[For Sale] Stillway FD3S 0-400 Circuit shifter for sale.
#126
Thats the problem, you claimed he never was in the first place....now you claim he WAS, but no longer is.
The problem I am having with this is that you keep changing your story on exactly what he was. You knowingly allowed him to tell your prospective customers that he was one of your managers....
If he sold on this forum in my name and under 7Tune then this would be an entirely different matter.
Sorry, but something just stinks about that. And, whether you agree or not, we deserve proper honesty about exactly what happened there, because he came onto this forum and marketed himself as such....
Yes, you have received total transparency from me in every regard. I have put distance between myself and every matter contained within this forum in regards to Shin and R-Magic "USA" because 7Tune has had nothing to do with any of these transactions. I am here to make sure this matter is resolved to everyones benefit, not because I have to but because I care enough about the situation. Despite not having a single shred of obligation to do so, I am here for your benefit so instead of trying to "pin" this on me, by way of "association", how about we mutually go through it with a logical, rational approach in order to find the right solutions?
Apparently, he changed his paypal address once you "fired" him...since he no longer had access to the 7tune account anymore.
No offense, but when this guy shows up on this forum proclaiming to accept payments at a 7tune paypal address, or that you can reach him to order parts at a 7tune email address, it IS our business. You dont have to like it, thats just the way it is.
Then you never should have allowed him to have access to 7tune specific things...and you NEVER should have allowed him to publicly state that he was your sales manager. Come on, stop making excuses or trying to make an end-around. This crap happened. He declared that thats what he was for 7tune. You clearly knew about it and clearly allowed it. Stop making excuses and man up.
I appreciate you trying to tell me how things should or should not have been. But, what happens outside this forum and within 7Tune is none of your concern. If Shin was in this forum, accepting payments as 7Tune for 7Tune and in his previous role within 7Tune, then you have something to say. Since this has never been the case on RX7 Club forum, you do not.
This "crap" you speak of is the responsibility of Shin Sudo and R-Magic USA. Not 7Tune and most certainly not me. Take it up with him.
He "declared it" certainly as has been shown but not on this forum, not here and most certainly, not with you. On the contrary, what you are saying happened outside this forum and again, that's none of your business.
Again, you can call yourself whatever you want. But when you use a 7tune email address and a 7tune paypal address, it creates association. Why do you think "authorized distributors" of a company's products still have to use their own name in their email, etc??? For that simple reason--that it creates a false association. You allowed him to use 7tune name in those communications. What part of THAT do YOU not understand?
That's when I got involved. There are two separate issues here. I have worked through one with this forum and have handled the other internally. 7Tune, nor myself are involved in this matter with sales on RX7 Club Forum.
And he's scamming those people just like he apparently did to you. He claims to be working for R Magic....claims that he "handles all their overseas sales now" and so on. Funny, R Magic doesn't recall ever making that arrangement with him.
He did the same to you...and you knowingly allowed it to happen. When you do that, it can put you on the hook. Wake up.
Youre forgetting that Shin sold previously to Eric using that 7tune paypal address....how else do you think Eric would have asked him if the 7tune one was the one to use this time??? THINK. Use your head!
Sheesh is your crap still going??
Eric does not make any mention of officially ordering anything from 7tune....yet he knew the 7tune paypal specific to Shin, because Shin had him use it in the past for things not related to 7tune! THAT ALONE showsl you that this was happening.
Therefore, it has nothing to do with 7T or myself.
Your company actively advertised them on your FB page the exact same time he was listing them for sale on here. That is more than "not a single thing to do" with the shifter issue.
LOL, your entire rant has unravelled completely now and the forum knows it. Baseless conjecture, ground in heresy, clutching at straws that do not exist... trying to pin responsibility on a third party that was not directly related to the issue at hand... quite sad really.
And all I was trying to do was help you all out (knowing full well that yourself and another forum member) were trying to pin the responsibility on me here in RX7 Club Forum by way of association with Shin Sudo... very sad. Pathetic even.
So, you change the details of your story over and over again...because you care?
Just let it go.. you're really crazy about this now... it has gone beyond the point of reasonable discourse.
