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highwaymadness 09-05-02 05:03 AM

Cost
 
Ok so heres what I'm doing. I have the Haltech E6k, a custom front intercooler, fabricated downpipe-3.5, custom exhaust going to be made when i get the motor all running-same as downpipe, a clutch, radiator, and the essential needs for cooling, and etc for to get it running. what i want to now is how much can I sell it for after all this is completed and a little more mods. New paint job, custom interior. Now i have had people tell me that it will be worth $25000 to $60000, is that true or am i just getting joked around, if it is that much then i am willing to sell between that some where that will be cool. Wont have much driven on it though either. Thanks for all ur help and whatever u reply to this thanks

bermuda20b 09-05-02 05:47 AM

Expect to recoop 50 cents for every dollar you spend.

Attila the Fun 09-05-02 10:06 AM

Re: Cost
 

Originally posted by highwaymadness
Ok so heres what I'm doing. I have the Haltech E6k, a custom front intercooler, fabricated downpipe-3.5, custom exhaust going to be made when i get the motor all running-same as downpipe, a clutch, radiator, and the essential needs for cooling, and etc for to get it running. what i want to now is how much can I sell it for after all this is completed and a little more mods. New paint job, custom interior. Now i have had people tell me that it will be worth $25000 to $60000, is that true or am i just getting joked around, if it is that much then i am willing to sell between that some where that will be cool. Wont have much driven on it though either. Thanks for all ur help and whatever u reply to this thanks
Selling anything is a matter of finding the right buyer at the right time. My car has been advertised for over a year at $39,900. I hear a lot of when-I-win-the-lottery stories.

hawk 7 09-05-02 10:22 AM

I don't know how much you could get but I don't think you will get near the amount of money you put in to your project. A lot of people will tell you that they would buy it for that price but when it comes time to put up the money there is always some excuse.

This is a very special project you are building and you have to find the right buyer. You have to think unless someone is into rx-7 and into the second gen they will not understand the uniqueness of your project. And the guys that do understand are convinced that it does not cost that much and they can do it cheaper. Case and point when Attila offered to sell you his car. You probably thought either you could do it cheaper or there were things you wanted to do differently. And that is what you are going to run into when you try to sell your project.

There is a guy where I live that has a civic that is sponsored by a major company and has won many shows. Parts and labor he supposidly has about 60K into the car. It is up for sale, do you think anyone in there right mind would pay 60K for a civic. And if they do have that type of money to spend on a project such as that they will want to do it themselves.

I think projects such as this should be done for your enjoyment I don't think you will be able to turn a profit on it, but I may be wrong.
:cool:

Kurgan 09-05-02 11:13 AM

Turn a profit on a 20B FC install!??? HA! More like, take a second mortgage out :D

j9fd3s 09-05-02 12:07 PM


Originally posted by Kurgan
Turn a profit on a 20B FC install!??? HA! More like, take a second mortgage out :D
i think i could get about 10-15k for mine, but thats what i have into it, chito has been trying to sell his for 25k for a long time too. the mariah car (its a 19,000mile 10ae) sold for low 20's

mike

highwaymadness 09-05-02 12:28 PM

I think ur all right but my friend told me this- that even if i do sell it for a big price there isnt much 2nd gens with 20b's out here in hawaii. he said maybe a tupid rich kid with money would buy it but maybe not, maybe someone who is looking for the exact same car with that engine, he just says dont go crazy on the price and i could possibly get what i want. Just like u guys said i have to find the right buyer.i was hoping a little over $26000 but between $30000. I will put a lot of work into it, and the only driving i will do is to and from work maybe if i still have my sisters car to use, that is like 2 miles from my house and 2 miles back. the most i wil pu on it is the test drive.

Wargasm 09-05-02 01:21 PM

Nobody should build a 20B with any hope of turning a profit. I think that even breaking even would be remarkable. I'm just starting on one right now... I think I'll have close to 20K into the total car by the time it's done, but if I'm LUCKY I could sell it for 10-15k.

Do it for the love of the rotary, not the love of money! :)

B

Attila the Fun 09-05-02 01:53 PM


Originally posted by j9fd3s


i think i could get about 10-15k for mine, but thats what i have into it, chito has been trying to sell his for 25k for a long time too. the mariah car (its a 19,000mile 10ae) sold for low 20's

mike

Perhaps I was mis-informed, but I was told that it went to some guy in Oregon for about $32,000.

j9fd3s 09-05-02 03:11 PM


Originally posted by Attila the Fun


Perhaps I was mis-informed, but I was told that it went to some guy in Oregon for about $32,000.

you may be right, i dont have a bill of sale in front of me, that just what i heard.


mike

Jeff20B 09-05-02 10:32 PM

Don't build a 20B project just to sell it.

highwaymadness 09-06-02 02:57 AM

Well this is what I was thinking. I dont think I will turn right around to sell it but keep modding it and dropping its time at the tracks. A friend of mine is going to make lots of stuff for me, he owns an exhaust shop, He can make whatever, fabricate anything and everything and do it for me for a cheap price, I have already talked with him about it and ade some deals already, I just get him business and he will take care of the rest which I have already gotten him plenty of business. When I plan on selling it, is a race for me on how much I can mod it and sell it for a good settle price before next summer. On my two jobs and plenty hook ups I guarentee I can do plenty maybe by two months before summer, but I do know that what I pay is what i won't get back but whats wrong with asking a high price and putting or best offer. I think theres nothing wrong with asking and doing what u feel is the right price like attila the fun says his car to him is worth 40 g's right, I think it would be worth more to me because its just so nice.

bermuda20b 09-06-02 05:54 AM

I have purposed not added up the bills but the direct out of pocket costs were over 30k and have another 15 coming. You build it as almost no one else has one. I know of only one shop that makes money at it and they build it after you order it.

