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boostinfc3s 04-06-17 06:18 PM

88 TII overheating on highway issue
 
My TII overheats on the highway or 40-50mph local driving after 15-20 mins. Temps are great when sitting idle and even went through a 2 hour dyno session with no issues at all. Problems arise only with constant load. Could it be:

A. airflow issue - FMIC covers the whole grill area on my OEM s4 bumper
B. thermostat
C. no fan shroud on my electric fan

DC5Daniel 04-06-17 06:31 PM

Most likely A.

Not having a shroud with the efan is not good, but would actually be helping you at speed.

Do you have the factory underbelly tray?

boostinfc3s 04-06-17 06:35 PM

no under tray. i assumed that if it was not an airflow issue because it wouldn't have the issue when i'm driving on the highway, or is that where i've gone wrong?

WANKfactor 04-06-17 06:52 PM

Airflow and possibly blocked/inefficient rad if its only at cruising speeds, when you have an endless supply of free air but constant partial engine load. Id check the ducting first. Make sure air coming through front of car has no where to go but through the rad. If that involves putting undertray on and sealing gaps around the edges with foam or whatever.

DC5Daniel 04-06-17 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by boostinfc3s
no under tray. i assumed that if it was not an airflow issue because it wouldn't have the issue when i'm driving on the highway, or is that where i've gone wrong?

Ding ding ding...this is FC cooling 101, even without a FMIC.

boostinfc3s 04-06-17 07:21 PM

thanks fellas. is the stock undertray the black plastic one or the small metal one?

arghx 04-06-17 07:26 PM

Black plastic tray.

DC5Daniel 04-06-17 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by arghx
Black plastic tray.

Or the aluminum pan coupled with the radiator cooling tray by our friend Landon at LRB Speed :)

boostinfc3s 04-06-17 07:51 PM

that black plastic tray is long gone lol i will check out the LRB one. i know they also sell some heat vents that i also need.

Truenogts88 04-06-17 10:59 PM

What's the normal idle range and temp range? My 88 FC II idles at 850 and the temp needle doesn't go to half way point. Is that normal??

boostinfc3s 04-07-17 04:10 AM

on my s4 cluster, the water temp will sit about 1/8th way up from cold start to warm up (car not moving) however, with my current issue it'll go halfway or maybe even slightly over after 15 mins of driving.

boostinfc3s 04-07-17 04:21 AM

so it seems like lrb is sold out of their under trays, anyone have any suggestions for an alternative?

DC5Daniel 04-07-17 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Truenogts88
What's the normal idle range and temp range? My 88 FC II idles at 850 and the temp needle doesn't go to half way point. Is that normal??

That is normal. S4 temp gauge is normal at 1/4-1/3, S5 normal at 1/2.

RotaryEvolution 04-07-17 11:39 AM

hey guys, i'm going to install a FMIC, i'm going to leave off the undertray and i plan on running an E-fan without a shroud. what do you guys think?

FührerTüner 04-07-17 11:50 AM

How old is your radiator? OEM or aftermarket? I had the same problem. Turned out my radiator was partially clogged. Bought a new koyo, problem solved. Intercooler directly in front of radiator, no tray or ducting.

bpdchief 04-07-17 12:29 PM

Only e-fan you should be running is a 2 speed Ford Taurus, Probe, or similar with a proper thermo switch in place. The undertray is an absolute must. Front Mount Intercooler should not be a problem if you duct everything properly. Without that tray, you will overheat on the highway.

FührerTüner 04-07-17 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by bpdchief (Post 12171802)
Only e-fan you should be running is a 2 speed Ford Taurus, Probe, or similar with a proper thermo switch in place. The undertray is an absolute must. Front Mount Intercooler should not be a problem if you duct everything properly. Without that tray, you will overheat on the highway.

Thats just not true, sorry. It got to 110f here last year and i didnt see temps over 210f with my efan, doing 85mph on the freeway.

Molotovman 04-07-17 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution (Post 12171789)
hey guys, i'm going to install a FMIC, i'm going to leave off the undertray and i plan on running an E-fan without a shroud. what do you guys think?

GREAT idea!

OP, Do you still have A/C? The condenser coil can heat soak and block airflow to the rad even when it is not in use. Get an undertray, and check out your fan situation, some fans can inhibit air flow.

lduley 04-07-17 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Truenogts88
What's the normal idle range and temp range? My 88 FC II idles at 850 and the temp needle doesn't go to half way point. Is that normal??

Yes, if it goes past the 1/4 range, your overheating

DC5Daniel 04-07-17 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by bpdchief
Only e-fan you should be running is a 2 speed Ford Taurus, Probe, or similar with a proper thermo switch in place. The undertray is an absolute must. Front Mount Intercooler should not be a problem if you duct everything properly. Without that tray, you will overheat on the highway.

Sure. If this was 5 years ago. The Taurus fan is probably the WORST efan you can use, besides the Black Magic. It was just one of the first mainstream OEM fans people were hacking into these cars.

FührerTüner 04-07-17 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by DC5Daniel (Post 12171938)
Sure. If this was 5 years ago. The Taurus fan is probably the WORST efan you can use, besides the Black Magic. It was just one of the first mainstream OEM fans people were hacking into these cars.

My ebay fan worked great for the three years i owned my car. it would cool it from 205 to 195 in less than a minute.

Now i sold it and its going to work great for somebody else.

DC5Daniel 04-07-17 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner
My ebay fan worked great for the three years i owned my car. it would cool it from 205 to 195 in less than a minute.

Now i sold it and its going to work great for somebody else.

I'm a efan fan, so I don't doubt it. There's just better out there that what used to be toted as "the best", back in the day.

FührerTüner 04-07-17 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by DC5Daniel (Post 12171945)
I'm a efan fan, so I don't doubt it. There's just better out there that what used to be toted as "the best", back in the day.

Lol.... im a efan fan too. Those OE fans can be so bulky.

boostinfc3s 04-07-17 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Fuhnortoner (Post 12171792)
How old is your radiator? OEM or aftermarket? I had the same problem. Turned out my radiator was partially clogged. Bought a new koyo, problem solved. Intercooler directly in front of radiator, no tray or ducting.

i have a koyo. LBC is out for the next month and i haven't been able to find an under tray alternative yet. going to do a full coolant flush cause the car sat still for 4-5 years.

boostinfc3s 04-07-17 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Molotovman (Post 12171840)
GREAT idea!

OP, Do you still have A/C? The condenser coil can heat soak and block airflow to the rad even when it is not in use. Get an undertray, and check out your fan situation, some fans can inhibit air flow.

no a/c


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