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Silverfc88 06-12-08 09:52 PM

BC Racing coilovers installed
 
I got my BC Racing coilovers in the other day and put them on last night. I set the shocks at 20 clicks away from hard and adjusted the height for now until I can get a proper alignment. They weren't that bad to put on. The hardest part for me was removing the old struts and getting the height right on the coilovers.


Made sure everything was tight and put the wheels back on. On the way home it was rubbing like crazy on both front tires and the left rear tire. So today I removed the spacers from the front and raised it a 1/4 inch and the left rear up about the same. The rears are at the same length but the rear left still rubs a little. I don't know why the left does but not the right rear.



The first thing I noticed driving around the base was that the ride felt great! Alot of people where saying how coilovers are harsh for daily driven cars, but I don't see it. Maybe its just that I have spring rates that aren't to high? I know they feel WAY better than the Tokico Blue's/Eibach/Stock strut top combo that I was running for so long. I also noticed the steering felt very tight and very responsive. Going around a traffic circle it felt more planted and it didn't feel like it wanted to sway everywhere.


I haven't had the chance to mess around with the damping adjustment yet, but for now it feels good. I might go a little stiffer though.






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Silverfc88 06-12-08 09:57 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...s/c53d3f76.jpg

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Before


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After
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Picked them up from DriftedFC3S on Teamfc3s.org.

Boosted11 06-12-08 10:06 PM

Dude your car is so hot!!

Just by looking at the pictures, the coilovers look a million times better then those shitty spring setups. I was looking at buying blue tokicko's on rb springs but after looking at the difference and the quality its worth the $400+ extra.

Turbo II Rotor 06-12-08 10:08 PM

How's the height adjustment on the rear? I have Kei Office coilovers on now but I'm bottomed out on the rear and I don't think it's quite low enough. I will have to play with more rear offset.

BTW: Justin is a great guy, you should come out to the freehold meets.

InsomniacFC 06-12-08 10:09 PM

rub
 

Originally Posted by 95nracer (Post 8280372)

I dunno if this will help or not, but on my shocks the part where you attach it at the bottom has to be oriented the right way. One part sticks out further than the other so maybe that could be part of your rubbing issue? I could be completely wrong, but it's something to consider at least.

Silverfc88 06-12-08 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor (Post 8280410)
How's the height adjustment on the rear? I have Kei Office coilovers on now but I'm bottomed out on the rear and I don't think it's quite low enough. I will have to play with more rear offset.

BTW: Justin is a great guy, you should come out to the freehold meets.


Yeah Justin is awesome. I need to get over to his house again to check out his new whip. When is the Freehold meets?


The rears look to have about another 3/4 to go before it bottoms out.

Just took this pic. From my left rear.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...s/da4f1f63.jpg

Eple 06-12-08 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor (Post 8280410)
How's the height adjustment on the rear? I have Kei Office coilovers on now but I'm bottomed out on the rear and I don't think it's quite low enough. I will have to play with more rear offset.

BTW: Justin is a great guy, you should come out to the freehold meets.

Hrmm, my JIC's have tonnes of thread left for the rears, and I'm nearly tucking already..

Silverfc88 06-12-08 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by satanicmechanic (Post 8280411)
I dunno if this will help or not, but on my shocks the part where you attach it at the bottom has to be oriented the right way. One part sticks out further than the other so maybe that could be part of your rubbing issue? I could be completely wrong, but it's something to consider at least.


I know exactly what your talking about. I thought it was funny how it only fits a certain way or it seems that way. I think my issue might be more of a camber issue or uneven left and right camber. I'm going to be ordering the rear links soon anyways to adjust the rear camber better. I just have the rear bar right now, but I don't think its enough.

RE TurboII 06-12-08 11:00 PM

ive noticed on a few FC's ive seen lowered that the rear passenger side will camber more than the driver side when lowering. my links are set totally different on both sides due to this factor. iono might just be me

RETed 06-12-08 11:03 PM

Looking at the old versus new set-up unloaded, is it really like a 3" difference in height???
That's a pretty drastic drop - camber problems in the rear?

Did I read that right -"MADE IN TAIWAN"?


-Ted

Valkyrie 06-12-08 11:07 PM

From the pics, it looks like the ride height is adjustable at two points, which means you could get at least to stock ride height.

So how much $$$$? I really want some coilovers once I have the money, since I'm tired of having "the most body roll I've ever seen on a second-generation RX-7" (according to the accouncer at an autocross a while back...lol).

Silverfc88 06-12-08 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8280590)
Looking at the old versus new set-up unloaded, is it really like a 3" difference in height???
That's a pretty drastic drop - camber problems in the rear?

Did I read that right -"MADE IN TAIWAN"?


-Ted


Yep Made in Taiwan.



It looks like a big difference unloaded, but it isn't that much.


The springs gave the car .8 inch of a drop. I think I went another inch down.


I was searching everywhere for info about the coilovers. Everything I read about them was all positive with great results and customer service.


The guys at BC Racing are easy to get a hold off and they actually called me back with info and stock. 1 year waranty and after that replacement shocks are $95.


