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meifert 02-02-18 11:24 PM

Can I use GSL-SE axles?
 
Can I use GSL-SE axles, calipers and rotors to convert the rear over to 4x114.4 on my 85 GSL? I'm not worried about the front just the rear. The front is about to be all S13 4 lug stuff.

rxtasy3 02-03-18 12:09 AM

yes u can.

peejay 02-03-18 05:21 AM

Done many times. All big bearing disk brake housings are the same.

meifert 02-03-18 01:51 PM

Thanks guys. Now I just need to find the stuff....lol

Whizbang 02-05-18 11:43 AM

generally, you just find the whole axle since getting the axles, brakes, rotors, etc, you almost just need the whole axle anyway.... Then its a much easier affair.

Kenku 02-05-18 01:54 PM

Like I said in the previous thread, I find it enourmously easier to just redrill the non-SE axles.

But then again, I'm also the nut who's designing a floater conversion for the rear end, so.

meifert 02-05-18 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Kenku (Post 12251090)
Like I said in the previous thread, I find it enourmously easier to just redrill the non-SE axles.

But then again, I'm also the nut who's designing a floater conversion for the rear end, so.

that would be easier but if I needed a brake rotor it would be a nightmare to find one or redrill it to work

peejay 02-05-18 04:31 PM

GSL-SE rear calipers are NLA from Mazda or rebuilders.

I do have a GSL-SE rear but it would take about $1250 to liberate it from me...

Kenku 02-05-18 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by meifert (Post 12251103)
that would be easier but if I needed a brake rotor it would be a nightmare to find one or redrill it to work

Once you make a drill template, you can just redrill the 12A rotors and use the stock calipers - or at least I used to.

meifert 02-05-18 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12251122)
gsl-se rear calipers are nla from mazda or rebuilders.

I do have a gsl-se rear but it would take about $1250 to liberate it from me...

nla?

rxtasy3 02-06-18 12:00 AM

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Whizbang 02-06-18 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12251122)
GSL-SE rear calipers are NLA from Mazda or rebuilders.

I do have a GSL-SE rear but it would take about $1250 to liberate it from me...

that explains why people can't find them

also, LAME

peejay 02-06-18 05:24 AM

Lame is my idea of putting a Miata 1.6l in the RX-3.

The GSL-SE caliper situation is a large part of why I went with common as dirt Lucas calipers for the new rearend.

rxtasy3 02-06-18 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12251211)
The GSL-SE caliper situation is a large part of why I went with common as dirt Lucas calipers for the new rearend.

how did u come across this alternative? were there data sheets to compare dimensions and mounting points? modifications needed?

Kenku 02-06-18 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12251211)
Lame is my idea of putting a Miata 1.6l in the RX-3.

The GSL-SE caliper situation is a large part of why I went with common as dirt Lucas calipers for the new rearend.

I need to figure out if SCCA will throw a fit if I use FC iron calipers instead of actual GSL-SE ones. Same pad shape, same piston size... oh well, I at least have one set of -SE stuff.

meifert 02-06-18 09:02 AM

Are there any bolt on replacement options for the calipers?

Whizbang 02-06-18 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Kenku (Post 12251230)
I need to figure out if SCCA will throw a fit if I use FC iron calipers instead of actual GSL-SE ones. Same pad shape, same piston size... oh well, I at least have one set of -SE stuff.

petition based on NLA status of parts?

Whizbang 02-06-18 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12251211)
Lame is my idea of putting a Miata 1.6l in the RX-3.

The GSL-SE caliper situation is a large part of why I went with common as dirt Lucas calipers for the new rearend.

kinda like my idea of a Miata 1.6 in an FB?

Kenku 02-06-18 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Whizbang (Post 12251261)
petition based on NLA status of parts?

I feel like the guys with little British cars will laugh. ;) More seriously though, I suppose I should just look at my parts piles and see if there's an actual, real difference. For some reason the GSL-SE/FC pad shape has better compounds available.

peejay 02-06-18 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by rxtasy3 (Post 12251223)
how did u come across this alternative? were there data sheets to compare dimensions and mounting points? modifications needed?

I noticed that my Volvo had the same 4x4.5 bolt pattern and used Lucas calipers, and that VW used a similar caliper but in aluminum, and common as dirt, and the Mazda cable would plug right in if you clock the caliper down about 30 degrees. Uses a 3.5" bolt pattern like certain Wilwoods, weld brackets are cheap and available.

http://www.photoberkit.com/copper/al...122_191427.jpg

Zero Mazda parts except for the Watts bellcrank, not pictured.

rxtasy3 02-06-18 11:52 AM

good to know. there should be a data base on the forum for OEM part alternatives and upgrades such as this along with any modifications need to make them work.

Kenku 02-06-18 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12251281)
*Ford 9" picture*

God, that would make things easier than messing with the stock rear axle...

Whizbang 02-06-18 12:06 PM

i went toyota 8.8.

peejay 02-06-18 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Kenku (Post 12251295)
God, that would make things easier than messing with the stock rear axle...

Making the Watts linkage fit is... problematic. I bought a new bellcrank just so I can hack it up. Part of the problem is that I want the pivot down on-center instead of 40mm up.

Can't use a Panhard with a quiet exhaust. The RB muffler/pipe takes up every bit of space and leaves no room for a chassis bracket. Can't put the bracket on the left side without losing the gas tank.

Most of the build pictures are on Photobucket....

meifert 02-06-18 04:56 PM

Are their any calipers that will work but maybe need new brake lines? I'm not lookimg to make totally custom everything if I can just keep it simple


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