If I find as much as one person that paid him at the 7tune address, you will never hear the end of it. Count on it....because youve pushed so hard in the opposite direction. You already know of a necklace that was sold to Eric using that address for payment....what kind of business do you run that you do not keep tighter control over payment accounts in your name like that?
Its not lost on me that the guy who should be speaking up in here, Shin, is notably absent....but then again, if you look back on the first page, he specifically was asked if he was the "real R Magic" or a fake. Posts 11, 12 and 13....look at his response.
Just accept the fact and we can move on from this.
I would recommend to you that next time you associate someone with your business in any capacity, you actually check them out first. Nothing this guy has said has been honest. Circuit theory even learned that, when Shin was telling people that he was waiting on parts to arrive, that the real R Magic had not even received an order for any.....and that they were in stock.
In future, you should deal directly with me. As my transparency has shown, I am responsible even when I am not accountable.
Have a good weekend!
AZ
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I think that besides Shin we need to be looking into R Magic Japan for answers regarding this matter, why would R Magic allowed Shin or one of their employees to add a statement on their web page that they are selling on the RX7 club under the name R Magic USA.
https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class...c-not-1058313/
http://www.rmagic.net/index.php
And if they are aware and care about their reputation as one of the top RX7 parts providers, how come is this statement is still posted on their web page after finding out what's going on in this Forum?
https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class...c-not-1058313/
http://www.rmagic.net/index.php
And if they are aware and care about their reputation as one of the top RX7 parts providers, how come is this statement is still posted on their web page after finding out what's going on in this Forum?
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#128
I think that besides Shin we need to be looking into R Magic Japan for answers regarding this matter, why would R Magic allowed Shin or one of their employees to add a statement on their web page that they are selling on the RX7 club under the name R Magic USA.
https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class...c-not-1058313/
RX7/RX8 ?????????? R Magic
And if they are aware and care about their reputation as one of the top RX7 parts providers, how come is this statement is still posted on their web page after finding out what's going on in this Forum?
https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class...c-not-1058313/
RX7/RX8 ?????????? R Magic
And if they are aware and care about their reputation as one of the top RX7 parts providers, how come is this statement is still posted on their web page after finding out what's going on in this Forum?
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I was referring to the sales with this thread - I have had nothing to do with them so quit beating a dead horse and just accept it. If you have an issue, you should speak to R-Magic USA but you don't seem to understand that, regardless of how many times I am telling you. What Shin did here on RX7 forum with R-Magic USA is not my concern. Sorry.
Yes, MY prospective customers. Not this forum's, not yours but mine - through 7Tune. This is absolutely none of your concern. What Shin was is 7Tune's issue. Not yours nor anyone else's.
If he sold on this forum in my name and under 7Tune then this would be an entirely different matter.
Marketed himself as what on this forum? 7Tune or R-Magic USA? Tell me.
Yes, you have received total transparency from me in every regard.
I have put distance between myself and every matter contained within this forum in regards to Shin and R-Magic "USA" because 7Tune has had nothing to do with any of these transactions.
I am here to make sure this matter is resolved to everyones benefit, not because I have to but because I care enough about the situation. Despite not having a single shred of obligation to do so, I am here for your benefit so instead of trying to "pin" this on me, by way of "association", how about we mutually go through it with a logical, rational approach in order to find the right solutions?
"Apparently"? Are you stating this as fact?
Ask yourself why Shin would give someone that paypal addy before--someone that is not a 7tune customer. Tell me the answer you come up with.
I see.. and no offence taken. Can you please direct me to those posts where Shin was accepting payments on RX7 Club Forum as 7Tune? I need to see them asap.
Man up about what? Someone else's mistakes that took place outside the realms of my responsibilities? Do you still think that R-Magic sales on this forum are a 7Tune responsibility? Seems the witch hunt torch has passed from Circuit theory to you!
I appreciate you trying to tell me how things should or should not have been. But, what happens outside this forum and within 7Tune is none of your concern.
If Shin was in this forum, accepting payments as 7Tune for 7Tune and in his previous role within 7Tune, then you have something to say. Since this has never been the case on RX7 Club forum, you do not.
But you would know this already, if not for your added drama.
