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challer2000 02-27-08 03:22 PM

SA owners with REWINDS
 
My rims and tires are going on around April. I have seen in a search that one SA owner had a problem with the tire rubbing the spring in the front. It was corrected by the Re-speed coil-over kit. I am wondering if any other SA owners with rewinds have had this problem, or any SA owners running rewinds with no problems on stock applications.

Thanks,
Chris

GO SOX!!! 02-27-08 03:45 PM

I too Iam very interested as I plan on running rewinds once my SA is back on the road.

ourxseven 02-27-08 03:54 PM

more interest here too .

I bought BFG 195/55/15's with a section width of 7.9 " for the Rewinds . This compares to stock size 13" Yokohama Avid section width of 7.1" .

Wondering if the new 15" BFG will clear the stock SA strut/spring or will need a coil over kit in front.

robs_seven 02-27-08 05:39 PM

I have Konig rewinds on my 79 sa and not a problem for me i will see what the tire size is and get you some pics this evening

challer2000 02-27-08 06:50 PM

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Thanks robs_seven!

I know the BF's I'm looking at tire width is 8.4" (205/50/15) but may need to go smaller

robs_seven 02-27-08 08:53 PM

Hey sorry for the sideways pics i spent 20mins rotating them and the forum still takes them in on a landscape layout


but the tires are 195/50/R15 Kumhos

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...n/P2270462.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...n/P2270459.jpg

Wikid79Sa 02-27-08 08:57 PM

My rewinds on Kumho Ecsta ASX tires (205/50/15) were the ones that interfered with the springs. They have a section width of 8.4". I might just have had very saggy springs. Two other issues were getting new lug bolts( or more sensible studs) and grinding off some of the spring perch which was too close to the sidewall for my taste. Good luck and a good choice.

Rick

robs_seven 02-27-08 09:03 PM

i got the exact same tires Ecsta Asx but a 195/50 and yes i did have to get the lugbolts off a 81-83 car they are shorter. I did that for a while then got a set of studs that i lock tighted in and have lug nuts, which worked out nice. I also got a set of hub rings off line which made if alot easier in mounting. The size was 59.5-59.6mm inside diameter and 73-73.1mm outside diameter

ourxseven 02-27-08 09:14 PM

Thanks guys, a big help for me .

Robseven, i looked up the specs on the kuhmo 195/50/50's at tirerack and both tires listed had a section width of 7.9". This is the same as the BFG 195/55/15's I bought . So I guess they should clear and I don't have to install the coil over kit I'm buying from ReSpeed right away. This was very helpful.:icon_tup: :icon_tup:

ourxseven 02-27-08 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by robs_seven (Post 7918910)
i got the exact same tires Ecsta Asx but a 195/50 and yes i did have to get the lugbolts off a 81-83 car they are shorter. I did that for a while then got a set of studs that i lock tighted in and have lug nuts, which worked out nice. I also got a set of hub rings off line which made if alot easier in mounting. The size was 59.5-59.6mm inside diameter and 73-73.1mm outside diameter

don't suppose you have a picture of the hub rings ? , where did you get them ( ebay?)

robs_seven 02-27-08 10:07 PM

http://justforwheels.com/index.jsp?c...=how&track=GHR

here is the link and i got the composite ones not the aluminum. The composite ones hold up very well

Vashner 02-27-08 10:54 PM

Oh man I need a set of those rims and tires....

I think the Goodyears on Rusty are the original 25 year old tires lol.

tallbozo 02-28-08 12:40 AM

Yeah Rewinds...Absolutely love these wheels on these cars...

ourxseven 02-28-08 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by robs_seven (Post 7919190)
http://justforwheels.com/index.jsp?c...=how&track=GHR

here is the link and i got the composite ones not the aluminum. The composite ones hold up very well

rob7, I measured 58 mm inner diameter and 77 mm outer diameter on my konig . Is that what you ordered? . That link did not seem to have that size.