But I haven't heard of anybody blowing a shock or having theres leak yet and they have been out for a few years. I know they are big hit with the Subaru and EVO crowd.

No noises or anything and the pillow ball mounts move around fairly easily.

InsomniacFC 06-12-08 11:22 PM

BTW nice car!

MaczPayne 06-12-08 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by RE TurboII (Post 8280582)
ive noticed on a few FC's ive seen lowered that the rear passenger side will camber more than the driver side when lowering. my links are set totally different on both sides due to this factor. iono might just be me

You're not alone. Mine is the same way. It's not noticeable right away, but you can tell.

I'm assuming BC = Buddy Club?

How much did they cost? I wished my GR+ Pros had dampening adjustment on the top!

aznpoopy 06-12-08 11:25 PM

bc racing is not buddy club

bc racing is um... bc racing

they go for $1000 + ship on ebay
cheaper if you are 'in the know'


Originally Posted by maczpayne
How much did they cost? I wished my GR+ Pros had dampening adjustment on the top!

they are on the bottom because your coilovers are inverted monotube... that's usually seen as a good thing. XD

Silverfc88 06-12-08 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Valkyrie (Post 8280597)
From the pics, it looks like the ride height is adjustable at two points, which means you could get at least to stock ride height.

So how much $$$$? I really want some coilovers once I have the money, since I'm tired of having "the most body roll I've ever seen on a second-generation RX-7" (according to the accouncer at an autocross a while back...lol).



Justin has it advertised at $985 shipped. You can also get different spring rates if you want something other than 8/6 springs. http://forum.teamfc3s.org/showthread.php?t=55531


When I first put them on straight from the box the fronts where about the same as I had before and the rears where higher. I had the drop the rear almost 2 inches. You should be able to get stock ride height no problem.

Silverfc88 06-12-08 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by satanicmechanic (Post 8280635)
BTW nice car!

Thanks

Hey are you currently running them? For how long and do you like them so far?

RETed 06-12-08 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by 95nracer (Post 8280626)
It looks like a big difference unloaded, but it isn't that much.

Ah, I see why you took pics of the bottom sections...
Now I understand how everything works.
It looks like the front bottom perches are adjusted all the way short.

BTW, your wheels are Advan Sienas?
Nice car!


-Ted

Silverfc88 06-12-08 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8280691)
Ah, I see why you took pics of the bottom sections...
Now I understand how everything works.
It looks like the front bottom perches are adjusted all the way short.

BTW, your wheels are Advan Sienas?
Nice car!


-Ted


Thanks, yes Advan Siena Gen 1's. :)

Silverfc88 06-13-08 07:53 AM

A friend brought up a good point.




Originally Posted by the mike (Post 941113)
Are you measuring the height then getting back in the car? Don't you sit on the left side?:wink:



Originally Posted by 95nracer
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...thselfslap.gif LoL.. I'm going to take some new measurements today.


I was just talking to another buddy of mine the other day about how I'm going to account for my weight when I go for an alignment. For some reason I totally overlooked it when trying to figure out my rubbing problem on the rear left. I noticed the rubbing is worse on the left front then the right front.

InsomniacFC 06-13-08 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by 95nracer (Post 8280671)
Thanks

Hey are you currently running them? For how long and do you like them so far?

Nah, I have on my car what you took off of yours. Eibach's and tokicos. I got them for $80 from the junkyard.

aznpoopy 06-13-08 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by 95nracer
I was just talking to another buddy of mine the other day about how I'm going to account for my weight when I go for an alignment. For some reason I totally overlooked it when trying to figure out my rubbing problem on the rear left. I noticed the rubbing is worse on the left front then the right front.


Originally Posted by 95nracer
The rears are at the same length but the rear left still rubs a little. I don't know why the left does but not the right rear.

besides the possible alignment issues, you shouldn't go by coilover length to estimate ride height at each corner because its highly unlikely the car weighs a precise 25% on each corner and/or weight is symmetrical left/right.

janky way is to use some objective point on the body symmetrical left/right to measure corner height. commonly ppl will keep spring perch even left/right and raise/lower by shock body length.

proper way is to simply get it corner weighed, picking an averageish height that is acceptable to you

blackedoutFC3S 06-13-08 02:53 PM

ooh wow man your FC is clean! i like that a lot! great job bro

Silverfc88 06-13-08 03:37 PM

Today I had a buddy measure the corners with me sitting in the car and the rear left was about 1/4 shorter then the right and the front left was about an 1/8. I adjusted the rear but left the front alone.

When I drove around with some tape on the fenders it barely touches. Enough to leave some dirt, but not enough to really scuff the tape.


I'll be going for a real alignment real soon!


Thanks!




I was measuring from the center of the wheel to the fender. Making my adjustments by loosening the bottom ring on the shock and using the top rings to turn it up or down. To raise it I would just loosen the bottom ring and leave it there touching the lower ring seat. Then I would unscrew the shock body out of the lower mount until I reached my desired length measuring from the ring seat to the bottom of the lower ring.

ecko 06-13-08 09:53 PM

very nice car man nice and dropped


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