Maxxis RC-1 DOT-R tire is great
09-23-14, 12:31 PM
#1
Maxxis RC-1 DOT-R tire is great
I purchased the 255/40-17 Maxxis RC-1 DOT-R tire for my TII and I want to spread the word that this tire is awesome.
Previously, I raced and daily drove on 4x sets of Toyo RA-1, 3x sets of Nitto NT01.
One great thing about the Maxxis RC-1 is the operating temperature is 20 degrees F lower than the Toyo/Nitto DOT-R compound (140-210 F instead of 160-220 F). Note, its only 10 F lower on the hot end.
That is great for me because its a tire I can autocross, hillclimb, enduro and street drive without waiting for it to warm up or get greasy and lose grip.
Another great thing is that like the Toyo/Nitto compound they don't heat cycle out. They use a soft compound rubber instead of a compound that gets sticky with heat (mechanical grip vs chemical grip).
They are actually nicer on the street than the NT01 because they are quieter.
They are nicer on the track than the Toyo or Nitto because they don't have tread to squirm around and though it is subjective, I prefer their sidewall feel.
They feel fine as low as 25psi in the back on my 9.5" wide wheels and really put the power down this way.
Did I mention they cost less than NT01 even!
So, bottom line- try these tires.
We want them to get as popular as they should be so they start production on the 245/40-15 size that will be perfect FCs.
I am sick of seeing all this sky under all the FCs racing on 17s and 18s on this forum. I am tempted to run dualies so I can put 8x 205/50-15 RC-1s all around on my car.
Previously, I raced and daily drove on 4x sets of Toyo RA-1, 3x sets of Nitto NT01.
One great thing about the Maxxis RC-1 is the operating temperature is 20 degrees F lower than the Toyo/Nitto DOT-R compound (140-210 F instead of 160-220 F). Note, its only 10 F lower on the hot end.
That is great for me because its a tire I can autocross, hillclimb, enduro and street drive without waiting for it to warm up or get greasy and lose grip.
Another great thing is that like the Toyo/Nitto compound they don't heat cycle out. They use a soft compound rubber instead of a compound that gets sticky with heat (mechanical grip vs chemical grip).
They are actually nicer on the street than the NT01 because they are quieter.
They are nicer on the track than the Toyo or Nitto because they don't have tread to squirm around and though it is subjective, I prefer their sidewall feel.
They feel fine as low as 25psi in the back on my 9.5" wide wheels and really put the power down this way.
Did I mention they cost less than NT01 even!
So, bottom line- try these tires.
We want them to get as popular as they should be so they start production on the 245/40-15 size that will be perfect FCs.
I am sick of seeing all this sky under all the FCs racing on 17s and 18s on this forum. I am tempted to run dualies so I can put 8x 205/50-15 RC-1s all around on my car.
09-23-14, 12:40 PM
#2
Well crap.. you posted this a couple weeks too late 
I just bought another set of 255/40/17 NT01s, they are in the garage waiting to go on.
Am I reading this right? Do they offer these in a 275/35/17???
Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA
When I go to buy now I can't see that size offered for sale... That would be perfect for my FC.
I just bought another set of 255/40/17 NT01s, they are in the garage waiting to go on.Am I reading this right? Do they offer these in a 275/35/17???
Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA
When I go to buy now I can't see that size offered for sale... That would be perfect for my FC.
09-23-14, 12:56 PM
#3
They don't currently have a 275 in a 17". They only have a few sizes available:
205/50ZR15
225/45ZR17
235/40ZR17
255/40ZR17
275/35ZR18
If they have a size you can use, they are a very good tire. They also have a generous contingency plan if you compete in racing or time trials.
https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-w...-nt01-1057766/
205/50ZR15
225/45ZR17
235/40ZR17
255/40ZR17
275/35ZR18
If they have a size you can use, they are a very good tire. They also have a generous contingency plan if you compete in racing or time trials.
https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-w...-nt01-1057766/
09-23-14, 01:51 PM
#5
Sorry, realized I was looking at the 275/35-18 specs. They do list a 275/35-17 as a size, but it's not available to purchase. I will be anxiously awaiting that size at 24.6" diameter for a 275 width rubber with good wear characteristics. I run 255s up front because 275/40-17s are too tall for me up there.