robs_seven 02-28-08 08:16 PM

Hubcentric Rings with an inner diameter of 59.6 and an outer diameter of 73.1

Set of (4) Hubcentric rings


Plastic Hubcentric Rings with an inner diameter of 59.6 and an outer diameter of 73.1
$39.95


http://justforwheels.com/index.jsp?I...cat=hubcentric



Also most positive thats what i got, had to do some searching for it but should work perfect. The only other thing i could do would pull off my wheels and see if i can still read the numbers but it would not be until later this weekend till i had time to do that.

djjjr42 02-28-08 09:47 PM

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If you're looking to buy these just remember these are for more for looks than performance. I have a set and they are 10lbs heavier apiece (w/tire) than the FB "+" wheels. Also after taking spirited runs at DGRR last year in the mountains, they seemed to have stretched a bit, as the center caps don't fit as snugly as they did when I first installed them. I had to use some friction tape on one to make it stay in to my satisfaction.

Definitely go for the hub rings, because if you happen to lose a lug while driving, the other 3 will work themselves out in short order. It happened to me and I was lucky that it was on the rear and the drum assembly just dropped straight down and I didn't lose the wheel or control of the car. Good thing it wasn't the front!

robs_seven 02-29-08 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by djjjr42 (Post 7923457)
Definitely go for the hub rings, because if you happen to lose a lug while driving, the other 3 will work themselves out in short order. It happened to me and I was lucky that it was on the rear and the drum assembly just dropped straight down and I didn't lose the wheel or control of the car. Good thing it wasn't the front!



Same thing happened here, put them on with out hub rings took it out late at night and only made about 50 feet from my driveway and then bang on dragging the rear rotor and the wheel was in the ditch. These are a must and also i recommend you get studs and use lugnuts just to keep everything consistent and to avoid using to long of wheel bolts

ourxseven 02-29-08 09:16 AM

this is some good feedback for the Konigs I didn't think about .... although I should have.

Last year I bought some ASA alloy rims for our 2002 protege and they vibrated after balancing . I took the wheel off an realized the mechanic didn't put the hub rings on supplied with the rims. When they were put back on the problem went away

Glad this thread got started , thanks Challer

challer2000 02-29-08 12:04 PM

ourxseven,
No problem, I’m glad we have such a good club where everyone is willing to help out and give us valuable information. I’m glad the questions where answered before I ordered my tires now with this information I’ll have to look for 195/50/15 and hub rings to insure that there are no issues.

This might be a good archived thread for other SA owners that are thinking about Koing rims.






Originally Posted by djjjr42 (Post 7923457)
If you're looking to buy these just remember these are for more for looks than performance. I have a set and they are 10lbs heavier apiece (w/tire) than the FB "+" wheels. Also after taking spirited runs at DGRR last year in the mountains, they seemed to have stretched a bit, as the center caps don't fit as snugly as they did when I first installed them. I had to use some friction tape on one to make it stay in to my satisfaction.

Definitely go for the hub rings, because if you happen to lose a lug while driving, the other 3 will work themselves out in short order. It happened to me and I was lucky that it was on the rear and the drum assembly just dropped straight down and I didn't lose the wheel or control of the car. Good thing it wasn't the front!

Your rims stretched! That doesn’t seem safe. What is the total weight your rims and tires? When mine where shipped the total weight was 60LBS and I thought that was light for 4 rims and packaging.

ourxseven 02-29-08 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by challer2000 (Post 7925199)
I’m glad the questions where answered before I ordered my tires now with this information I’ll have to look for 195/50/15 and hub rings to insure that there are no issues.

you may want to consider 195/55 like I bought , they still have a pretty good footprint (8.1") and meet spec for a 7" wide rim. They also match the diameter of stock for speedo accuracy

warwickben 02-29-08 05:29 PM

wow thank god i found this page i was about to order a set. found a place that sells them for 450 shipped. if i get studs, and lock tight them in and get Hub centric Rings i should be safe to go right? 59.6 inner and an outer diameter of 73.1 is that what every one agrees the size needed . i was going to order the studs from pineapple racing. which ones should i get. my car is a 1980 .

also iam a tire noob. so what size tire would i need so my "speed-o" will be close to being correct. i know with a car as old as ours its going to be off a little bit. but i did the new trick of driving by those speed sings that also tell you how fast your going. i went by it like 10 times from 15 to 70 and my gauge was dead on believe it or not.
to any one thats going t say i shouldn't speed, the speed limit on that road was 65mph. i did it at 2am so thats how i got away with going 15 mph in a 65mph zone with out pissing people off. i didn't go pass 70 mph because theres no roads around me that have a higher speed limit then that so if iam going faster iam getting a ticket.



