7Tune

I was referring to the sales with this thread - I have had nothing to do with them so quit beating a dead horse and just accept it. If you have an issue, you should speak to R-Magic USA but you don't seem to understand that, regardless of how many times I am telling you. What Shin did here on RX7 forum with R-Magic USA is not my concern. Sorry.

Yes, MY prospective customers. Not this forum's, not yours but mine - through 7Tune. This is absolutely none of your concern. What Shin was is 7Tune's issue. Not yours nor anyone else's.

If he sold on this forum in my name and under 7Tune then this would be an entirely different matter.

Marketed himself as what on this forum? 7Tune or R-Magic USA? Tell me.

Yes, you have received total transparency from me in every regard. I have put distance between myself and every matter contained within this forum in regards to Shin and R-Magic "USA" because 7Tune has had nothing to do with any of these transactions. I am here to make sure this matter is resolved to everyones benefit, not because I have to but because I care enough about the situation. Despite not having a single shred of obligation to do so, I am here for your benefit so instead of trying to "pin" this on me, by way of "association", how about we mutually go through it with a logical, rational approach in order to find the right solutions?

"Apparently"? Are you stating this as fact?

I see.. and no offence taken. Can you please direct me to those posts where Shin was accepting payments on RX7 Club Forum as 7Tune? I need to see them asap.

Man up about what? Someone else's mistakes that took place outside the realms of my responsibilities? Do you still think that R-Magic sales on this forum are a 7Tune responsibility? Seems the witch hunt torch has passed from Circuit theory to you!

I appreciate you trying to tell me how things should or should not have been. But, what happens outside this forum and within 7Tune is none of your concern. If Shin was in this forum, accepting payments as 7Tune for 7Tune and in his previous role within 7Tune, then you have something to say. Since this has never been the case on RX7 Club forum, you do not.

This "crap" you speak of is the responsibility of Shin Sudo and R-Magic USA. Not 7Tune and most certainly not me. Take it up with him.

He "declared it" certainly as has been shown but not on this forum, not here and most certainly, not with you. On the contrary, what you are saying happened outside this forum and again, that's none of your business.

Like I said, there was no correlation for me between what Shin was doing internally in 7Tune and what he was doing externally in RX7 Club forum until I got an email from Luis.

That's when I got involved. There are two separate issues here. I have worked through one with this forum and have handled the other internally. 7Tune, nor myself are involved in this matter with sales on RX7 Club Forum.

I do not believe he "works" for them but I know they have done some "work "together" in the past. I should have some information on the way forward at a later date.

Knowingly allowed what to happen? Is this another accusation??

Forgetting? LOL, you're like a blood hound looking for a kill and barking up the wrong trees but you still don't realise, there's no fox, haha! This transaction was not made on RX7 Club Forum and I believe Eric received his necklace a long time ago.

Sheesh is your crap still going??

Again, if it is a matter related to 7Tune then this is none of your concern. Those internal matters have already been dealt with. Eric asked if that was the right address to send to... and Shin said no, send to "rmagicsales"...

Therefore, it has nothing to do with 7T or myself.

I suppose he did...so what? Sales here under R-Magic USA is not sales on 7tune. Pretty simple!

LOL, your entire rant has unravelled completely now and the forum knows it. Baseless conjecture, ground in heresy, clutching at straws that do not exist... trying to pin responsibility on a third party that was not directly related to the issue at hand... quite sad really.

And all I was trying to do was help you all out (knowing full well that yourself and another forum member) were trying to pin the responsibility on me here in RX7 Club Forum by way of association with Shin Sudo... very sad. Pathetic even.

Change my story how? And yes, I do care - cared enough to help get this issue into shape even though it had nothing to do with me personally or professionally.

Just let it go.. you're really crazy about this now... it has gone beyond the point of reasonable discourse.

Threats now? Feel free to comb your thread for my involvement or rather, lack there-of. You're even making these threats admitting you don't even have a single straw to clutch onto. I know you are looking so be my guest. Granted, you are totally right, I trusted the wrong person... I guess we all make errors of judgment like that sometimes, don't we? Finding good people is hard, wouldn't you agree?

I saw them... and all I can say is that I am pretty disgusted with the entire situation. After all that has transpired, I have chosen to step in here, not for Sudo, but for you and naturally, myself and the brand.

Just accept the fact and we can move on from this.

Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it.. whoever you are.

In future, you should deal directly with me. As my transparency has shown, I am responsible even when I am not accountable.

