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rxtasy3 07-07-21 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Mykimike35 (Post 12475391)
Does someone know the colour codes for the gold and brown 2 tone? That looks tough and I'm thinking of adding the brown to my gold 7.

check this link. scroll bout half way down, u will see it. P7(antique gold) is the overall color with T5(havana brown metallic) on the upper half of doors and fenders.

https://erix7.home.xs4all.nl/rx7col.html

jkmcafee 11-20-21 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 12393494)
that color appears to have been GSL-SE only, and off the top, only on cars with the shaded glass and painted mirrors. i think that color appears on other cars, the FC too, but other than that i don't know anything more than you. i had one too, it is a really nice color, and looks great with the grey interior (mine was red, and it kind of clashes)

as to why the late GSL-SE's get a couple of special colors (PZ black is the other one), the shaded glass and painted mirrors (and taller gears), is a mystery. its almost a special edition, but you would never know it existed unless you have one, or spend WAY too much time in the parts catalog... it does make for a very nice car though.

Interestingly... the 3A paint color is listed in the FSM. Royal Maroon was an '86 color but was available on late production 85 GSL-SEs (maybe others, I don't recall). In a previous post, I included a picture of my VIN plate showing the 3A paint code.

KYPREO 11-21-21 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Mykimike35 (Post 12475391)
Does someone know the colour codes for the gold and brown 2 tone? That looks tough and I'm thinking of adding the brown to my gold 7.


Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b (Post 12475866)
That's a very interesting question as we have no information on the two tone cars. Were they in fact stamped with two color codes? Was it just one code with the second color added as an option? This is definitely worth looking into!

There is a SINGLE colour code for two-tone cars, but the individual colours then have their own respective colour codes. This makes is very confusing for owners who look at the build plate only to find they can't get the original colours mixed.

Two tone silver colour codes on the build plate actually changes between the 1984 (late 83 to late 84) and 1985 (late 84 to late 85) model years.

"QK" for 1984
"JR" for 1985

They are both the same....Sunbeam Silver K3 base with Tornado Silver K8 accents.

Two tone gold colour code on the build plate for all model years is QY. The individual colours are Antique Gold P7 for the base and Havana Brown T5 for the accents.

mazdaverx713b 11-23-21 05:56 AM

Glad that was cleared up! Thank you for posting the information about the two tone cars!

j9fd3s 11-23-21 11:33 AM

pic is from the 1983 brochure, but colors are probably the same

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...571c43b513.jpg

j9fd3s 11-23-21 11:41 AM

and this is one of the reasons there has been no follow up to the 79-80 post, the two tone silver isn't in the brochure, the parts catalog lists a two tone, QB, which is different from QK and JR....

totally possible we're missing a brochure, there are a TON of them

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...99677158af.jpg

KYPREO 11-23-21 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 12494992)
and this is one of the reasons there has been no follow up to the 79-80 post, the two tone silver isn't in the brochure, the parts catalog lists a two tone, QB, which is different from QK and JR....

totally possible we're missing a brochure, there are a TON of them

Great info! I don't have this 1983 brochure. I assume this is the series 2.5 for the 1983 model year, not the series 3 released from September 1983 in Japan? I have assumed this is series 2.5 going off the lack of brake cooling slots on the lower front spoiler (which came in for series 3) and the lack of a lock on the fuel flap (which was on 81-82 models). I had understood JDM models got the gold 2 tone in series 2 (or 2.5 rather) so this matches with what I thought.

Japan never got the silver two-tone. Those cars only went to Australia, NZ, UK and continental Europe. Japan only got the gold two-tone, while Australia and NZ only got the gold two-tone for the series 3, not the series 2.5. Not sure about Europe though - they definitely got the gold two-tone in series 3, and judging by the Australian offering, the gold was probably Japan only in 1983.

