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05-14-09, 01:56 PM
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need help quick!
ok so i was switching out dashes today... evything was going as well as it could.. new dash is in all bolted up everything back the wway it was and... it doesnt start.. wont even go to the start position... it jst beeps...whats up with her? i need to be at work in about an hour!!!!
05-14-09, 03:22 PM
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ok so i went out pulled all the bottom part of the dash out... check wires.. tried to see is there was anything not connected... nothing that i could see..... but here is alittle bit more info.... when i turn the key... headlights work,wipers work... no dunny lights come on... and nothing happens when i turn the key to start... what can it be???
05-14-09, 04:55 PM
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fusable links are good.. i pulled the dash out found nothing wrong.... everything was plugged in the right place nothing was left out... so i decided to look into the ignition switch... i tried wiggling it around and my feul pump would come on for a second and shut of then nothing.... so started taking stuff apart and this is what i found...
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05-14-09, 07:34 PM
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the battery is not dead... it too is also brand new... befor i got working on the dash i pulled the cables off the battery also..... ok so i noticed this also... none of the gauges work when the key is turned... like the volts, gas..... ect...
05-14-09, 11:03 PM
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ignition switch is connected, as well as the battery cables very clean and tight..(just the way i like it) haha (sorry alittle drunk) so im leaving town till monday... ill mess around with her again then....
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what else could it be, this is my DD i need her runnning again! all i wanted to do is change otu the dash how could this have happened???? any other suggestions would be greatly appriciated!
05-15-09, 10:15 AM
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check your ignition switch wiring. get a test light, i believe its the black wire/yellow stripe that sends power to the starter . test that that wire is +12 volts in the start position, if not you plugged something in wrong or the fusable link (attached to the ignition harness) might be bad
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so iv been out of town for the weekend.... i made alittle bit of progress car still wont even try to turn over.. no starter no fuel pump... but i did get the gauges to work as well as the dummy lights to come on... im going to get a test light tomorrow to check that wire... i checked the fusable link and its good... im so frusrtaed you have no idea.... all this from changing a damn dash is killing me!
05-19-09, 09:37 AM
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Wel my advice is to take break and retrace all your steps. It could be a plug not completly connected, especialy on the wring harness.
Not to sound dumb but I will go over everything.
start with the simple things, I know it does'nt make sense now but you seemed worried and might have miss some thing easy.
I just did this on my gsl-se
first pulled out the starter and the battery cables completly.
clean and replace as needed, also ensure you have a good ground.
pulled the fude link boxclened it too and check all wires .
checked for continuity on all wires at every spot fom battery, alternator, fuse links sensors etc.
threw in some new plug cables, cap rotor.
juped it wit a strong battery, check all fuses. then coils, igniters fuel etc.
most likely you missed something and is best to check with a clear mind and no stress, have a cold one and enjoy..
Not to sound dumb but I will go over everything.
start with the simple things, I know it does'nt make sense now but you seemed worried and might have miss some thing easy.
I just did this on my gsl-se
first pulled out the starter and the battery cables completly.
clean and replace as needed, also ensure you have a good ground.
pulled the fude link boxclened it too and check all wires .
checked for continuity on all wires at every spot fom battery, alternator, fuse links sensors etc.
threw in some new plug cables, cap rotor.
juped it wit a strong battery, check all fuses. then coils, igniters fuel etc.
most likely you missed something and is best to check with a clear mind and no stress, have a cold one and enjoy..
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thanks for advice... but i have done this at least three times now... and not alone, my buddy and i were out there for at least 3 hours yesterday going through each wire, checking all the fuses... thats how we got the gauge cluster to work, one of the fuses was bad but you couldnt see it by the naked eye... and we thought we had it... but nope.. no start, not even a try... we even connected everything to just see if you needed everthing connected eventhough we knew you didnt haha, like dimmmer switch cig lighter... ect...sill nothing, the one thing we both noticed was... when you turn the key and all the dummy lights come on, when you go to start it they dim a tiny bit...
just a thought.
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thats an awful thought hahaha, but i was thinking this as well.... but i dont want to buy one. just yet, id like to borrow someones and see... they are like $125 new from autozone, and no one has one in stock..... and im pissed cause i just got rid of my parts car... and thats just about the only thing i didnt pull from it!
