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Directfreak 06-22-02 04:44 PM

New Suspension
 
This is what a New suspension looks like.
(Still in the Boxes though..:( )

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=782085

Eibach Pro-Kit Springs
Tokico Illumina 5 Ways
KYB Boot Covers
Energy Suspension PolyEurethane bushings everywhere
New Mazda Rubber bushings for the Rear
Racing Beat Front Swaybar (Freaking Thick!)
Racing Beat Engine Torque Brace (in the plastic bag on the left)
Hawk Racing Pads front and Rear

Hopefully I'll get it all in this weekend or early this week.
I will post pics of the progress as I go.

inittab 06-22-02 04:52 PM

cool, you got alota work/fun ahead of yerself.

Aico 06-22-02 04:57 PM

Howmuch did it all cost?

Directfreak 06-22-02 05:09 PM


Originally posted by Aico
Howmuch did it all cost?
I don't recall exactly.. Kinda like 750 for everything..

Eibachs and Illumina's - Shox.com
Polyeurethane Bushings - P-S-T.com
Racing Beat Front Swaybar - racingbeat.com
KYB Boot cover - www- P-S-T-.com
Hawk Racing Pads - racingbeat.com
Mazda Rear bushings - Local dealer

REVHED 06-22-02 05:41 PM

What exactly are the KYB boot covers?

Directfreak 06-22-02 06:10 PM


Originally posted by REVHED
What exactly are the KYB boot covers?
They are just to replace the stock factory ones that will likely tear or break when I replace them. They are like 9 bucks. The go over the shock/strut somewhere.

brownmound 07-31-02 11:17 PM

So did you get this setup all in yet? How does it ride now? I am thinking of a similar setup. Seems like the Ebach springs and tokico illuminas are a popular combo. I wanted to do poly bushings as well. Any reason to go rubber in the back as opposed to poly??

Right on.

Directfreak 08-01-02 12:58 AM

It rides incredibly awesome. I can set it from Race Car Stiff to Cadillac soft in less than a minute.

It has a nice predictable balance, and great ride. Well sprung and no leaning. I am sure the sway bar and poly's have helped too.

Oh, and here's my Tokico mod (if you call drilling holes a mod!:D )
Now I can change the rear settings quickly without having to remove the rear panels

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=851815

diabolical1 08-01-02 01:21 AM

congrats on the new suspension!!!! :D
i'm jealous ... hehehehe
how much difference do you feel with the torque brace?

RotorMotorDriver 08-01-02 05:50 AM

Ok, I realize that P-S-T has that front end kit (I've never seen a "kit" for our cars :)), but does that actaully come with "everything" you need to replace? And what about the back end? What all is back there that needs to be replaced?

~T.J.

MIKE-P-28 08-01-02 07:48 AM

Man , can you say this isnt gonna be a sunday driver? LOL

Denny 08-01-02 09:43 AM

So where are the lower control arms? The tie-rods? The new idler arm bushings? To replace the ball-joints you have to replace the lower control arm as the ball-joints are not replaceble....

You're not there yet, Cowboy!

That Retro-Cowboy,
Denny:D

Directfreak 08-01-02 10:42 AM


Originally posted by diabolical1
congrats on the new suspension!!!! :D
i'm jealous ... hehehehe
how much difference do you feel with the torque brace?

I didn't install it. It is waiting patiently to go in with the Cosmo engine. :) I never had any intention of installing it with the SE engine. I just figured that with 3 times the power of a stock SE, I might need it.


Originally posted by RotorMotorDriver
Ok, I realize that P-S-T has that front end kit (I've never seen a "kit" for our cars :)), but does that actaully come with "everything" you need to replace? And what about the back end? What all is back there that needs to be replaced?

~T.J.

Yes. You have to call them though, and have them go through everything with them on the phone.


Originally posted by Denny
So where are the lower control arms? The tie-rods? The new idler arm bushings? To replace the ball-joints you have to replace the lower control arm as the ball-joints are not replaceble....

You're not there yet, Cowboy!

That Retro-Cowboy,
Denny:D

:D

Actually Denny, I am almost there, the Tie Rods, and idler arm bushings I have. I am goint to take it to a suspension shop for them to swap what I couldn't, since I need to align it immediately afterwards.

I have the lower control arms from the "Donor" car and we cut out all the rubber. I have new ones to go in using the old brackets, etc - but I will do that at the suspension shop too. I am not too confident,

The car feels TIGHT AS HELL. I want a strut tower brace as well, but I will have to wait to see the clearance problems with the new engine's intake.

Manntis 08-01-02 02:31 PM

I've asked P-S-T about the front end - they seem confused by the inquiry and tried to sell me Ford parts instead. "Well, they do own Mazda now so mebbe it'll fit..."

Manntis 08-01-02 06:32 PM

Just got the front & rear Racing Beat swaybars & poly bushings including new end link bushings... this oughta be fun :)

brownmound 08-01-02 07:13 PM


Originally posted by Directfreak
It rides incredibly awesome. I can set it from Race Car Stiff to Cadillac soft in less than a minute.