This "crap" you speak of is the responsibility of Shin Sudo and R-Magic USA. Not 7Tune and most certainly not me. Take it up with him.
He "declared it" certainly as has been shown but not on this forum, not here and most certainly, not with you. On the contrary, what you are saying happened outside this forum and again, that's none of your business.
Like I said, there was no correlation for me between what Shin was doing internally in 7Tune and what he was doing externally in RX7 Club forum until I got an email from Luis.
I do not believe he "works" for them but I know they have done some "work "together" in the past. I should have some information on the way forward at a later date.
Knowingly allowed what to happen? Is this another accusation??
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And he's scamming those people just like he apparently did to you. He claims to be working for R Magic....claims that he "handles all their overseas sales now" and so on. Funny, R Magic doesnt recall ever making that arrangement with him. He did the same to you...and you knowingly allowed it to happen. When you do that, it can put you on the hook. Wake up.
And he's scamming those people just like he apparently did to you. He claims to be working for R Magic....claims that he "handles all their overseas sales now" and so on. Funny, R Magic doesnt recall ever making that arrangement with him. He did the same to you...and you knowingly allowed it to happen. When you do that, it can put you on the hook. Wake up.
Again, if it is a matter related to 7Tune then this is none of your concern.
You dont have to like it. But truth is truth. We are faced with a shrinking number of shops and suppliers for our parts, and we ALL deserve to know which of the remaining shops can be trusted and which ones leave questions.
Those internal matters have already been dealt with. Eric asked if that was the right address to send to... and Shin said no, send to "rmagicsales"...
I suppose he did...so what? Sales here under R-Magic USA is not sales on 7tune. Pretty simple!
LOL, your entire rant has unravelled completely now and the forum knows it. Baseless conjecture, ground in heresy, clutching at straws that do not exist... trying to pin responsibility on a third party that was not directly related to the issue at hand... quite sad really.
We're done here. Let me rephrase that....YOU are done in this thread. Go tend to your business, it obviously needs some help.
And yes, I do care - cared enough to help get this issue into shape even though it had nothing to do with me personally or professionally.
How exactly have you helped? Oh, thats right, you tried to take credit for Tom's actions....
https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class.../#post11737783
He thanks TOM for all his help....you reply with "Youre welcome".....as though he was talking to you.
Just let it go.. you're really crazy about this now... it has gone beyond the point of reasonable discourse.
Threats now? Feel free to comb your thread for my involvement or rather, lack there-of. You're even making these threats admitting you don't even have a single straw to clutch onto. I know you are looking so be my guest. Granted, you are totally right, I trusted the wrong person... I guess we all make errors of judgment like that sometimes, don't we? Finding good people is hard, wouldn't you agree?
I saw them... and all I can say is that I am pretty disgusted with the entire situation. After all that has transpired, I have chosen to step in here, not for Sudo, but for you and naturally, myself and the brand.
In future, you should deal directly with me. As my transparency has shown, I am responsible even when I am not accountable.
Best of luck to you.
EDIT....
Is THIS how you advertise your business? By ripping off another company's copyrighted logo??
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwExFNLfKi-Zy0NJTmLkUNA
https://www.7-eleven.com/#
Ever heard of trademark infringement? Somehow, I'm guessing that 7-11 never gave you permission to use their logo design. Did you know that the ACTA Trade Agreement includes Japan, and allows for jail time and/or fines for copyright or trademark infringement??
Like I said, Adam, you should spend more time worrying about how to run your business and less time trying to tell everyone else what their business is. Free tip....next one, I'm going to send you a bill for.
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Shin, AKA R Magic USA, has been banned as of now.
garagemoose, I am going to contact the real R Magic for you. Since they seem to have endorsed Shin on their website, I am going to inform them that he has been banned here and that under their name he took your money without delivering anything. Let's see what they say about it.
garagemoose, I am going to contact the real R Magic for you. Since they seem to have endorsed Shin on their website, I am going to inform them that he has been banned here and that under their name he took your money without delivering anything. Let's see what they say about it.
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This thread is now being Closed as the issue is DONE..the Vendor has been exposed as a "Fraud" and the Info will be retained in this Section for future inquiries.
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