That QB listed in the parts catalogue for series 3 has always been a mystery to me. Which section are you referring to? I came across this in a page for body stripes (section 5080). This shows the stripes that go above the painted sections for the two-tone colours and part number alternatives for QB and QY, as shown below:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...e6de591c80.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9926403503.jpg

It took me a while to realise what these stripes were. At first I thought they were for factory pinstripes, but they aren't. They match the stripes featured on the two-tone model. In Australia when people get these resprayed, the painters actually mask off to achieve the pinstripe (which is pretty impressive).

After some more Internet searching, I have determined that QB paint code is only listed for 1983, while QY is only listed for 1985.

I first thought that perhaps the colour code changed according to year, just like the silver one did. BUT, this would mean the part numbers for the stripes are the same too which they are not.

I only have one theory to offer at this point: the 1983 gold two-tone has different base and accent colours than the series 3 version. This may be right, as the colours look different from QY, an example of which is shown below:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...bddf2864a.jpeg

Both the gold and the brown are noticeably lighter than those brochure pics. The gold in the 1983 brochure looks more like Maya Gold, which was a 1983 colour.

I have seen two examples of a weird custom ordered two-tone in Australia which flips the gold tones: Havana Brown base with gold accents. It is a very very weird combo. No idea on the colour code and cannot confirm whether was indeed made like from the factory and the current owners were misinformed.

I have all the Australian brochures for 1st gen RX-7s and the series 2 and 3 brochures do not list any of the available colours. Dealers had colour charts/swatches to show customers in the showroom. I only know the colours available from years of experience and the information the community has collected over time at ausrotary.com.

j9fd3s 11-24-21 09:18 AM

lmao! i never would have thought to look in the stripe section, the US cars don't have it....

if you look up a badge, it shows which badge goes with what paint colors, and it in theory would list all of the paint colors. the US catalog has painted mirrors, and in theory that would list all the paint colors too, except that the mirrors didn't come on every colors, so possible the badges do this too.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...414ea1b6ce.jpg


the 83 pic does look more like Maya gold, but they reuse the same pic for 84, so maybe someone got surprised? actually maybe 84 is lighter?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...b63fc18ea8.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...52b5e795c8.jpg

btw i'm glad this came up!
my problem still is the USA, 81 and 83 are unconfirmed!

mazdaverx713b 11-24-21 10:14 AM

Those are incredible brochures! Have you collected those over the years when you were working for Mazda?

j9fd3s 11-24-21 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b (Post 12495125)
Those are incredible brochures! Have you collected those over the years when you were working for Mazda?

nope! its just screen shots from ads. there are a TON of different brochures, so i just found the USA 81 and 83 brochures, so we might have an 81-83 post shortly

KYPREO 11-24-21 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 12495115)
if you look up a badge, it shows which badge goes with what paint colors, and it in theory would list all of the paint colors. the US catalog has painted mirrors, and in theory that would list all the paint colors too, except that the mirrors didn't come on every colors, so possible the badges do this too.

Genius! Thanks for this. Confirms my suspicion that V3 Tender Blue was an export only option. The V4 colour (Canal Blue) is rare - it was offered on the IMSA Special RX-7, see: 1985 Savanna RX-7 GT / GT Turbo "The IMSA Special" JDM brochure - AusRotary (for super rare brochure!)


the 83 pic does look more like Maya gold, but they reuse the same pic for 84, so maybe someone got surprised? actually maybe 84 is lighter?
I reckon both colours were available concurrently or the QY code maybe came in for 1985 in Japan. This certainly matches the paint code searches I did.

Here is what I think is a QB JDM car in the wild:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...cb6df40ba2.jpg

It may be a trick of the light, but the gold looks different from P7 Antique Gold used for the QY 2 tone, which is more on the champagne side than orangey gold. More pics of Antique Gold P7 below:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...8756ea5405.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...44d57d6130.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...e64cd956a3.jpg


PS I'm loving this discussion!

rxtasy3 11-24-21 06:29 PM

this information needs to be archived.

j9fd3s 11-25-21 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by rxtasy3 (Post 12495209)
this information needs to be archived.

i found the missing USA brochures yesterday, so we're a week or so out from something bigger/better. so get your dark shades, and get your pornstache!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1e4adee834.jpg


mazdaverx713b 11-25-21 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by rxtasy3 (Post 12495209)
this information needs to be archived.

