Just go on Ebay and search for Hella, H4 and you are looking for the 7" round lenses. Very simple!

Nick, we'll have to get together and shoot a comparison photo.

You: your new conversion.

Me: re-wired headlights with relays, Sylvania Xtravision bulbs.

Could be interesting to see the results... :)

I've decided I need to get this. I just installed some H4 foglights and I can see better using only them than I could with my high-beams before. (The broken bushing on one of my headlight lifter rods doesn't help, either.)

I did not use the hella conversion.
I found that the faceing of the hella lens was very rigid and the ones that i got have a smooth face on the lens.
+ i got the angel eyes for kicks, the kit was like 50$ with super white bulbs.

Can the angel eyes be orange/yellow instead of blue? That would look so awesome.

I didnt look, but im sure they have them.

Looks good! I might be picking up a set of these soon. The angel eyes look awesome though!

As someone who had tried both, there is no comparison to the Hella lenses. The eBay ones are garbage in terms of build quality, light output and light pattern. Don't waste your money on the eBay junk just because they look cool.

Well i have not had one problem with my ebay set, and they light up the road like nothing i have seen befor.

You cant knock something just because it doesn't have a name brand on it.

Only time will tell with these, i had no issue on installing them and they fit like a dream. There is no doubt in my mind that the ones that i got will give me good D.D.S.
"Deer Dodging Sight"

Just a little more info about the Hella kits. There are two versions the DOT and the European E-Code. I personally have the European lenses, so this may account for my results.



There are four basic differences between a Vision Plus (DOT Approved) and a Hella Euro Conversion.

First is in the lighting pattern. For us in the US the regulations date from the 50's. The US DOT mandates a dispersed pattern that puts a percentage of the light output UP and to both sides of the road so that overhead or roadside signs, which may not have other lighting or reflective characteristics, are lit for you.

The European standard allows all the light to go on the road - they have a law that any overhead or roadside sign has to have it's own, independent lighting or must be highly reflective. So not only is there more light on the road with your low-beams, the high-beams are more precise as well. There is also a triangle of light on the right side to light up roadside signs. Lamps sold in places where they drive on the left side of the road, like England and Japan, have that triangle on the left side.

The effect is that the Euro lights actually put more light on the road for you to drive with, and offend oncoming traffic MUCH LESS because of the sharp cutoff in the lighting pattern. And all of this with the same wattage lamps as in the US.

That's on low beam. Because of the low-beam requirements and the way that screws up the lens and reflector design, it's impossible to get a good high beam. Although the Vision Plus is substantially better than your typical off-the-shelf sealed beam, it's performance falls short of the Hella Euro Conversion.

The second difference is that DOT also required that the lamp have the three Aiming Lugs on the face of the lens. This requirement was dropped in the 2000 DOT Standard when visual aiming was approved. The Vision Plus lamps still have the Aiming Lugs, E-code lamps do not.

Third, the lamp must have DOT molded into the face to confirm that it meets DOT. E-code lamps have E1 molded into the lens.

Fourth, the lamp must not have more than 60 watts on high beam and 55 watts on low beam. The Vision Plus comes with a 60/55w H4/HB2 bulb in it in order to meet the DOT standard. The E-code lamps have no bulb because there are many variations in wattage and color available. It is not recommended to put a higher wattage bulb in a Vision Plus because the light pattern could dazzle oncoming traffic.

If you can upgrade to the Hella Euro conversions, then this is the least expensive, easiest and most beneficial upgrade you can make to your forward lighting.

That bit about the triangle up on the side explains this then. The Hella is installed on the left and the stock light is on the right. BTW this is with the BD harness setup. Notice the hella and the stock light brightness are about the same.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2403/...52e83b.jpg?v=0

Good info. Never heard all that before.

that IS great info, i didn't know there was so much shit about lighting! damn

Yeah, the brightness is the same. Look at the beam pattern though, the lens on the left, the hella has a bright rectangle section with the little triangle up slope, while the lens on the right, the stock one has a oval with a diffusion out from that. The E-code lenses seem to light up the road more.

Sgt Fox is right...that is one thing for sure after switching out the light output is definitely shooting down the road more effectively than the stocks.

as for the EBAY specials...they may work and look cool...but yeah the Hellas are simply better quality. Also...no offense, everyone has their opinion and can fix their car anyway they want...but I personally do not like the "angel eyes" as I think it look weird on our 1st gens. Angel Eyes are of course a BMW thing...I just dont like it on these cars. But whatever...each his own.


I think this lighting upgrade is totally worth it...and not that expensive. :icon_tup:

I will take quality over looks anytime. I ran E-codes on my 4 wheel drive 89 Toy P/U with 60/100W bulbs, and when I pulled up behind cars the beam cut off was so sharp the trunk would be illuminated, but the interior of the car would not have any bleed over into it. E-codes work much better in rain and snow, a lot less glare from the rain and snow. As soon as I get my 7 registered, I will be putting E-codes in and will put expel light covers on them to protect the glass.

good info sarg!!!!!!!!!
Ill be goin E codes Hellas for sure

anyone tried these?
 

Has anyone tried these HID kits? The reviews on the other forums seem to be pretty good for them....... BTW, I did catch this company recommending putting in the relay for any vehicle over 15 years old.

https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-classifieds-276/hid-conversion-kit-special-%2460-00-shipped-rx7club-com-members-849587/

a relay is "must" for me. its for protection.