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Old 10-10-09, 07:03 PM
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Lightbulb GB: Bi-xenon HID PROJECTOR - SakeBomb Garage

SakeBomb Garage in conjunction with FDNewbie Imports presents:


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We all know that the stock headlights on the Rx-7 are vastly inadequate for driving at night. We finally decided to fix this problem once and for all. SakeBomb Garage is pleased to offer the first and only true 'pop-up' Bi-Xenon Projector HID kit for the FD.





FD owners: Welcome to the 21<sup>st</sup> Century.




HID Lighting 101:
Other HID “kits”
use the stock headlight housing in conjunction with a Xenon bulb. The plus side, they are unbelievably cheap. The negative side? Typically these setups:
-blind other drivers
-have a horrible field of view
-severely scatter the light
-have uneven lighting with no cutoff
-actually WORSEN your night vision (they throw intense light into the foreground (actually making your pupils close) causing your distance night-vision to become worse than with your stock halogen lights)

Projector HID's on the other hand are what is used in every OEM HID lighting setup. Our Projectors:
-Have a very even dispersion of light
-Have a very wide dispersion of light
-Have a very long throw (with high beams)
-Illuminate much larger portions of the road while not ruining your night vision
-Oh yeah, and they don't blind other drivers, or attract attention from people who may or may not drive Crown Victorias



To truly see the difference you need to see our kit in person, pictures honestly don’t do it justice.

The SakeBomb Garage Projector HID kit is plug and play. Simply pop out your own lights, trim the headlight bucket, pop in the new lights, and connect the ground and power cable.



HIGHLIGHTS:
~New headlight housings, with bi-xenon (high/low) projectors
~Optically clear projector lenses
~New (OEM) Philips 4300K bulbs.
~High quality 35 watt weatherproofed ballast
~Plug and play wiring harness specifically for the FD


At the request of a few forum members, we are offering as an option the Mistubishi Generation 4 35w OEM ballast, to replace the aftermarket ones included in our standard kit. Functionally these are the same 35w output as the aftermarket ballasts, so the light output will be the identical. It's basically a name brand vs generic choice, but we wanted to give people the option to choose.


Pricing:
$750 - Standard
$830 - Upgraded Ballasts

(Buyer pays actual shipping cost)



As you can clearly see (no pun intended ), these are not your cheap h4 conversion kit lights. There is an unbelievable amount of work which goes into creating each kit, but once you install these lights in your car you will quickly realize why you could NEVER go back to anything else! This kit, while retaining the stock appearance, brings to the FD the lighting quality and output of this decade!







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A couple quick videos:

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Can you show a picture of what you need to trim? Im very interested in these.
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looks pretty cool if you ask me, I don't drive my car often, but I might now =)
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Originally Posted by n rider89
Can you show a picture of what you need to trim? I'm very interested in these.


Just a small section of the back of the headlight bucket to clear the bulb connector




Originally Posted by rlee429
looks pretty cool if you ask me, I don't drive my car often, but I might now =)
I hit a deer 2 years ago in my FD because of the shitty stock lights... luckily I was driving UNDER the speed limit behind a truck. Could have easily totaled the car and almost went through the windshield!!! I always assumed I would have SOME time to react but it was literally 1/2 second from time time the lights dimly lit him up on the side of the road till he was in the air flying over the car upside down... I've got that snapshot ingrained in my memory. I'm running these lights on my car now and feel 100% safer driving at night, and especially at high speeds. Hell, I can actually SEE where I'm going now





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Ouch, actually when lights hit them they stop moving and freeze, you might stun them at a further distance now with these lights. If you want to talk about crappy lights drive an fb around, it's horrible.

I hate removing the head light covers, always a problem to realign them.
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I will be down for a set. Do you ship to the UK? Any idea of shipping cost?

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Originally Posted by Ceylon
I will be down for a set. Do you ship to the UK? Any idea of shipping cost?

Cheers

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Yes we do ship to the UK, although I have no idea what shipping would cost. I'll have Dan (the funky fresh shipping mastah) check. Oh yeah, we totally neglected to mention in the first post: We can make these with RHD beam patterns! (No extra cost... just specify beforehand)
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
Yes we do ship to the UK, although I have no idea what shipping would cost. I'll have Dan (the funky fresh shipping mastah) check. Oh yeah, we totally neglected to mention in the first post: We can make these with RHD beam patterns! (No extra cost... just specify beforehand)
That was my next question, thanks!

May be a good idea for me to pick up a scrub special oil cooler kit while I'm at it .
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Offer this for the FC....I shelled out about the same cost for a near custom dual projector housing setup that doesn't look as nice as a single housing like this..
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I just have to say that I've seen these in person and they are AMAZING, the pictures just can't do them justice! Heath and Dan of SakeBomb Garage will hook you up! Great work guys~
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Hey Dan,
What does the upgraded ballast do for you?
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Who makes the aftermarket ballast? Where is it made? Is there any kind of warranty offerred? In what capacity is FDNewbie Imports involved with this GB? Can we get some pictures of the actual hardware (not installed)? Since it doesn't appear that there's a price cut for larger numbers of buyers, do you ship the lights immediately after purchase? If not, how quickly can I expect to receive the lights after payment? That one's an important question to me because "you'll get them when you get them" doesn't work for a $750 item. Otherwise, the lights look great and I'm in.
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Not trying to be cynical, because I am VERY interested... but the price tag seems pretty steep.
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Originally Posted by Monkman33
Not trying to be cynical, because I am VERY interested... but the price tag seems pretty steep.
True projector housings new cost bank....all the housings that are under $100 for a pair on ebay are not projector housings. They'll make your light go everywhere. True projector housings like these I've seen go for over $800 for just the housings.
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I'm in for a set. How many do you need to start the GB?
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I'm in.

