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owenwes 04-20-12 10:45 PM

Gauge Cluster
 
Hey guys, I have been searching for info on this but have came up with nothing, just a lot of general na to turbo swaps! My question is, can a s5 turbo gauge cluster work in a na s5? Does it in general fit and operate right when installed?

HOZZMANRX7 04-20-12 11:22 PM

Yes. You just need to swap out the oil/boost module for the NA's oil/Amp module for the obvious reason.

Derekcat 04-20-12 11:28 PM

Or you could trade me.... :D

RotaryEvolution 04-20-12 11:28 PM

i assume he is putting it into a turbo swapped car though, in which case there is some rewiring involved as the non turbo models had no boost gauge and hence no wiring to the pressure sensor for the boost gauge to operate.

most people just use the n/a cluster because it is more informative anyways, the boost gauge doesn't really tell you anything aside from "we're pushing something, we don't know how much though!"

i did one proper swap into a series 4 and it was kind of a pain in the ass.

owenwes 04-20-12 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 11063138)
Yes. You just need to swap out the oil/boost module for the NA's oil/Amp module for the obvious reason.

I havent dealt with a rx7 gauge cluster yet, is there soldering involved in that?

RotaryEvolution 04-20-12 11:32 PM

Hozz is on crack, don't mind him. ;)

if you have a turbo cluster and an n/a cluster in front of you, you already have what he mentioned in doing. but the wiring is missing for the boost gauge in the main front dash harness. you will have to run a new wire for it from the connector behind the RF kick panel inside the cabin from the engine harness.

just pull up the factory wiring diagram from the chassis section in the FSM for the series 5 for turbo and non turbo for the cluster, you will see what you need to do once you get to the pinout section for the 2 round connectors and then the XM-2 jumper at the RF interior.

owenwes 04-20-12 11:35 PM

I was actually hoping to put in a jdm gauge cluster since my cluster has gone bad!(yes I have seen the normal problem and fixes on the general) I like the fact that they are kmh!

RotaryEvolution 04-20-12 11:39 PM

then you're on your own. no jspec manuals that i have ever come across or know if the pins match up to the USDM harness.

probably is the same, but don't quote me or point a finger if you let the smoke out.

if you get super bored it is not that difficult to trace these antique silicon trace boards out and compare versus a USDM counterpart. newer cramped digital display clusters, not so much.

owenwes 04-20-12 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 11063152)
Hozz is on crack, don't mind him. ;)

if you have a turbo cluster and an n/a cluster in front of you, you already have what he mentioned in doing. but the wiring is missing for the boost gauge in the main front dash harness. you will have to run a new wire for it from the connector behind the RF kick panel inside the cabin from the engine harness.

just pull up the factory wiring diagram from the chassis section in the FSM for the series 5 for turbo and non turbo for the cluster, you will see what you need to do once you get to the pinout section for the 2 round connectors and then the XM-2 jumper at the RF interior.

Haha I understand now, way to go for him to make me a newb! I didnt realize the turbo cluster had a boost gauge instead!

owenwes 04-20-12 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 11063161)
then you're on your own. no jspec manuals that i have ever come across or know if the pins match up to the USDM harness.

probably is the same, but don't quote me or point a finger if you let the smoke out.

if you get super bored it is not that difficult to trace these antique silicon trace boards out and compare versus a USDM counterpart. newer cramped digital display clusters, not so much.

Im surprised no one has ever tried to see if they are interchangeable or not on here with the amount of right hand drive civics I have seen! I assumed they were interchangeable with the different gauge clusters I could have used on my msProtege! None of them had useless boost gauges on them!

RotaryEvolution 04-20-12 11:58 PM

everyone and their brother has a civic, the wrecking yards tend to own all the 7's.

Derekcat 04-21-12 02:24 AM

Ahh derp derp. ^_^'
Thanks Karack.

+1 to trace and compare the cluster traces. I've got a friend who did a RHD swap and there were many wiring nightmares for him.. He said he finally switched to all [or was it nearly all?] LHD North America wiring with extensions.

Pettersen 04-21-12 09:37 AM

If you want kmh, why not just get a european cluster? My car was imported from usa, and it now has a european cluster, doesn't seem like there have been any mods to the wiring either.

thethingthatshouldnotbe 04-21-12 12:43 PM

Do all aftermarket! Thats what I did with when I did my swap. Your gauges will be more accurate and if your doing all that work you want to see whats up.

owenwes 04-21-12 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Pettersen (Post 11063399)
If you want kmh, why not just get a european cluster? My car was imported from usa, and it now has a european cluster, doesn't seem like there have been any mods to the wiring either.

Do you have an N/a with a turbo european cluster?

Pettersen 04-22-12 01:26 AM

No, NA car NA european cluster. But it's LHD..


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