::mint:: GSL-SE on e-bay (not mine, it's just amazing)
 

Hey all, normally I hate when people try to sell cars in any section that isn't "sell rx-7" part of the forum, but, this isn't my RX-7. I just saw it on e-bay, and well, it looks absolutly georgous. I know lots of the 1st gen guys want a gsl-se (who wouldn't?!) and this one looks like a beauty...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327

anyway, enjoy and if any of you win it, let us know!

WOW

If I were on the states, I would be getting that baby

That think is going to go for alot of money.

Does the fake stitching on the dashboard of the S3 annoy anyone else?

WOW.. pristine!

That is nice.

damn, impressive

That's purdy. I'd say $3,250 will be the high bid.

I'll bet on $4500

I'll say 6000.00. Saw one awhile back that wasn't close to this one go for 7651.00 on ebay

That's exactly what I was going to say. I'll be in the market for just such an example in about a year.

Holy crap its in oregon.
Looks strangly familiar too.

2800 tops, its not original paint, wonder whats really hiding under there

Anyone notice it says 1975 RX-7 in the "vehicle description" area? heh

Its about as clean as mine but with less miles and all original. And yall are saying 4-7 grand?

Mine is an SE with 198000 miles, 4 month old fresh paint (tender blue metallic), almost perfect (grey) interior, with a streetport, S5 rotor in S4 housings, a S4 intake system, full RB exhaust, RB springs, tokico shocks, 17 inch Konigs ect. ect.

I doubt my car would go for more than $3500.

-Greg

Wow ... It's a nice looking SE.. almost as nice as mine!!! hahaha Only if it was local dammit! Gee.. I already have 2 cars, ohh well park it at pops house! Good luck to the winning bidder. It's gonna be a high winning bid, it's eBay after all!

That sucker is hot, man. I wish mine was near that nice. Or an SE for that matter.

I don't mind the fake stitching so much, especially since when they stopped it they put all those fake seamstresses out of work.

$3500 for yours sounds about right, but not because of its high mileage or it's condition--- it sounds like yours is one of the nicer ones.

But the fact that your SE is no longer original has actually hurt it's resale value, even though it probably leaves stock SEs standing still. The problem with mods is that money put in does not usually= increased resale value out. It's like the proverbial guy who bought an original '63 split rear window Corvette and then decided it would look really cool with that third tail light added to each side. It cost him $2000 to do the mod, but decreased the car's value by $8000. So he's out 10K.

You could still get more than $3500 for your car IF you could find a buyer who wants that exact package but doesn't want to do the mods him (or her) self.

As for me, I'd never mod an SE or an original '79. They have too much potential to go up in value over time. But I would definitely do a 20B conversion to a GSL, while keeping it "looking" as stock as possible, but being anything but. I'd do this knowing full well that while it's current value would increase somewhat I could never sell it for anywhere near what I put into it. But then again, I'd never sell it to begin with. :D

Yes, thought I was the only one. It's difficult to clean those areas and it just seems to add to the "it's cheap, but lets make it look upscale" them that NEVER works out. I've thought about picking up another dash and trying to cover it in one solid piece of vinyl and see how it turns out.

What's the chance of getting one of the Oregon brotherhood to stop by and check this thing out? I think I see some overspray on the rear hatch hinge in the pictures, and I am curious if the paint looks as good as he says. Notice how digital cameras never get red right?

-dave

Yeah I do understand all this, and that car on ebay is very nice, but without seeing it in person for all its little issues that they all have, I would have trouble paying all that much for it.
Some cars look damn good in pictures but not quite as nice in person. So its hard to say.

As for the modding an SE, I had the same reservations about modding this car. But since it was high mileage, non original paint, and already had the suspension done I figured, I would make this mine. In the future (out of college) my current car will be a turbo beast and Ill be on the hunt for a lower mileage all original SE. Then Ill have best of both worlds, and maybe throw in a V8 conversion in a GSL for good measure.

-Greg

what's your second car?

At one time, what you are saying was generally accepted and true. However, times have changed. The market is now recognizing the value in well-done (and tasteful) modifications. Just look at the last Barret Jackson auction. A nice original car sells for $X, and a resto-mod of same car sells for $X+ 25%, some even more. A Model A sells for around $25K, yet a nice all steel Model A rod goes for closer to $100K.

A newer engine, or 20B for example will not necessarily hurt the resale value. The buying public will appreciate if the modifications are well-done with good quality work and materials. A Ferrari Daytona convertible conversion may never be worth as much as the real thing, but they are selling for more than an original hardtop in the same condition. Except for a very few cars, I would not expect to get back the full amount of money put into restoring to original condition (or for that matter the cost of storing an original in "time capsule" conditions). Likewise it is impossible to recoup the full value of aftermarket parts and labor of a modified car.

I own both types: originals and modified. No one has a crystal ball to know what the future will hold, but I would not modify a rare original car if it was complete and in good condition.

Daily beater honda!:bigthumb:

I hate the fake stitching too. Why the hell a manufacturer would put that cheesy crap into their top-of the line flagship sportscar is beyond me. Mazda always seems to skimp on interiors. If I get my door panels recovered in leather I might consider having the dash done to match.

I actually agree with most of what you're saying here. There are tastefully done mods that can make a car bring a better price than it would if stock. A Chip Foose overhaul would be an example. But you could almost never tack on the cost of doing the mods to the appraised value of a pristine original and get your investment back.

The above scenario (ie: tasteful mods increasing the car's value) may apply when restoring garden-variety rides such as El Caminos, Dodge Monacos and Ford Galaxie 500s. But it's a little more critical with exotics, and even with highly-sought-after-in-their-day cars such as 240Zs, '60s Mustangs and MGAs. For these and others like them it's wise to make sure any mods done are reversible. (hint: store the original exhaust, steering wheel, fuel delivery systems, etc.).

There are countless '65 Mustangs that started life with a 200 six and automatic transmission which have had 289/ 4-speed swaps and Carroll Shelby paint schemes. But the numbers don't match, so unless Foose gets his hands on them they'll never be worth as much as they would have been if left alone.

This of course does not mean it's necessary to stick with original brand bias-ply tires--- that would be ridiculous overkill and nobody would consider it a plus when deciding what to pay. Same goes for aftermarket sound systems, although keeping the stock radio in place and tastefully (discretely) installing the aftermarket sound in such a way that it can hide behind a contoured panel when not in use would be a wise approach.

One thing about the likes of Barrett Jackson auctions is that even though the clientelle knows cars and their values, many of them are also stinkin' rich. $100,000 is chump change to them. If they want a particular car bad enough they would think nothing of plunking down 50% over market value just to have it. Maybe it's their favourite color, or maybe they got laid for the first time in the back seat of one like it. But have you ever noticed how much the bidding thins out once the price goes above market value for a given make and model?