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another thing i noticed that was broken, that worked only some of the time, was that little box connected to the ignition cylinder, that alerts youthat your key is in the ignition and beeps.... yea well that is no longer connected.....
05-19-09, 11:10 AM
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there's an e-bay store, "rotary restorations" i believe, i got my ignition switch from him when mine broke, can't remember price but i also got all 3 other locks with it keys and all. very cool guy you may wanna check up see if he's got something for you.
you could also do what i did and go to the local auto parts and get a universal switch and splice wires just to see if its your switch, just make sure you leave enough wire to where you can rewire it if it wasn't the switch lol. i think i got my switch for like 6 bucks or something, just a temporary fix.
didn't think i had the link bookmarked but i did lol : http://stores.shop.ebay.com/ROTARY-R...1QQ_fsubZQ2d33
you could also do what i did and go to the local auto parts and get a universal switch and splice wires just to see if its your switch, just make sure you leave enough wire to where you can rewire it if it wasn't the switch lol. i think i got my switch for like 6 bucks or something, just a temporary fix.
didn't think i had the link bookmarked but i did lol : http://stores.shop.ebay.com/ROTARY-R...1QQ_fsubZQ2d33
05-19-09, 02:47 PM
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There is one plug the Black/yellow wire goes through between the ignition switch plug and the starter. It is in the engine compartment under the Brake master cylinder. White 6 terminal plug, X10 in the 83 wiring diagram. It connects the front harness to the transmission harness. multimeter or test light is the best bet, but you can connect a long wire to the spade terminal (where the Black/yellow wire is) on the starter. When you touch the other end to the + terminal of the battery the starter should engage (make sure it's out of gear) and start the engine if the ignition is turned on and everything else is OK. If this works, pretty good bet the electrical part of the ignition switch is bad.
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Wow does the picture of the broken switch remind me of mine that i had to replace. :-) Its the switch. I had the same problem. Did you by chance try starting it with a screw driver (being very careful not to break it again!!!) If its not starting while the switch is in the column it could be because the little piece that turns the switch isnt turning it far enough.... Taking the switch out and putting it back in, may have caused it to go on the column turned just far enough the wrong way that the switch isnt turning quite far enough. After my plastic in my switch cracked, i bought a used ignition switch offa here, and put it in the car, and the fuel pump and everything woudl come on but it wouldnt turn over. Took it apart and used a screw driver and it worked fine.... finaly i took a pair of pliers looked in the column with the switch off and bent the little prong counterclockwise a little bit so that it would turn the switch more when i turned the key, and well, its worked perfect ever since... just be careful not to break anything, but im willing to bet thats the problem... is the switch is just not turning far enough, sorry if this sounds like rambling, i hope it is understandable.... and hopefully im right, so you can be back on the road.
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Wow does the picture of the broken switch remind me of mine that i had to replace. :-) Its the switch. I had the same problem. Did you by chance try starting it with a screw driver (being very careful not to break it again!!!) If its not starting while the switch is in the column it could be because the little piece that turns the switch isnt turning it far enough.... Taking the switch out and putting it back in, may have caused it to go on the column turned just far enough the wrong way that the switch isnt turning quite far enough. After my plastic in my switch cracked, i bought a used ignition switch offa here, and put it in the car, and the fuel pump and everything woudl come on but it wouldnt turn over. Took it apart and used a screw driver and it worked fine.... finaly i took a pair of pliers looked in the column with the switch off and bent the little prong counterclockwise a little bit so that it would turn the switch more when i turned the key, and well, its worked perfect ever since... just be careful not to break anything, but im willing to bet thats the problem... is the switch is just not turning far enough, sorry if this sounds like rambling, i hope it is understandable.... and hopefully im right, so you can be back on the road.
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i love you!!!!!!!!!!!!! that might be alittle forward!! but you were right though i tryied this the other day i didnt want to break it anymore then it was, so i didnt spin it too hard, this time i had nothing to loose i guess hahahah i just went for it, and sure enough..... it ****** started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you have no idea how happy i am! i can now continue this process! and get her painted!!!! THANK YOU SOOO MUCH AS WELL AS THE REST OF YOU!!! you have been here for me through the years and i cant tell you how much help this forum has given me thank you soo much!!!!!!!