(whats the proper term for speed-o)

challer2000 02-29-08 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by ourxseven (Post 7925271)
you may want to consider 195/55 like I bought , they still have a pretty good footprint (8.1") and meet spec for a 7" wide rim. They also match the diameter of stock for speedo accuracy

I get some 55's the only problem is my BFG's only go down to a 205 so I have to find a new tire.

djjjr42 02-29-08 08:11 PM

205/50 is what you need, that's as close as you can get to stock rotational size at least for an FB cause that's what I got.
http://www.tiresizecalculator.info/

Speedometer!:rlaugh:

warwickben 03-01-08 08:21 AM

yeah lol it up . i had a brain fart and couldnt think of the word last night.

ourxseven 03-02-08 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by robs_seven (Post 7923097)
Also most positive thats what i got, had to do some searching for it but should work perfect. The only other thing i could do would pull off my wheels and see if i can still read the numbers but it would not be until later this weekend till i had time to do that.

Rob7,

any chance you were able to confirm the ring dimensions you have ?

djjjr42 03-02-08 04:45 PM

For sure the inner diam of the wheel is 73, hub is like 59.

ourxseven 03-02-08 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by djjjr42 (Post 7931734)
For sure the inner diam of the wheel is 73, hub is like 59.

you sure the SA hub is the same as an 83 ?

robs_seven 03-02-08 07:16 PM

the link that i posted is what you need for a 79 with original running gear. I had the 59.6 I.D and the 73.1 O.D. for my 79 SA with the konig rewinds, as for the FB's im not sure if the size varies or not.

djjjr42 03-02-08 07:24 PM

Well we are talking about less than a millimeter here, so I assume they are the same size for FB and SA. FC & FD hubs are like 67.1.
The rims would be the same, 73 no matter what you're mounting them on. That's per Hikaru at JLB Motorsports, where I bought them. But a difference of less than a mm is probably not gonna matter...

challer2000 04-07-08 09:25 AM

Bringing the post back!


I have been interested in a set of BF Goodrich G-force T/A KDW NT but the smallest size they come in is a 205. I drove a C6 last year that was using these tires and I like how quite, and how responsive the tires are (with out trac turned off). So I talked to discount tire and they told me to come in and do a test fit. They tested a set of Kumho 205/50/15 and when they fit with no issues they assured that the BFGs were the same size. So I ordered a set and they should be on Tuesday or Wednesday. Can't go wrong since they did a test fit and if there are any problems its there fault.

I’ll keep you guys posted. And I’ll post some pics just incase anyone may be interested.


Here is a link to the new tires

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...MTAHZH&rf=true

I really like the tread pattern.

challer2000 04-08-08 05:32 PM

Today I installed the BFGs and had no fitment issues. These 205/50/15 seem to have be a smaller wheel (might be that its more like a slick) but the width is 8.4”. Here are some pics.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0/HPIM0604.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0/HPIM0605.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0/HPIM0606.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0/HPIM0603.jpg

warwickben 04-08-08 05:35 PM

sex

t_g_farrell 04-09-08 03:45 PM

The SA waffle wheels are only 12.5 punds without the tire.

wecycle 04-21-08 01:24 PM

225/50-15
 
What is needed to run 225/50-15 Kumho 710's on an SA?It looks like the issue would be the lower spring perch and the lowest one or two coils of the stock spring.
Will these issues be cleared up with the RE speed coilover kit?
I have the 15x7 Rewinds with 20mm offset which moves the tire 5 mm out.
I am running 215/50-13 BF Goodrich R1's on the waffle wheels and I have about 2mm clearance.
Anyone have good pictures of the clearance with 225's?
Or can you confirm at least 10mm clearance for the 205's?
That would indicate the 225's will clear.
Dennis in Delhi, CA


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