That aside, I'm interested to hear further updates on the tire as I haven't run into many people using it at track days. I can get upwards of 45-55 heat cycles on a set of NT-01s before they cord, so I'd be interested to hear how long the Maxxis holds up. I don't drive my track wheels/tires on the street unless I'm bedding brakes or something.
That aside, I'm interested to hear further updates on the tire as I haven't run into many people using it at track days. I can get upwards of 45-55 heat cycles on a set of NT-01s before they cord, so I'd be interested to hear how long the Maxxis holds up. I don't drive my track wheels/tires on the street unless I'm bedding brakes or something.
09-23-14, 09:29 PM
#6
Just get some 275/35/15 Hoosier A6s and be done with it (or some AVONs for that matter)
but yeah... I would love a smaller diameter tire, but 245 doesn't cut it... (neither does a 275 )
I run 315/35/17 NT01s on the street because they do have some some tread.... I don't want to be insta-dead if it rains
(or some AVONs for that matter)but yeah... I would love a smaller diameter tire, but 245 doesn't cut it... (neither does a 275
)I run 315/35/17 NT01s on the street because they do have some some tread.... I don't want to be insta-dead if it rains
09-23-14, 10:08 PM
#7
Just get some 275/35/15 Hoosier A6s and be done with it (or some AVONs for that matter)
but yeah... I would love a smaller diameter tire, but 245 doesn't cut it... (neither does a 275 )
I run 315/35/17 NT01s on the street because they do have some some tread.... I don't want to be insta-dead if it rains
(or some AVONs for that matter)but yeah... I would love a smaller diameter tire, but 245 doesn't cut it... (neither does a 275
)I run 315/35/17 NT01s on the street because they do have some some tread.... I don't want to be insta-dead if it rains
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09-24-14, 08:38 AM
#8
Just get some 275/35/15 Hoosier A6s and be done with it (or some AVONs for that matter)
but yeah... I would love a smaller diameter tire, but 245 doesn't cut it... (neither does a 275 )
I run 315/35/17 NT01s on the street because they do have some some tread.... I don't want to be insta-dead if it rains
(or some AVONs for that matter)but yeah... I would love a smaller diameter tire, but 245 doesn't cut it... (neither does a 275
)I run 315/35/17 NT01s on the street because they do have some some tread.... I don't want to be insta-dead if it rains
09-24-14, 09:05 AM
#9
My point was it's not really an NT01 competitor, it's a Hoosier A6/R6 competitor, so yeah it's going to be a lot faster. but if you are willing to go with a zero tread pattern slick like that, there is already a 275/35/15 A6 you can run. (and a 245/40/15 A6 for that matter)
09-24-14, 11:06 AM
#10
My point was it's not really an NT01 competitor, it's a Hoosier A6/R6 competitor, so yeah it's going to be a lot faster. but if you are willing to go with a zero tread pattern slick like that, there is already a 275/35/15 A6 you can run. (and a 245/40/15 A6 for that matter)
If you are a time trial driver, they are the same points as NT01. The main difference being they have a contingency program with NASA were as Nitto does not...
09-24-14, 11:35 AM
#11
I am very excited to see Maxxis coming out with the 275/35 17! This is a fantastic tire size for the FD and should be relatively cheap. My guess is around $200 per tire.
This is NOT a Hoosier competitor! It is a 100 wear rating track day tire. Yes, it does not have tread and yes, I would not want to get caught in the rain with it but it does not compare to a Hoosier where you are likely to get 2 track days out of them (wear rating of 40!). These are most definitely an NT01/R888 competitor (also 100 wear rating).
