Koni Yellows
 

Hey guys, just thought i would let you know that there is a set of Koni Yellows available for the front of our cars. granted its meant for an MR2. But its a drop in fit, and the adjuster is on the top of the strut instead of in the strut.
Part number is 8641-1072-SPORT

they cost about $350 for the fronts, but i love them.

:suitdance

Cool!
Thanks for passing this on

Stu Aull
80GS
Alaska

Cool stuff man thanks for the FYI.

o and like i said before, drops right in, use the caps that come with the koni's and the stock upper mount can be used with no modification

Good info with the part numbers and application. Where did you buy them from?

i had mine ordered through a local shop, but this is the cheapest i have found online.
if there's any confusion, its for the rear of an 85/86 MR2 with the M42x1 cap

http://www.sportcompactonly.com/Toyo...25658_m-27.htm

so it look like according to this post that the rear toyota MR2 koni struts drop right into our front and bolt up to the stock upper mount.

My question is I thought that the tokoco MR2 struts had a thicker spindle and required respeeds camber plates to work. Is this NOT the case with the Konis?

I plan to buy the techno toy tuning (T3) camber plates and want an adjustable strut. Tokicos are pretty much non existant in the states.

Can anyone verify that the konis are an exact match?

I'm curious if this fits FB or SA struts? Probably only the shorter FB ones I bet.

The Tokico MR2 rear shocks do have a thicker spindle and either require camber plates that accommodate the thicker mounting shaft or require that the shafts be machined to fit. I used Tokicos with my GC camber plates and they still required machining. Cost me $30 to get yhem machined. RE-Speed camber plates may accommodate the thicker spindle...I don't know for sure.

I hadn't heard of using MR2 Koni yellows up front but I can see how that would work. The diameter of the shaft is determined by the car it's designed for so yes, I would imagine Konis would need Re-Speed camber plates or machining to fit stock mount points.

Given that Tokicos have been unavailable for months and are not likely to be available anytime soon, I wish I would have thought of using MR2 Konis. I think I must have gotten the last set of MR2 Tokicos. Mailed in my warrant card and it was returned with a message staying that the addressee has canceled their bulk mail account. Not a good sign for those if you waiting on Tokicos for you FB.

fm

t_g_farrell,

Couldn't you shim them for SA models? I think that's how the double adjustable Konis that used to be available we're installed into SAs

fm

minus the whole if you order from RE Speed you'll never hear from them again thing. Hope they get their act together.

I think you've got the shaft sizes backwards. MR2 are narrower (work with camber plates, including Respeed but are too narrow for stock upper mount) while the model made for our cars is thicker (must be machined down to fit camber plates, but fit stock upper mount fine).

I started with "stock" Illuminas when I installed camber plates. Had to machine down the shaft, but screwed it up a bit in the process. Later replaced with MR2 Illuminas for direct fit with the camber plates.

Hope this helps someone. :)



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damn, bringing it back from the dead! I actually don't have an fb anymore but i do still have the koni's on the shelf with maybe 500 miles on them if anybody wants them

the T3 people should be able to provide the right bushing, my GC and K2RD camber plates work with the Mr2 strut

Kentetsu,
That's why I prefaced my remark about RE-Speed camber plates, stating I had no experience with them. I do know that on the GC camber plates, the shafts are too thick and have to be machined down. I guess RE-Speed uses a bigger bearing. I hadn't even tried fitting the MR2 Tokicos on my stock plates...had I tried, I would have realized that they're smaller than stock RX-7 front shocks.

fm

I hope the stock caps work because koni said non of their struts come with caps

Ordered brand new for $117.13/ea!

why on earth would you run koni yellows, but no camber?

When i refer to caps i mean the top of the strut housing that seals the strut in place.

However, after talking to T3, they said their camber plates dont work with stock diameter springs. I definetely WANT to run camber plates!