I can stick the thread to start. I'd be happy to have all of this archived. I think once its archived, posts cannot be added. I will double check on that.

j9fd3s 11-25-21 01:35 PM

actually it might be a little longer than a week, i have the 84 brochure and 85 brochure conflated together... which is about as comfortable as this...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9ce427be68.jpg

j9fd3s 11-25-21 01:48 PM

since i'm posting pics from brochures, here are a couple from 79-80 that didn't make the cut before

from the 1979 Tokyo Motor show
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f27e05e91b.jpg

March 79... Design your life with Rx7 indeed
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...97c819e63c.jpg

1980...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9396390450.jpg

There is a fold out poster thing, 1980 must be a red year?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1c4acddb01.jpg

and spoiler alert, the 1985 IMSA special, Kypreo has a great post linked below. V4 Canal Blue...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ee10ed603c.jpg




KYPREO 11-25-21 04:12 PM

Fantastic! If you have access to all these Japanese brochures, I am very, very interested in helping catalogue information. I also have a rare Japanese Mazda genuine shop options catalogue (which I scanned and posted here, as I knew somebody else would be able to ever find this brochure): 1984/85 Savanna RX-7 JDM Options & Accessories brochure - AusRotary

I had these photos saved from an old Japanese first site which has since disappeared (and pics are not saved on the Wayback Machine). I believe this is a Canal Blue IMSA Special (but with tasteful wheel upgrade). It also has the super rare OEM front foglamp option

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...cc4ed6569e.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...84429444d9.jpg

I also have plenty of photos of the Japan only V9 custom silver colour, which someone I know in Australia owned for many years.

PS a curious feature of JDM RX-7s I have only just noticed after all the years (and currently building a 1:24 scale of a 1978 Savanna) is that the guard/fender badge is only on the passenger/left side and not the drivers/right side. Export models got a "Mazda RX-7" badge on both sides of the vehicle. It's a very curious styling choice.

rxtasy3 11-25-21 06:26 PM

the car has a right and left side just like we do. so by u saying, "passenger/left side, dirvers/right side", if ur making a left turn do u turn on the right turn signal?

KYPREO 11-25-21 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by rxtasy3 (Post 12495312)
the car has a right and left side just like we do. so by u saying, "passenger/left side, dirvers/right side", if ur making a left turn do u turn on the right turn signal?

Ha! I know that, I just like to refer to both the side and relative positioning to avoid any potential misunderstandings for anyone who may assume I am talking about a LHD car when I'm not. I'm trying to be inclusive for a global audience!

j9fd3s 11-26-21 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by KYPREO (Post 12495302)
PS a curious feature of JDM RX-7s I have only just noticed after all the years (and currently building a 1:24 scale of a 1978 Savanna) is that the guard/fender badge is only on the passenger/left side and not the drivers/right side. Export models got a "Mazda RX-7" badge on both sides of the vehicle. It's a very curious styling choice.

that is pretty funny, i never noticed that either!

j9fd3s 11-26-21 10:35 AM

more random B roll pics

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...4e4166db5a.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a09c7cc157.jpg
if you look close, i think porn stash guy has a flat cap also...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...55b251bf3d.jpg

the JDM cars had a model badge in 1981...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...2b03d5ebf2.jpg



BeastieboyFBGLSSE 02-20-22 06:41 PM

Hey, I just bought an 85 GSL SE 850390 from Az. and it is 95% restored and has a high $ paint scheme. It runs amazingly and has the 205/60s on original reworked rims. The interior is EC, 5spd is smooth. Good to know another 85gsler?


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