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BlastinSideways12A 11-22-05 06:26 PM

Guaging interest on custom throttle body for nikki manifold
 
I am currently working a throttle body to be used on the stock Nikki intake manifold. This project originally started out as an alternative to the 500+ dollar throttle bodies (not even including intake manifold). I am planning on using the same throttle butterflies as the stock Nikki carb. This should flow extremely well considering the throttle body will not have all of the restrictions that a carb has (venturis and booster venturis). There will be 4 injectors (1 per barrel) which will enable the use of FC NA injectors which are fairly abundant. I will also be developing fuel rails for the application and providing for easy use of a throttle position sensor. With the development of Megasquirt we finally have a cost effective way of controlling fuel injection. Now it is time that we have a cost effective solution for EFI hardware. I can't quote a definate figure yet but I can tell you that it will be considerably cheaper than any bolt-up system out there. I will only offer this option after I have thoroughly tested the setup on my own vehicle but I wanted to put this out here to see if there was any interest. Any questions, comments, or suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

jayroc 11-22-05 06:41 PM

I would be interested. The autonomics guy makes a holley TB for $80. No TPS spot, though, and doesnt include anything else.
Can you set it up with an IAC fitting as well? That'd be nice to have.
I would pay around 300-350 for everything, including a custom machined TB, the TPS, rail, and IAC.

BlastinSideways12A 11-22-05 07:17 PM

That is the price range that I'm shooting for. The more interest that there is, the cheaper that it will be because most of the machining I will have to contract out. I am doing all of the design work and fabricating the fuel rails, TPS mount, ect. I'm looking into using the stock Nikki TPS but I need to see if it meets the requirements for use with Megasquirt. Since the throttle body is designed to replace the Nikki it would be most cost-effective to make use of whatever parts from it as are practical. I am definately going to use the throttle butterflies from a Nikki and possibly the linkage. I will try to get the finished product on a flowbench when I get to that point to give an idea of performance potential.

Anex 570 11-22-05 07:22 PM

Just to make this straight, what Nikki intake are you talking about? Nikki made the throttle body for the GSL-SE as well, so can you be more specific? or can you make one for the 13b? :)

BlastinSideways12A 11-22-05 07:39 PM

The Nikki in question is the carb on the 12a. I COULD make one for the GSL-SE but I don't see a reason to since it is already compatible with aftermarket EFI systems and I believe that you can upgrade to an FC unit for more flow. Injectors could not be mounted in the GSL-SE (or FC) throttle body because of the dynamic chamber (lets just say it would cause MANY problems).

This particular throttle body could be used on an older model 13B that used a Nikki carb (assuming that the bolt pattern is the same).

Also, regarding the Idle Air Control I will definately look into it as it is something that I would like to have since the prototype unit will be used on my daily driver in cold weather with many cold-starts. Thanks for the suggestion!

jayroc 11-22-05 08:47 PM

If you need somebody to test it as an EFI setup, let me know. I'll have a spare stand alone ECU and car to play with before too long.
It would be cool to have a FI system that looks exactly like the stock setup. B)

Are you going to machine these from a piece of metal, or alter a stock carb somehow?

BlastinSideways12A 11-22-05 09:13 PM

I am tossing around both ideas. My original idea was to use the bottom section of the carb as the throttle body and machine a spacer for underneath it to mount injectors in. I would, however, like to look into having the entire unit machined from aluminum for a cleaner, more lightweight look. It will come down to what people want and cost.

I probably will need someone to test it out and let those who are interested in the product know what you think of it.

Terrh 11-22-05 09:22 PM

I think this is an awesome idea..

I've wanted to make my fb EFI since the day I got it, the only thing stopping me has been what to do about a TB/intake manifold, and this solves both!

BlastinSideways12A 11-23-05 08:44 AM

I'm also going to look into fabricating various accesories, including the standard 4 barrel air filter, an adapter to make it easy to install a cold air intake, and a TURBO hat.


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