Any other options without going to coil overs? I currently have racing beat springs

You can use Respeed camber plates with stock springs. However, you won't get max camber out of any plates unless you move to coilovers for the reduced spring diameter. ;)



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the stock or RB springs are so big that while you can run camber plates, the spring hits the body, because its so big.

which is why all the camber plates run a 2.5" spring. the 2.5" springs come in every size and rate you can imagine (and some you can't) so you could measure the RB springs length, and rate and just get that in a 2.5" spring, and it would be the same, but with camber adjustability

I just went through swapping the MR2 Koni's on the front of my car. My set up is unique in that I have the ground control weld on coils, with the 2.5'' springs, Tokiko whites and some old re speed camber plates/swivel tops. Here are some things I learned along the way since this was not a direct fit.

The MR2 Koni rears are slightly smaller shaft size then the FB Tokikos whites. T3 offers a 15mm spacer part that slides on top of the shaft so that Koni's will fit up with some of the other FB stuff you might already have.

The Koni and Tokiko shocks have different housing diameters, a glandnut that fit my old tokikos was not large enough to fit around the Koni. I'm working toward tracking down a glandnut that will fit from koni.

I was required to grind off the bottom nub on the Koni, the housing would have been too tall for the glandnut to thread into the strut tube. I did this before I realized the glandnuts needed to be a different inside diameter to fit the Koni.

This is interesting. So the shocks slip right into the fb tubes after grinding bottom a bit? If the diameter of the Konis allow them to go into the factory tubes, why can't you use the factory gland nut? Doesn't the gland nut screw into the tube and not into the shock?

fm

Do you have a link, or additional info on this adapter piece? I didn't see it on their site and it may be a solution to a problem I can't seem to get fixed; fitting Tokico Illuminas that have been machined for camber plates back into factory strut tops.

So pretty much to run the KONI mr2 rear shocks in the front strut tubes you need to run a T3 or GC camber plate?

Whats the equivalent Koni shock part number for the rear shocks? I'd like to run Konis all around if I can. I know its basically the same as for a Mustang rear shock but not sure what year Mustang to spec.

Fox bodies... This is what I plan on getting:

https://www.americanmuscle.com/koni-shock-9404.html

You can order through Summit also.

Started this thread on the KYBs I found on Summit. Just another alternative.

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...hocks-1131380/

I build some coilovers using the t3 stuff. I used some Koni rear shocks for a 84-85 mr2.

Below is the part number I used:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...493b936aa3.jpg

I had to shave some material off the bottom of the shock. It was too tall for the rx7 strut housing, the lock nut grabs treads but only like 4 or 3. But with shaving some material off you can shave enough off to have the lock nut fully threaded. I used the lock nut that came with the Koni shock. I read on here that supposedly the koni lock nut didnt fit the strut housing but it does.
Heres a pic of how I shaved the bottom:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...2d889c8d46.jpg
This should clear up some confusion on here.

The shock fits perfect after shaving the bottom in the strut housing. THESE WILL NOT WORK WITH STOCK CAMBER PLATES!! The shocks upper mount is a smaller diameter. I used t3 camber plates, when you buy camber plates they provide spacers for the shocks shaft.

First I had read this... So is a camber plate the same as a strut top as seen in Mazdatrix catalog? 34-390A-FA01 .So the KONI's will ONLY work with a Aftermarket camber plate and not OEM strut towers?

do these have an external adjuster on top?
how do they compare with tokiko illuminas?

I remember reading that someone (t3?) made an insert that allowed them to fit in the OEM FB strut tops. Probably not hard to make from some steel tube stock from lowsdepot.

This Koni shock is adjustable from the top, I had the tokico illuminas to me they where great. I have not had a chance to drive the car since the coilover install. I am still working on other stuff I wanna get done to the car before I start driving it.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...e640650a11.jpg


When you buy camber plates from T3 they come with three sets of inserts to fit different size shock shafts.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...82a3f0f914.jpg

Yeah I'm currently on illuminas, so will be very interested to hear your thoughts.