Attila the Fun 09-06-02 09:39 AM


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I think theres nothing wrong with asking and doing what u feel is the right price like attila the fun says his car to him is worth 40 g's right, I think it would be worth more to me because its just so nice. [/B]
Obviously, you're a gentleman of high intelligence and good taste.

Kurgan 09-06-02 09:42 AM


Originally posted by Attila the Fun


Obviously, you're a gentleman of high intelligence and good taste.

Hey George, you should change your signature. Not many people (unless they frequent this section) know what a 2000 RXX-7 is. You should put something about a 3rotor in your sig, and mention that its for sale. There are some high-ballers on this forum, but most of em hang out in the lounge

p.s. Don't sell your car.

Attila the Fun 09-06-02 10:22 AM


Originally posted by Kurgan


Hey George, you should change your signature. Not many people (unless they frequent this section) know what a 2000 RXX-7 is. You should put something about a 3rotor in your sig, and mention that its for sale. There are some high-ballers on this forum, but most of em hang out in the lounge

p.s. Don't sell your car.

Your message seems conflicted. ;)

I can't imagine that there's anyone who doesn't know what the RXX-7 is. Just kidding.

How's this?

Kurgan 09-06-02 12:27 PM

There ya go! changed the sig :D

I dunno how I'm conflicted... just because red is green today and its gonna snow yesterday.

Yes, I'm on crack today.

raH!!!!

hawk 7 09-06-02 12:32 PM


Originally posted by bermuda20b
I have purposed not added up the bills but the direct out of pocket costs were over 30k and have another 15 coming. You build it as almost no one else has one. I know of only one shop that makes money at it and they build it after you order it.
What shop is that, and do you have a web address for them??

highwaymadness 09-06-02 12:39 PM

Your right bermuda20b I do seem like I am building it like noone else has it. But have you ever been to Hawaii and seen the cars here, all there is is rich people with lots of money that just spend it, out of all the rx7's ive seen out here which pretty much every one ive met the owner they only have 13b's and most werent even highly modded, a lot of rich kids out here look for a car thats modified already. My friend just sold his 1994 honda accord w/ h22 drop with full build, supercharged and everythin on his car was from japan-he sod it for almost 30g's, it was like 26g's or something like that, I feel I have a good chance at selling it but oh well, we'll see.

Kurgan 09-06-02 01:42 PM


Originally posted by hawk 7


What shop is that, and do you have a web address for them??

I suppose it would be Pettit Racing.

www.pettitracing.com

As far as I know, they only deal with 3rd gens...

bermuda20b 09-07-02 06:22 PM

Yes it is Pettit. Cam is very knowledgable and helped me with my 3rd gen. Pettit has built a reputation based upon his ability to produce a quality product (boy I hope he reads this).

I have been to Hawaii and seen the cars. They don't touch anything like what you see in Miami (Pettit's shop is based near by).

Please take no offense to this but If I wanted to get a 3 rotor as a turn key I would go to shiop with a reputation...not to a builder without one. If you can afford a 3 rotor, what is an extra 10 or 20k.

Your market for a properly built 3 rotor rx is an individual with high disposable income so going to the mainland to get a properly built car shouldn't be of any concern.

As I have stated elsewhere, there are three things about racing,

-speed
-realiabiltiy
-cost

You only get to pick two!
(ok, off my soapbox)

highwaymadness 09-08-02 03:15 AM

The builder does have a reputation, a good one as a matter of fact, when u were here did u get wind of exhaust systems hawaii, well if not, there are three shops on the island that makes plenty business. I dont take no offense to anything, I just gather all kinds of information and use it all around of what i have learned. If u dont mind me sayin, u give plenty good information and is useful, mainland of course would be a good place to build a car but where-mideast-west or what-its hard finding those in such a big place, why waste my time on that when i can get japan parts for cheaper and better performance, especially when u have realtives and plenty friends that live there. I am not trying to say that mainland is a stupid idea but am sayin for me it is hard to get in touch in the mainland with people who u dont know and dont trust, thats my opinion though, I do agree with ur thoery, but if u have time and make that time useful, then u will succeed in all three objectives.

bermuda20b 09-09-02 07:46 AM

Good luck to you. I have been racing nationally and internationally for over 20yrs and have yet to properly succeed in 'all three objectives'!!

Kurgan 09-09-02 07:06 PM

Did they drop the word "you" from the Hawaii dictionary? :D

RX-Heven 09-09-02 07:25 PM

The only way i can see getting your money back on a 20b transplant, especially going the whole nine yards, is: (a) To find some really good insurance that will cover what you put into it. (b) Total it without getting hurt. (c) Have really good medical insurance "just in case."


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