Have a good weekend!

AZ

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

I think that besides Shin we need to be looking into R Magic Japan for answers regarding this matter, why would R Magic allowed Shin or one of their employees to add a statement on their web page that they are selling on the RX7 club under the name R Magic USA.


https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class...c-not-1058313/


http://www.rmagic.net/index.php


And if they are aware and care about their reputation as one of the top RX7 parts providers, how come is this statement is still posted on their web page after finding out what's going on in this Forum?

7Tune

I had not seen this - thanks for posting it. I'll bring it up immediately.

rx7roller02

Oh, I understand it just fine. What YOU are missing is that you bear SOME responsibility for choosing someone like Shin and allowing him to represent your business publicly. I never blamed you for everything he did, and you cannot seem to get that.



You dont get to come in here and tell me or anyone else "what is not our concern". We have a guy who has used your paypal address for at least one transaction to a forum member that does not involve parts that 7tune sells. He found that customer on this forum and he sold that item outside of your website and your FB page, from what it looks like thus far. Thats what muddied the waters so much. You even know this already and you blow it off because you cannot face facts.

I had no idea that 7tune sold jewelry now....


I already did. Youre simply refusing to get it. And there's no one that can fix that but you.

No, we have not. You were quite less than forthcoming as to the extent of Shin's involvement with 7tune from the start. First you were content to say he does not work for you. Then you bumble your way through "well, he was a representative but was never an employee..." All the while, you knowingly allowed him to call himself an employee to your prospective customers. Seems you havent even made up your own mind as to what he was. But I digress...


You were not even aware that he was advertising these same parts at the same time on your dime, for himself. From where I'm sitting, you are not in a position to tell us things like this when you dont even know what went on in the first place. You really should have a better handle on your "not employees" than this.


You cannot offer any solutions, remember? "this is not your issue", right? And again, I did not try to "pin" this on you. I simply stated the truth about how business works, and how when you allow someone to conduct themselves in your name, you share responsibility.



Think about it....Eric asks him if he should send the money to the 7tune paypal address again. How would Eric even have that paypal address from Shin? Eric was not buying things from 7tune's website or from FB....Shin sold him things outside of 7tune, but using a 7tune paypal address for payment. I cannot believe youre still missing this. There is no other way for Eric to have known "shin@7tune" as a paypal account unless Shin gave it to him previously.

Ask yourself why Shin would give someone that paypal addy before--someone that is not a 7tune customer. Tell me the answer you come up with.



Youve already been told about at least one...and you still pretend it did not happen.


Dude, you really need to get ahold of yourself already and skip the drama. You were plainly told what I think...and this is what you have done with that. I'm not going to continue trying to converse with someone that cannot read a simple post without adding drama that was not there already.

Again, I'll let you know what is and is not my concern, thank you much.


Please point me to your line of fine necklaces that can be purchased through 7tune. Until then, I already made this point. it's a shame you still are missing it. You were not very thorough in your actions regarding Shin, and you allowed him extraordinary reach considering you now wish to claim "he was not an employee"....THAT is what I told you to man up about. Get a grip, man. You pretend that I am blaming everything Shin did on you, I've already made it quite clear that thats not the case.

But you would know this already, if not for your added drama.

See above.

You really need to stop trying to tell me what is my business. Hell, you treated Shin like it wasnt even YOUR business and it's your company! Seems to me that you need to do some looking inward before you start trying to tell anyone else what "is not their business".

So now you admit that there was a correlation? wow....and the changes just keep on coming...


We already know he does not work for them. they have already stated that he orders parts from them from time to time, and nothing more.


Sheesh....you really are stuck on thick, arent you? Try reading it again:
Based on your claim that you were not ever his "employer", I said that he did the same thing to you that he's doing now with R Magic--pretending to be employed there. That, you claim, is what he did to you as well---you have said that he was never an employee. But you were aware of his claims that he was your new "sales/export manager"....and you allowed it to continue. THAT is what I meant. Why cant you just read the damn post and stop inserting things and drama that were not there?


As a fellow rotary owner, what happens within the 7 community is my concern, it's all of our business. Doesnt even have to relate to this forum. We are a shrinking community. These cars, one by one, are being taken off the road. And Mazda isnt making any more used RX7s, now are they? As such, we ALL have a stake in what happens within the rotary community. Your level of diligence regarding your business IS our business. Whether you like it or not. You are in a service business....the customer has the right to know these kinds of things. And all around you, on this forum, myself included, are prospective customers. And to be honest, youre making a rather poor showing of how you run that business, allowing someone like Shin to have so much reach into using your name like this, when you claim he was not even an employee there.

