Killer Bee vs 13bt ii
Im looking at doing an engine swap and i have Fast Freddy's here in town.....he was telling me how the Killer Bee engine can produce 250hp and it can take the 13bt ii....he also said that it runs a high 12 low 13....now thats diffinately a difference from the 12a im running right now....
My question is does anybody have experience with the Killer Bee...any pros/cons.....and if this is true im thinking of getting it done around september so ill try my damndest to get pics of the process....thanks |
I'm sorry but i'm stumped to what a "Killer Bee" engine is. It reminds me of a mini- RC plane engine though. Like a .038 or so...
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yeah, i too am stumped...whats a killer bee engine
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Enlighten us as to what a "Killer Bee" engine is. For some reason, the name implies a p-port rotary. They do tend to sound like a million killer bees in a tin can.
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The Killer Bee packaged is from Rotary Reliability & Racing.
I have the motor in my car, and I can tell you it is farely quick. I have no clue how it would stack up to a stock TII, but I know that it pulls 0-60 in the high 6 second range. That was measured with a G-Tech with a slipping clutch, and I'm positive my carb is pretty far out of tune. I'm sure mid/low 6 second 0-60 times are possible with a perfectly tuned carb, nice clutch, and a freshly broken in motor. As for 1/4 mile times, I have no clue. Heh. Hope I helped. Later. P.S. It's a mild street port, for those wondering. **EDIT** The 0-60 times are with the specs in the sig. If you get the Killer Bee, you're probably going to have an exhaust and whatnot, but I just gave the numbers as a referrence, not a promise. Heh. |
Old skool, I belive Killer Bee is like Atkins, Mazdatrix, or Pinnaple. It's the name of the company, they use to make parts, all kinds of them years back, Ive got a catalog from them.
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Originally posted by 85rotarypower Enlighten us as to what a "Killer Bee" engine is. For some reason, the name implies a p-port rotary. They do tend to sound like a million killer bees in a tin can. |
Why would you name your company "Killer Bee"?
And is this rediculously named company located in Spartenburg? I've got friends up there... FS |
I'm about positive the name of the company is Rotary Reliability & Racing. The engine package is the Killer Bee engine. It's a street ported motor with a name other than "street ported motor" Heh.
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ITs a nice engine, VERY nice! Here
http://www.rotaryracing.com/rr_rot_engines.htm These arnt the old skool killer bees, but the tight sauce ones. They sell a NA p-port w/ 58 weber that gets 350 hp. Nice. Mmmm.. and look at all that chrome... |
My first rx7 had a 'Killer Bee' streetported 13B 4port with a Mikuni 44. I ran a RB dual exhaust and Jacobs ign pack.
It was quick, but not 250hp quick. However- Nick VanNugteren is the proprietor and he is very well respected in his knowledge of rotary engines. He won a few land speed records in Bonneville with some of his rotary rx7's... I can say that he stood by his work, one of the new parts failed and he replaced it (+labor) no problem. If I was to have another engine custom built, I would seriously consider him again. Also- I believe he calls his motors 'Killer Bees' because his signature paint job used to be yellow and black. |
I did not know that is why he named them "Killer Bees" Thank you for telling me, though.
And I agree, they are quick, but not 250HP quick. I will also add that the motors are quite reliable. The motor in my car right now is probably 6 to 7 years old and has upwards of 80-90K miles on it. Those miles include ~2 autocross events a month for roughly 4 years, and daily "spirited" driving spurts. It still runs strong, and I'd imagine it'll last quite some time into the future. |
a buddy of mine had 2 killer bee motors go south on him real quick and he paid a fortune for them. That was when rr and r was located in California in santa ana or something. Sounds like others have had good luck with them though :confused:
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If its only a street ported 4 port 13b then I would defenitely say to go with a 13bt swap instead. With the 13bt swap and a couple little mods like, remapped corksport ecu, injectors, down pipe and front mount you can run 200-275 RWHP. the sreet port 13b will only ever put down 175-210 RWHP. plus the turbo engine will make way more tourque. i can post dyno sheets of my turbo fb, in 80+ degree weather and elevation i put down 220 RWHP and 245 tourque with basically the mods i listed above, and my car passes emissions.
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I always thought that the 13B 'Killer Bee' needed a 4bbl Holley or Nikki to reach 250 ponies. Maybe an IDA Weber.
Now put a supercharger on it- That's a different ballgame. That would have been perfect on that motor, IMO. |
i dont think you would see 250 fly wheel on a street ported 13b, mabe like 210 on a large street port. lets try and talk wheel horse.
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Originally posted by Tom I always thought that the 13B 'Killer Bee' needed a 4bbl Holley or Nikki to reach 250 ponies. Maybe an IDA Weber. Now put a supercharger on it- That's a different ballgame. That would have been perfect on that motor, IMO. CJG |
You're right. More than likely have to bridge port a 4port 13B to get it up around there.
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ya, a good sized 13b bridge can run about 225-250 RWHP. without touching the water jacket.
CJG |
I thought it was an engine built by wutang. Wu Killa Bees!!!!!
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Originally posted by Rotortuner i dont think you would see 250 fly wheel on a street ported 13b, mabe like 210 on a large street port. |
I got a 13B 4-port Sp and guy it's fast as all hell. I have yet to go against a 13BTii. Tell you what though a lot of cars don't know what hit em when I fly by em. I'm planning on going turbo sometime hopefully.
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Dude, be kinda careful when you use the words "fast as hell". those words need to be reserved for the guy with the fb that has 300-350+ wheel. I dont doubt you can rip 90% of the swapped hondas and integras, but i think if you tryed and run against boosted honda, stock T2 with 10 lbs, etc. you would get beat.
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TRYING to upload killer bee logo but server is burping.
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hey, when going from slow Honda to "this" it's fast as hell lol
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