I would not hesitate to run these on the street from everything I have read about them provided I am not driving my car in the rain (which I don't anyways).
What is also interesting is that it seems like there is a discrepancy between their website as to what sizes are available/soon to be available.
This lists the 275/35 17 but you can not buy it suggesting that is is soon to be available:
Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA
The above does not list a 275/40 17 (which would be excellent for the rear of a high powered FD).
This RC-1 website lists the 275/40 17 but not the 275/35 17:
Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA
I would love to run the 275/35 17 front and the 275/40 rear as I am building up a set of 17x10 front and 17x11 rear wheels...maybe a 315/35 17 NT01 rear...
Anyone know what is going on here?
This is NOT a Hoosier competitor! It is a 100 wear rating track day tire. Yes, it does not have tread and yes, I would not want to get caught in the rain with it but it does not compare to a Hoosier where you are likely to get 2 track days out of them (wear rating of 40!). These are most definitely an NT01/R888 competitor (also 100 wear rating).
I would not hesitate to run these on the street from everything I have read about them provided I am not driving my car in the rain (which I don't anyways).
What is also interesting is that it seems like there is a discrepancy between their website as to what sizes are available/soon to be available.
This lists the 275/35 17 but you can not buy it suggesting that is is soon to be available:
Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA
The above does not list a 275/40 17 (which would be excellent for the rear of a high powered FD).
This RC-1 website lists the 275/40 17 but not the 275/35 17:
Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA
I would love to run the 275/35 17 front and the 275/40 rear as I am building up a set of 17x10 front and 17x11 rear wheels...maybe a 315/35 17 NT01 rear...
Anyone know what is going on here?
09-24-14, 12:14 PM
#12
Yes, the Maxxis RC-1 is a good comparison to NT01/R888.
The only thing the RC-1 cannot do that the NT01/R888 can is pass for a fully treaded tire (when new) to qualify for Time Attack series racing- oh, and work as a rain tire!
Moot point in my opinion as the Hankook Ventus TD made the NT01/R888 irrelevant in Time Attack anyways.
The only thing the RC-1 cannot do that the NT01/R888 can is pass for a fully treaded tire (when new) to qualify for Time Attack series racing- oh, and work as a rain tire!
Moot point in my opinion as the Hankook Ventus TD made the NT01/R888 irrelevant in Time Attack anyways.
09-25-14, 04:41 PM
#14
This is NOT a Hoosier competitor! It is a 100 wear rating track day tire. Yes, it does not have tread and yes, I would not want to get caught in the rain with it but it does not compare to a Hoosier where you are likely to get 2 track days out of them (wear rating of 40!). These are most definitely an NT01/R888 competitor (also 100 wear rating).
They're now doing the same thing with the R1Rs, they're going to be 200tw next season instead of 140tw, the tire didn't change at all. just the solo rules...
Do you really think the A6 and the R6 wear the same? they're both 40 tw...
09-25-14, 05:41 PM
#15
Tread wear doesn't mean anything... the RA1 used to be 40 tw and they decided to change it to 100 tw without changing the compound at all, just the number on the molds...
Yes, actual use may show very different results from the UTQG rating shown on the sidewall.
I can tell you that I drive the Maxxis RC-1 on the streets and to events just like I did on the Toyo RA1 and Nitto NT01 (I actually daily drove on both those for years) and even the Hankook TDs saw much more time on the road than the track (I could simply not wear them out even when I took them off my FD and started racing/daily-ing/hooning them on my RX-8.)
Hoosiers wear very fast and aren't good street tires to begin with- I would not drive them 400 to 600 miles round trip to events and back like I do the 100/80 UTQG tires I mentioned above.
Hoosiers can go from ok to cords very fast and can be damaged by road debris/low air pressure easily as well.
You would have to have a major 100+ mph lockup on the above 100/80 UTQG tires when they are already worn out to manage getting to cords.