It has a nice predictable balance, and great ride. Well sprung and no leaning. I am sure the sway bar and poly's have helped too.

Oh, and here's my Tokico mod (if you call drilling holes a mod!:D )
Now I can change the rear settings quickly without having to remove the rear panels

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=851815

So like the ride isn't too harsh with the poly bushings and the stiff springs? I've heard the poly bushings can makes things quite harsh and jarring. Austin has a lot of shitty roads downtown and and the like that I absolutely hate driving on now. But boy does it have it's share of twisty assed hillies as well!:D I'm looking for a comprimise, something I can throw around the corners but that wont knock my teeth out on the way to the grocery. I'm sure my shocks and struts are worn to hell as it is being 18 years old, so maybe it'll feel about the same. I just don't want to sink a bunch of money into something I wont be happy with later on.

Right on....I'm about to order this stuff finally!

Directfreak 08-01-02 09:12 PM


Originally posted by brownmound
So like the ride isn't too harsh with the poly bushings and the stiff springs?
As hard or as soft as you want. I have it on "3" in the front, and "2" in the rear. It feels like a NEW CAR. quiet, well dampened, and very predictable.


Originally posted by brownmound
I've heard the poly bushings can makes things quite harsh and jarring.
It doesn't feel this way to me, but my suspension was 17 years old, and the rears where totally gone before.


Originally posted by brownmound
I'm looking for a comprimise, something I can throw around the corners but that wont knock my teeth out on the way to the grocery.
Again, it's up to you with this setup. "1" is very plush, "5" is very stiff. The Eibachs are progressive rate springs, so I think that's why the combination feels so well.


Originally posted by brownmound
I'm sure my shocks and struts are worn to hell as it is being 18 years old, so maybe it'll feel about the same.
Ask anybody with the same setup. Eibach springs and 5 way illuminas. I am sure nobody is unhappy. I am telling you, it feels like a new car by comparison.

I have been fucking around taking 90 degree turns at 40mph, (and climbing) and it feels like a cat. Money well spent.

I did it because mine needed replacement anyway. Maybe yours doesn't. But since I am building my car to RUN, I had to get her good shoes. (Racing Tires are next)

Directfreak 08-01-02 09:15 PM

The sway bar was a *bitch* to put in though.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897197

Manntis 08-01-02 09:43 PM

tsk tsk... under a jacked car with the jack stand just sitting there... :)

Denny 08-01-02 09:58 PM

Love the Garage shot! Kinda neat seein' someone else buried beneath a Seven.

Good Work, Good Job...
Go to it, Cowboy!

Denny,
From the 'ol corncrib...:p:

RotorMotorDriver 08-01-02 10:34 PM

Eeewww...Is that an Eclipse in the pic?? :) Just kidding, I like the old body styles, but I just cant seem to get the new one into my head, it just doesnt look right for some reason :).

~T.J.

REVHED 08-01-02 10:49 PM


Originally posted by brownmound


So like the ride isn't too harsh with the poly bushings and the stiff springs? I've heard the poly bushings can makes things quite harsh and jarring. Austin has a lot of shitty roads downtown and and the like that I absolutely hate driving on now. But boy does it have it's share of twisty assed hillies as well!:D I'm looking for a comprimise, something I can throw around the corners but that wont knock my teeth out on the way to the grocery. I'm sure my shocks and struts are worn to hell as it is being 18 years old, so maybe it'll feel about the same. I just don't want to sink a bunch of money into something I wont be happy with later on.

Right on....I'm about to order this stuff finally!

I've got poly bushings all through the front end and the ride is definately a lot harsher than stock. That being said I wouldn't have it any other way. It steers and handles a lot better since the poly bushings help hold the correct alignment settings when cornering.

REVHED 08-01-02 10:57 PM


Originally posted by Directfreak
Actually Denny, I am almost there, the Tie Rods, and idler arm bushings I have. I am goint to take it to a suspension shop for them to swap what I couldn't, since I need to align it immediately afterwards.

I have the lower control arms from the "Donor" car and we cut out all the rubber. I have new ones to go in using the old brackets, etc - but I will do that at the suspension shop too. I am not too confident,

This job is sooo easy if you have a tie rod end seperator. Took me about half a day to swap in new tie rod ends, drop the control arms, press new bushings in and re-install the control arms. The toe settings are easy to retain as well.

Directfreak 08-01-02 11:52 PM


Originally posted by REVHED
This job is sooo easy if you have a tie rod end seperator. Took me about half a day to swap in new tie rod ends, drop the control arms, press new bushings in and re-install the control arms. The toe settings are easy to retain as well.
Yeah, I am sure it is, if you know what you're doing. I am not confident on screwing with steering gear, so I will take it to the shop where they have the tools and experience.

