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rotaryjunkee 06-19-14 11:46 AM

wideband, a/f
 
Im looking into buying a wideband kit for my car, which is carburated and am wanting to tune it for best performance. Im wondering what you guys are using so hopefully I can choose a certain product, I have my eye on one companies product, just want to see what everyone else is using and how it helped them.

82FanTC 06-19-14 12:25 PM

I use an innovate wideband and like it. Just need to make sure to buy the heat sink or you will burn out the sensor.

DreamInRotary 06-19-14 12:30 PM

I ran the AEM UEGO wideband controller and loved it, Innovate would have been my other choice.

Jeff20B 06-19-14 12:49 PM

AEM UEGO here and it's awesome. No need to calibrate it and no need for a heat sink. It's all in the gauge with only two wire harnesses coming out of it. Very user friendly and cheap on eBay.

rotaryjunkee 06-19-14 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by 82FanTC (Post 11755250)
I use an innovate wideband and like it. Just need to make sure to buy the heat sink or you will burn out the sensor.

Which innovate product do you use, im looking for datalogging because I think its easier to tune the car by reviewing data than trying to drive and look at the afr guage at the same time

rotaryjunkee 06-19-14 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff20B (Post 11755265)
AEM UEGO here and it's awesome. No need to calibrate it and no need for a heat sink. It's all in the gauge with only two wire harnesses coming out of it. Very user friendly and cheap on eBay.

What 2 wire harnesses are there? Is one for datalogging? And you say no heatsink required, so it can handle rotary engine temps. How long have you owned your uego?

Jeff20B 06-20-14 12:21 AM

I meant to say there are two harnesses, one with four wires; for power, ground and two for datalogging or ECU hookup, and the other harness has five wires for the wideband hookup. Sorry for the confusion. Two harnesses, not two wires, but there are two wires for the ECU/datalogging.

My sensor is located under the car. Maybe you guys who put it just a few inches after the turbo might need to think about a heatsink, but I never saw anything in the instructions about it.

I've owned the UEGO since late '10 but have tested it briefly in two cars and it worked fine.

bumpstart 06-20-14 12:48 AM

PLX AFR2 .. the ( multi display ) gauge will display lambda, petrol, methanol, LPG AFRs ....in trend ..something you wont get with the rest..
which is awfully handy for those guys with a carb.. but will also data log with supplied software

bonus is you can daisy chain many instruments through one or multiple gauges

very reliable unit .. very well priced and has features you dont get with other simple widebands

pinoyremix 06-20-14 08:18 AM

I have had my uego on my car since 2007, still runs great

sa7 06-20-14 09:20 AM

Also using an AEM UEGO wideband and love it. Very easy to install and use. No issues in the 2 years I've had it.

rotaryjunkee 06-20-14 12:56 PM

Lol I should have made people vote for different brands bcuz right now its looking like aem is in the lead. Im still doing some reading, so I havent made a decision yet, hopefully soon ill be installing a wideband in my fb

rotaryjunkee 06-20-14 01:00 PM

I am assuming you all have fb's also, do any of you have dataloggers with your wideband? Just trying to get an idea of how you all tune your vehicles

bumpstart 06-21-14 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by rotaryjunkee (Post 11755819)
I am assuming you all have fb's also, do any of you have dataloggers with your wideband? Just trying to get an idea of how you all tune your vehicles

mine is FC.. not that it makes much difference as i am running a blow through lpg mixer ( carb )

the AFR2 is installed permanently
i have two EGT kits installed permanently as well
and a use my FC as my daily driver

again i will point out only this brand of wideband gives you an instant trend display option ..
a graph so you can see the AFR trends of last few bursts of power
-importantly without needing to keep your eyes glued to the gauge as you do it-

so catering for those without an ecu or a PC... carb tuners ..


( though the PLX AFR2 includes those features as required by those with EFI.. needing a simulated narrow band output and wishing to download the datalog to a PC or record it to their ecu datalogger )

with a PLX DM6 // AFR2 .. for a similar cost to most simple widebands
you are essentially buying the basis for a stand alone datalogging system
should you require to record, trend and log stuff like exhaust /oil /air / fuel temps and pressures later
the AFR2 system gives more options on display than other brands
.. and also has a "soft" warmup that wont kill the wideband probe provided you put it in the right location to begin with ( instructions provided )

look closer

jshiz 06-21-14 11:34 AM

I have an Innovate LC-2. Fast acting and accurate. And I don't need to calibrate it often. I can use it as a wideband or narrow band and It's a standalone unit. I can get into it and tell it what type of fuel I'm using and make it talk to anything. I would recommend it to anyone.

rotaryjunkee 06-21-14 04:13 PM

I really appreciate all the input guys, ive been reading and reading several companies products and reviews. I was interested in a certain companies product, but with some feedback from you all, I have turned my attention to another company, and im really liking what I see. So please keep adding to the thread because i havent purchased anything yet. Ill still keep looking till Im set on buying, who knows I might change my mind again.

rotaryjunkee 03-19-15 05:28 PM

Well I finally bought a wideband.
Ended up going with the newest aem wideband out it is the 30-4110. It has the newest sensor the lsu 4.9, needing no calibration.
It also has the capability of hooking it up to a laptop for datalogging.
Dont know how I managed without one all this time lol, I definitely reccomend that everyone add that to there needed parts for there cars.
It will help you tune your vehicle to its full potential.

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djessence 06-01-15 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by sa7 (Post 11755713)
Also using an AEM UEGO wideband and love it. Very easy to install and use. No issues in the 2 years I've had it.

Where did you end up installing the sensor? From your sig, looks like you have a similar exhaust setup.

Jesse

10cc 04-07-18 02:59 PM

Looking at the AEM with Bosch LSU4-9, but the info from Bosch says up to 930°. I have a streetport 12a, RB header, and exhaust temps are supposed to be around 1200°+. I see guys here using the AEM. Any issues with the heat???

Jeff20B 04-07-18 04:18 PM

Mine is under the car near the trans drain plug bolt. Never any heat problems this far away from the engine. A wideband has it own internal heater so it's fine back there.


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