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Frogman 11-18-22 09:32 PM

Speedometer gear
 
So I'm at wit's end with this speedometer gear issue. My OEM one leaked and trying to fix it, I damaged the OEM bronze gear which led to some funky speedo behavior. Carl was kind enough to give me his gear and that fixed my speedo, but I'm still having leaking issues because I can't source the collar. The external AND internal O ring is NLA, and no one makes the correct size, my attempt to make a custom one resulted in me getting the bullet stuck and damaging my gear. For late 79 and 80+ Mazda switched the design of the collar and I can get the correct internal O ring and external O ring. I found this collar 101117442A ( it is a collar, that fits a few Mazda cars including a 89-92 rx7 automatic, Jim Ellis Mazda says it supersedes the other part but can't find it anywhere else ), I need 101117442. Does anyone know where I can obtain this part?

Frogman 11-30-22 09:30 PM

So I finally tracked the parts down after much research.
The gear and roller pin were gifted to me by @Carl almost a year ago which was the hardest part to find.
The collar and gaskets were bought from mazda.
My final question is what direction does this gasket go ?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...5480655fb5.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...5369a43d96.jpg
Does the Flat end face towards the trans or away from it ?

Benjamin4456 11-30-22 10:50 PM

The flat side faces outwards, away from the transmission just like any oil seal. By flat I'm referring to the bottom of the "U" shaped profile of the seal, so the side that is one continuous section, not the two "rings" separated by a channel - mentioning this as both sides could be interpreted as "flat". Normally it's easy to just say "the side without the spring", but those seals don't have one :).

Frogman 11-30-22 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Benjamin4456 (Post 12542365)
The flat side faces outwards, away from the transmission just like any oil seal. By flat I'm referring to the bottom of the "U" shaped profile of the seal, so the side that is one continuous section, not the two "rings" separated by a channel - mentioning this as both sides could be interpreted as "flat". Normally it's easy to just say "the side without the spring", but those seals don't have one :).

I figured . I tapped it in with flat tube and it slid down nicely and got stuck there .

yeti 12-01-22 12:16 PM

Can these be 3d printed?

Benjamin4456 12-01-22 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by yeti (Post 12542415)
Can these be 3d printed?

The gear itself probably could be, but not the other components.

Frogman 12-01-22 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by yeti (Post 12542415)
Can these be 3d printed?

You can build your own , the only issue is you need the gear and if you have the gear you probably have the rest of it .
I have no idea how to take the gear apart though . Maybe you can make a 3d part that's all plastic but i don't know how strong it would be.
If any one can source us the GEAR you would be able to build your own . The miata one does not work BTW , the threads are pitched the wrong way.

No one has this part , i have asked high and low and found one guy selling me a broken one for 100$ but it was the old school one.

chirmstream 12-02-22 08:43 PM

I just replaced the o ring and seal when I did my clutch a few months ago. There is a pin you have to drive out, and then the speedometer gear slides right off the shaft it rides on.

Frogman 12-02-22 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by chirmstream (Post 12542542)
I just replaced the o ring and seal when I did my clutch a few months ago. There is a pin you have to drive out, and then the speedometer gear slides right off the shaft it rides on.

The gear gear or the gear with the shaft? I

chirmstream 12-02-22 08:46 PM

The plastic gear driving the speedo cable

Frogman 12-02-22 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by chirmstream (Post 12542544)
The plastic gear driving the speedo cable

so you can separate the gear head from the shaft ?
I know you can remove the gear with its shaft by removing a pin from the assembly but not the gear from the shaft.

chirmstream 12-02-22 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Frogman (Post 12542545)
so you can separate the gear head from the shaft ?
I know you can remove the gear with its shaft by removing a pin from the assembly but not the gear from the shaft.

I apologize I think you’re right. The shaft is pressed into the gear isn’t?

Frogman 12-02-22 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by chirmstream (Post 12542547)
I apologize I think you’re right. The shaft is pressed into the gear isn’t?

Yes sadly . I can't find it ( the gear and shaft) anywhere :/.
The messed up part is the fact we can get the miata gear in 17 teeth but it has the gear pitch going the wrong way .

JGarcia 12-03-22 10:15 AM

The oring and the seal are available through atkins rotary. https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/7...8-60-8166.html
I think if you messed up the gear you can use a gear from a fc. Just would have to use both gears because it has a different pitch.

Frogman 12-03-22 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by JGarcia (Post 12542592)
The oring and the seal are available through atkins rotary. https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/7...8-60-8166.html
I think if you messed up the gear you can use a gear from a fc. Just would have to use both gears because it has a different pitch.

The outer seal does not fit the original design . If you have a early 79 or 80 rx7 you have the old design , those seals don't fit. Atkins says ALL 79's do but they are wrong.I'm a bit upset at them right now over another issue. Very disappointed .


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