Unless you want to come over and help?:D

MIKE-P-28 08-02-02 12:08 AM


Originally posted by Directfreak
The sway bar was a *bitch* to put in though.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897197

About damn time man, LOL

I just love the fact I have a day set aside to work on my car, and BAM someone comes up wanting their deck, 4 speakers, 2 4 ch amps and a sub box put in :ar: But money is money, so needless to say I got NOTHING done tonite!

Directfreak 08-02-02 12:24 AM

My Mistresses.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897769

My Gang.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897734


Originally posted by RotorMotorDriver
Eeewww...Is that an Eclipse in the pic?? :) Just kidding, I like the old body styles, but I just cant seem to get the new one into my head, it just doesnt look right for some reason :).

~T.J.

Hey, at least it’s a V6 GT – ‘Vert!
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897730

Get Used to this View.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897797


Originally posted by Denny
Love the Garage shot! Kinda neat seein' someone else buried beneath a Seven.

Good Work, Good Job...
Go to it, Cowboy!

For Denny ;)
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=897777

MIKE-P-28 08-02-02 06:44 PM

OMG theres brake fluid on your floor, man what to do what to do ? LOL

Man your garage floor is so clean Id probally eat my #4 from mc donalds on it :)

Directfreak 08-02-02 08:55 PM


Originally posted by MIKE-P-28


OMG theres brake fluid on your floor, man what to do what to do ? LOL

Man your garage floor is so clean Id probally eat my #4 from mc donalds on it :)

Naw, it's engine oil. The oil filter o'ring on the SE engine needs to be replaced. I do clean it every weekend.

Sometimes I have the Number 1 from Micky D's on it,
when I have a Big Mac attack.

knight1976 11-06-02 10:07 PM

Dude your tshirt is awfully clean also.....hmmmmmm me thinks someone is just posing for pics :)

hornbm 11-06-02 10:29 PM


Originally posted by Manntis
tsk tsk... under a jacked car with the jack stand just sitting there... :)
lol.... I was thinking the same thing. Every time we do that in my auto shop class, we allways get a scolding and a shit load of paper work do do for like a week before we can work in the shop again

Manntis 11-07-02 03:04 AM

if all you get is a scolding, rather than the heavy end of a car dropped on top of you, consider yourself lucky.

rollin82 11-07-02 03:21 AM

haha damn i know you guys joked about being drug lords and realestate sellers..... but damn besides food and bills is this all you guys spend on...... sorry im juts jelouse thats all haha but damn i really need to start dontating my fluids or sumthing cause me being full time student wiht 2 PT jobs just isnt giving me the cash flow i need!!!!

but back on the subject... congrats onthe suspension and keep up the good work! :)

RacerX7fb 11-07-02 03:36 AM

Hey nice setup! Just like mine :D
I have a custom strut tower brace though, the RB one is heavy and not legal in CSP.

onepointone 11-07-02 08:19 AM


Originally posted by hornbm


lol.... I was thinking the same thing. Every time we do that in my auto shop class, we allways get a scolding and a shit load of paper work do do for like a week before we can work in the shop again

ha, my shop teacher has a '70 mustang gt500 no joke with 50k miles on it and hes the original owner. he had me crawl under it and change his oil, with no jack stand, when i asked it i should do that he relies "i dont know where they are.. dont worry about it" because our school just got redone and they moved shit everywhere. no that i think of it, i cant remember the last time i used/saw a jack stand.

jeremy 11-07-02 09:06 AM

screw the oil problem on the floor, you need to worry about the wheel assembly that fell off the front. going trike?

85RX7GS 11-07-02 02:14 PM

Please dispose of the eclipse :D

Directfreak 11-07-02 02:17 PM


Originally posted by 85RX7GS
Please dispose of the eclipse :D
Sure thing. I guess my wife won't miss it tooo much. :flamed:

By the way, you guys know this is an OLD ASS THREAD right??

LongDuck 11-07-02 03:16 PM

Looks like you already have it done, but a tip on the SE's front stabilizer bar is that the lower Oil Cooler line is *underneath* the stabilizer bar due to the raised location of the oil cooler in the SE. This means that unless you want to do gymnastics with the bar under the car, taking off one tension rod mount and rotation the beast around to straddle the oil cooler lines (top and bottom), you're going to have to remove the oil cooler line, which is preceded by draining the oil...

I found this out the hard way, and chose the gymnastic route, instead. Plus, my Koni front bar is so thick that I had to air-grind the tension rod mounts to fit the ends of the bar through, then air-grind the underbody where it contacts the bar. All this, to get good, clean motion out of the bar, with the car lowered onto the springs.

BTW, the front boots on my struts were just fine, but would probably be worth it to replace them while you have the springs and shock mounts off of the top. Use caution when working with those springs - they can kill you if not handled correctly (i.e. compressors, or caution, or both). HTH,

error402 01-07-03 02:25 PM


Originally posted by Directfreak
By the way, you guys know this is an OLD ASS THREAD right??
Yes but it helped me out. :)

-Error402


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