You dont have to like it. But truth is truth. We are faced with a shrinking number of shops and suppliers for our parts, and we ALL deserve to know which of the remaining shops can be trusted and which ones leave questions.



And again, do you think Eric just pulled that 7tune paypal address out of his ***? Clearly he got it from Shin, in a previous sale...that involved an item for sale that you do not even sell. So again, when asking for proof of Shin using 7tune outside of 7tune, why are you still asking? CLEARLY he has done this. yet you act like it's such a massive stretch to think it could have happened elsewhere?? wow....

wow....just wow...

Oh, so you speak for this forum now? Youre way overstepping there, Adam. Better reel it back in a few notches. "straws that do not exist"?? Youre so off base it isnt funny. You still pretend that I am trying to "pin the whole thing on you" despite numerous times of me saying otherwise!!!

We're done here. Let me rephrase that....YOU are done in this thread. Go tend to your business, it obviously needs some help.



How exactly have you helped? Oh, thats right, you tried to take credit for Tom's actions....

https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class.../#post11737783

He thanks TOM for all his help....you reply with "Youre welcome".....as though he was talking to you.



So now youre going to tell forum moderators what to do as well? Really digging a big one, arent ya??



wow, really?? NO ONE THREATENED YOU. Geez, you really need to put down the pipe, "mate".



yep, youre just a real knight in shining armor, who's done nothing to help anyone, but takes credit for the actions of others. You have spent your whole time in this thread trying to distance YOURSELF from Shin, not trying to aid everyone else. Spare us the self-serving crapfest.

I have been dealing directly with you---youre telling everyone to stop dealing with you and deal with Shin instead. And we've already talked about that "transparency" thing. yeah....

Best of luck to you.

EDIT....

Is THIS how you advertise your business? By ripping off another company's copyrighted logo??

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwExFNLfKi-Zy0NJTmLkUNA

https://www.7-eleven.com/#

Ever heard of trademark infringement? Somehow, I'm guessing that 7-11 never gave you permission to use their logo design. Did you know that the ACTA Trade Agreement includes Japan, and allows for jail time and/or fines for copyright or trademark infringement??

Like I said, Adam, you should spend more time worrying about how to run your business and less time trying to tell everyone else what their business is. Free tip....next one, I'm going to send you a bill for.

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

I still want my damn refund!! Shin Sudo is scamming me. Do not trust this guy

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

Just an update. Still no refund from Shin Sudo. Do NOT send any money to rmagicsales you will get scammed.

rx7roller02

Shin, AKA R Magic USA, has been banned as of now.

garagemoose, I am going to contact the real R Magic for you. Since they seem to have endorsed Shin on their website, I am going to inform them that he has been banned here and that under their name he took your money without delivering anything. Let's see what they say about it.

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

Thank you. He will no longer respond to me. He is a thief and a scammer. Hopefully something can be done.

JBF

iTrader: (13)

This is unfortunate. I was looking forward to spending money...

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

Yes he stole 775.00 from me under rmagic name. Do not trust him. Spend money somewhere else.

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

Really hope this can be resolved. I always seem to get caught up in a scam. I trust people too easily I guess

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

So Paypal has decided to help me fight this!! XD

Circuit Theory

iTrader: (52)

Glad to hear it. And R-magic still has the promotion of shin up on their page...

Still working on bringing that up with them 10 days later...

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

Is your Paypal link to a Visa debit card, I had a issues few years back and went to bank and they refunded me and probably charge back Paypal.

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

Yes my visa is linked to my paypal. I have never had a problem with paypal.

garagemoose

iTrader: (3)

Got my money back from rmagicsales. Suck it Shin Sudo.

JSmall

Woo glad its been sorted now!

e-ville

so uhhh. what are the chances i could contact somebody to see if there are any left? lol

BLACK MAMBA

iTrader: (58)

Lol, did you go thru the whole thread and see all the hassle we went thru to get ours,
And you still want to send money to them.

misterstyx69

iTrader: (142)

You'd need a case of Vaseline afterwards to cure your sore ***..(from kicking it for sending this Idiot money)

This thread is now being Closed as the issue is DONE..the Vendor has been exposed as a "Fraud" and the Info will be retained in this Section for future inquiries.

STYX (MOD)