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Originally Posted by SmogSUX
True projector housings new cost bank....all the housings that are under $100 for a pair on ebay are not projector housings. They'll make your light go everywhere. True projector housings like these I've seen go for over $800 for just the housings.
Really? You can pick up a set of projectors with an internal cutoff line (so the light doesn't scatter) for about $70 or you can source a set of used OEM BMW or Mercedes ones for about $125. Both will work on FDs.

I really like this idea though and the product looks top-notch. Now how about making a set of sleepy eye HIDs for me? That would truly bring the FD up to-date.
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
Hey Dan,
What does the upgraded ballast do for you?
Peter, here ya go

Originally Posted by ScrubbyScrub
At the request of a few forum members, we are offering as an option the Mitsubishi Generation 4 35w OEM ballast, to replace the aftermarket ones included in our standard kit. Functionally these are the same 35w output as the aftermarket ballasts, so the light output will be the identical. It's basically a name brand vs generic choice, but we wanted to give people the option to choose.
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Originally Posted by David Hayes
Now how about making a set of sleepy eye HIDs for me? That would truly bring the FD up to-date.
I would much prefer this too.
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Originally Posted by Maximum
Who makes the aftermarket ballast? Where is it made? Is there any kind of warranty offerred? In what capacity is FDNewbie Imports involved with this GB? Can we get some pictures of the actual hardware (not installed)? Since it doesn't appear that there's a price cut for larger numbers of buyers, do you ship the lights immediately after purchase? If not, how quickly can I expect to receive the lights after payment? That one's an important question to me because "you'll get them when you get them" doesn't work for a $750 item. Otherwise, the lights look great and I'm in.
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This is not a... you will get them when you get them operation. I know what it's like being in a GB and simply being told to wait with my money on the line. So far our other GB's (oil coolers, and brake lines) have ran quite smoothly and efficiently, which also had to do with a great group of people in both of them !! Our coustomers frequently contact us personally, and we encourage that as we like to have a personal relationship with them. This is not just a business for us (and we actually make very little doing it)... we both just really love FD's and want to keep them on the road for at least another decade lol. We are (I think i can speak for dan when i say this) both obsessed with any modifications looking stock... so thats basically where we are coming from.


Originally Posted by Monkman33
Not trying to be cynical, because I am VERY interested... but the price tag seems pretty steep.
No offense taken We do realize they are expensive.... this is partly due to the fact that the components we use are high end and therefore expensive to begin with, and the fact that there is an unbelievable number of man hours that it takes to create each set. Dan and I will be creating and aiming these by hand, and the process is very tedious and laborious. It took some serious convincing on my part to get dan to (reluctantly ) agree to make these for other people. Honestly, there is an unbelievable amount of labor that goes into each kit. But considering the prices for some of the other junk that is out there... for OEM quality HID lighting, and (hopefully being able to avoid my next deer) I feel like the price is not bad. I do realize these are expensive though and take some serious thought before throwing down that amount of cash.

Originally Posted by 93silverbullet
I'm in for a set. How many do you need to start the GB?
Minimum of 15 to make this happen (sorry we forgot to post that earlier)
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Thanks for answering my questions and I appreciate the time frame. You still didn't respond as far as FDNewbie Imports involvement with this, can you please comment on it? I still haven't decided for sure whether I'll need OEM ballasts, but please consider me IN.

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Originally Posted by David Hayes
Really? You can pick up a set of projectors with an internal cutoff line (so the light doesn't scatter) for about $70 or you can source a set of used OEM BMW or Mercedes ones for about $125. Both will work on FDs.

I really like this idea though and the product looks top-notch. Now how about making a set of sleepy eye HIDs for me? That would truly bring the FD up to-date.
David, I think you are being a little misleading here... you could source a set of used OEM projectors, but they are about as easy to make work with the FD as your 20b was . well now I'M exaggerating lol, but the fact is there is a ton of work involved to do this and it's not possible to do this for cheap. You are saying that there are HID's with an "internal cutoff" for $70. Yes there are, they are called h4 hid's and use the stock lamp to reflect the light back out. I made a little slide show to educate people on the differences between OEM Projectors, and Reflector type HID setups.

While I dont want this thread to turn into a discussion thread (I'm happy to make a discussion thread and we can talk about it) I DO want to remove all of the confusion and misinformation floating around in regards to HIDs. This is a good source to start at http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

And there is a quick video halfway down the page which I also feel is worthwhile to watch for those that do not know much on the subject. Here's a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSS...layer_embedded

And to end... a quick slide show I put together. As I said, I don't want this to turn into a discussion thread, however, I feel that it's worthwhile to take a little time to educate people on WHY we bothered to go through all the trouble to create this kit. (Oh and for the record, sleepy eyes don't look "up to date" )







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The short story is FDNewbie is big, and SakeBomb Garage small (very small)... and Ramy basically made it possible for us to get started. That being said, you will be dealing with us directly. As far as ballasts go, its really up to you. Both have a 1yr warranty, the same output, and both are weatherproofed. Just a personal decision I supposed.
Originally Posted by Maximum
Thanks for answering my questions and I appreciate the time frame. You still didn't respond as far as FDNewbie Imports involvement with this, can you please comment on it? I still haven't decided for sure whether I'll need OEM ballasts, but please consider me IN.

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Very cool stuff guys. I'm not sure if I need them but they are definitely a nice piece of kit.


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