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Richard Miller 07-16-17 08:22 PM

I got clamped on my rear.
 
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As I dig deeper into my project. I found these attached to my spring. I assume the concept is to change the spring rate by limiting compression. Im like WTF, this is cheap shit.

TomSmy 07-16-17 08:34 PM

That's nasty!

peejay 07-16-17 09:23 PM

It's kind of like what Chris Rock says.... I don't agree with it, but I understand.

Whatever metal, or tempering, Mazda made the RX-7 springs with, was really bad. This is why lowering springs would make a car sit HIGHER, in the 1990s when the cars were just used cars.

WANKfactor 07-17-17 04:32 AM

Ive seen those things before. Usually used to Lower a car in the most half arsed and cheapest way possible. Either way, they are nasty and those springs should be replaced.

mazdaverx713b 07-17-17 05:31 AM

Haven't seen one of those i a long time. Glad you found it. Are you planning on ditching it?

t_g_farrell 07-17-17 07:27 AM

Its just ... just ... Arggghh! I'm speechless! WTF!

I've heard people suggesting doing this or the opposite to lower the car but really? Some one really did it.

Quick, make sure the mufflers bearings are in good shape too!

evo_koa 07-17-17 08:15 AM

I hate when I find something like that on a car. It makes you wonder what other surprises you will find.

Richard Miller 07-17-17 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b (Post 12200809)
Haven't seen one of those i a long time. Glad you found it. Are you planning on ditching it?

You will find them for sale on craigslist under S&M and alternative lifestyles.

GSLSEforme 07-17-17 11:30 AM

A close look at how its installed,looks like previous owner was possibly trying to restore ride height to a collapsed spring? Replaced a fair amount of oe springs under warranty when these cars were only a year old or so for sagging,bottoming,leaning.
They were not the best quality. A lot of customers upgraded to Eibach springs & Koni struts/shocks we sold thru parts dept. at dealership.

Richard Miller 07-17-17 12:19 PM

For new springs it looks like RacingBeat is the only came in town. Shall I assume that Eibach and Suspension Techniques are discontinued?

peejay 07-17-17 12:25 PM

Everyone who says they used it to lower the car needs to pay closer attention.

GSLSEforme 07-17-17 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Miller (Post 12200902)
For new springs it looks like RacingBeat is the only came in town. Shall I assume that Eibach and Suspension Techniques are discontinued?

Personally haven't seen Eibach springs for a 1st gen for some time. I don't think they make them anymore. They do make spring kits for modern cars,i suppose not enough demand for 1st gen springs anymore. St springs should still be available,they are a progressive spring,used them on a GSL i redid suspension on for a customer as was what he wanted.
RB springs are what i prefer,they are firm,firmer than St springs.

Richard Miller 07-17-17 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12200905)
Everyone who says they used it to lower the car needs to pay closer attention.

I don't think anyone said that this was a lowering tool in this circumstance. If one was to reverse the brackets, it could be used to compress the spring. This is an atrocity no matter how you look at it.

midnight mechanic 07-17-17 03:50 PM

When I first had my rx-7, I was tempted to do that in order to address the drive shaft hitting the body. So if you remove those spring compressors you might have the same problem. After +10 years , I solved the problem by putting some washers on the rear transmission mount.

The problem got really really worse after an indy shop rebuilt the clutch. He didn't reinstall the trans mount washers.

After 27 years of turning wrench on my rx-7, it was apparent that it was in a wreck, a bad wreck, a very bad wreck, a very bad fiery wreck!!

Richard Miller 07-17-17 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by midnight mechanic (Post 12200981)
When I first had my rx-7, I was tempted to do that in order to address the drive shaft hitting the body. So if you remove those spring compressors you might have the same problem. After +10 years , I solved the problem by putting some washers on the rear transmission mount.

The problem got really really worse after an indy shop rebuilt the clutch. He didn't reinstall the trans mount washers.

After 27 years of turning wrench on my rx-7, it was apparent that it was in a wreck, a bad wreck, a very bad wreck, a very bad fiery wreck!!

Mine is a head scratcher. the hood was replaced. the radiator support sheetmetal was bent up a bit. Nothing that patience and motivation couldn't solve. but that was it. The geometry of the car is dead on for what is spec. it's almost like the slid in under a raised platform and caught the hood and torqued the radiator support a bit.

DivinDriver 07-17-17 08:54 PM

JC Whitney used to sell those, and also the "twist in" kind that looked kind of like a spiral lug nut, to fix sagging springs.

WANKfactor 07-18-17 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by peejay (Post 12200905)
Everyone who says they used it to lower the car needs to pay closer attention.

They can be used either way, but they shouldn't be used at all.

GSLSEforme 07-18-17 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by DivinDriver (Post 12201060)
JC Whitney used to sell those, and also the "twist in" kind that looked kind of like a spiral lug nut, to fix sagging springs.

Saw a lot of the latter on domestic cars back in 70s,80s.

KansasCityREPU 07-18-17 08:42 AM

Back in the 70's we use to use these or shock extenders along with air shocks to raise the rear the the car for big wheels. I had a 1975 Monte Carlo like that. My car was so tall, I had to use my toolbox under the bumper jack so it could reach the bumper.

DreamInRotary 07-19-17 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by DivinDriver (Post 12201060)
JC Whitney used to sell those, and also the "twist in" kind that looked kind of like a spiral lug nut, to fix sagging springs.

This is what I was told they were for, to fix sagging springs. If you look at how they are installed they're pushing up on the spring, raising the ride height. Just ridiculous what people will go through to avoid buying new parts...

My RX-8 had those on the rear since they're prone to sagging hardcore in the back end.

DreamInRotary 07-19-17 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by KansasCityREPU (Post 12201172)
Back in the 70's we use to use these or shock extenders along with air shocks to raise the rear the the car for big wheels. I had a 1975 Monte Carlo like that. My car was so tall, I had to use my toolbox under the bumper jack so it could reach the bumper.

I'd like to see pictures of that, sounds ridiculous!

midnight mechanic 07-19-17 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by DreamInRotary (Post 12201597)
I'd like to see pictures of that, sounds ridiculous!

Car lowering, car raising, raise the front, raise the rear, curb feelers, rear wing or spoiler, whistler muffler, under sized wheels, over sized wheels, spinning rims......so many ridiculous fads

Did I miss any? Bouncing cars.

Qingdao 07-19-17 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by midnight mechanic (Post 12201620)
Car lowering, car raising, raise the front, raise the rear, curb feelers, rear wing or spoiler, whistler muffler, under sized wheels, over sized wheels, spinning rims......so many ridiculous fads

Did I miss any? Bouncing cars.


Excessive neg camber.

DivinDriver 07-23-17 10:27 AM

80s slot car look with the stretched tires sticking 8" out from the fender...

Toruki 07-23-17 10:39 AM

In high school I begged my parents to let me buy an old Dodge Barracuda and was denied. "I'll pay, I swear, pleeeease!"

It started with a screwdriver and was raised in the back with "ladder bars" and 2 or 3 of those horrible spring blocks on each side. But these were even shittier AFAIR...they just twisted into the coil and were expected to stay there.

Kids, listen to your parents! :P


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