855)
what did you use for the needles?

i cant seem to find those on cyberstorks page?

They are a flim decal applied to the needles.It's on the site,look a little harder.

E_Dub 12-16-09 08:07 PM

Looks great..I browsed the site, but I can't seem to find the film to replicate that cluster from the previous page.. I like how clean and normal it looks while not being white faced!

w.sen 12-18-09 10:57 PM

thoose needles look sexy ....... i hate my needles at night

FC3S Murray 12-18-09 11:37 PM

good luck trying to get anything from Cyberstork. I went through rhjapan to get a new cluster plastic panel and Cyberstork refused to ship it unless I gave the JAPANESE production ID....they would not accept my VIN even though it contains the manufacturing date which is the same as the Jap production date.

Very frustrating. Might be easier to just get the bulbs though.

blwn rtr 89' 12-19-09 02:51 AM

good thing i have a set of Japanese tags

Hypertek 12-19-09 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 9682410)
actually no, it is the stock cluster modified...not a new cluster...iv been meaning to to a write up one of these days probably in the spring for S4s

ever figure out why its not orange? can the orange be scrapped off the back of the gauges or something?

E_Dub 12-19-09 04:26 PM

It would be pretty rad if all you needed was some paint thinner and paper towel and could wipe the orange off lol

w.sen 12-20-09 10:42 PM

its funny i have had my reverse glow for so long that when i saw the stock faces i miss them..lol

NaturalSmooth 12-21-09 12:11 PM

They have one on E-bay right now. Too bad they are only KM/H. 180 KM/H is only 111 MPH.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-M...item3a55f87d38

http://www.cwrotary.net/images/cluster.jpg

WingsofWar 12-21-09 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Hypertek (Post 9688844)
ever figure out why its not orange? can the orange be scrapped off the back of the gauges or something?

the orange isnt like the FD were its a film that can be sanded down from the back. the orange is stained on the front of the faces and if you try to scrap or sand down the color you would only damage it.

What that white character cluster is is an overlay face, the back side has been scraped out to allow more light to pass through the overlay face making the characters to shine in brighter white than they normally would if just placed over the stock cluster.

Slow Rotor 12-21-09 05:33 PM

Had a look at that one on ebay, and its not light up needles

Battle Cat 12-25-09 01:09 AM

any more pics ?

RHDturboII 12-27-09 02:40 PM

Here is mine

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/DSC00884.jpg

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/DSC00946.jpg

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/o...7/IMG_1980.jpg

Hypertek 12-27-09 03:31 PM

kinda oldschool ferrari-ish =P

t2 boost brotha 12-31-09 07:54 AM

knigts cluster km miles
 
dame that knights cluster is what i have been looking for yu have to tell me were they or yu got it from

E_Dub 12-31-09 01:30 PM

lol that knightsports 260km/h is stock canadian speedo limit..

RHDturboII 12-31-09 05:24 PM

Yeah that knightsports speedometer is almost the same as the Canadian and European 260km ones. The only difference is that the knightsports reads 272km lol...I got it to replace the 180km on my jdm fc. The dress up parts are from cyberstork. The chrome rings, the silver face, led stock replacement lights and clear plastic panel. They look much better at night in reality than in the picture.


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