The Hankook TDs are by far the most delicate of the 100/80 utqg tires I have tried- I have actually chunked the treadcap at the sidewall junction a bit hammering on the track curbing.
The Hoosiers are lighter, faster, more all out race tires- but I wouldn't trust them anywhere besides the controlled environment of the track.
Yes, actual use may show very different results from the UTQG rating shown on the sidewall.
I can tell you that I drive the Maxxis RC-1 on the streets and to events just like I did on the Toyo RA1 and Nitto NT01 (I actually daily drove on both those for years) and even the Hankook TDs saw much more time on the road than the track (I could simply not wear them out even when I took them off my FD and started racing/daily-ing/hooning them on my RX-8.)
Hoosiers wear very fast and aren't good street tires to begin with- I would not drive them 400 to 600 miles round trip to events and back like I do the 100/80 UTQG tires I mentioned above.
Hoosiers can go from ok to cords very fast and can be damaged by road debris/low air pressure easily as well.
You would have to have a major 100+ mph lockup on the above 100/80 UTQG tires when they are already worn out to manage getting to cords.
The Hankook TDs are by far the most delicate of the 100/80 utqg tires I have tried- I have actually chunked the treadcap at the sidewall junction a bit hammering on the track curbing.
The Hoosiers are lighter, faster, more all out race tires- but I wouldn't trust them anywhere besides the controlled environment of the track.
09-28-14, 12:06 PM
#19
I am sure I would have to roll fenders, but I wonder if I would have clearance issues.
Should be ok with that 45 offset and front fender lips rolled under.
I run 295/30-18 on 18x11 +45 front/rear on my FD with rolled fenders and front camber maxed.
If the tire was any taller you would have problems with it hitting the rear bottom area of the front fender arch turning. If you have mud flaps it might rub those.
Should be ok with that 45 offset and front fender lips rolled under.
I run 295/30-18 on 18x11 +45 front/rear on my FD with rolled fenders and front camber maxed.
If the tire was any taller you would have problems with it hitting the rear bottom area of the front fender arch turning. If you have mud flaps it might rub those.
09-30-14, 12:20 PM
#22
+38 offset with 275 width will require a roll/pull on the front and a roll on the rear of an FD.
I ran +38 offset and was limited to 265 width with front fenders rolled and camber maxed. Stock rear fender lip barely scraped the sidewalls.
You want as close to a +45 offset to fit the widest tire on FD with lots of camber or as close to a +50 offset with minimal camber (camber depends on driving style).
275/35-17 is going to be a nice size, maybe I will go back to staggering the tires on my staggered rims on the FC.
I ran +38 offset and was limited to 265 width with front fenders rolled and camber maxed. Stock rear fender lip barely scraped the sidewalls.
You want as close to a +45 offset to fit the widest tire on FD with lots of camber or as close to a +50 offset with minimal camber (camber depends on driving style).
275/35-17 is going to be a nice size, maybe I will go back to staggering the tires on my staggered rims on the FC.
09-30-14, 05:18 PM
#24
Yeah, but my stupid wheels are staggered on the FC. Only 8.5 wide front 9.5 rear so 275 would feel even more gross up front than my current 255.
Already compromising as I prefer the steering feel and suspension travel of a 235/40-17, but I hate the understeer and braking compared to the 255/40-17 I am running front/rear now.
I actually have some room to spare to the outside of stock rolled front fenders with the current 255 and 3.6 deg camber.
Like I said earlier though, if I am buying new wheels I want some 15x10 for the 22.5" tall 245/40-15 to get the car down on the ground!
Already compromising as I prefer the steering feel and suspension travel of a 235/40-17, but I hate the understeer and braking compared to the 255/40-17 I am running front/rear now.
I actually have some room to spare to the outside of stock rolled front fenders with the current 255 and 3.6 deg camber.
Like I said earlier though, if I am buying new wheels I want some 15x10 for the 22.5" tall 245/40-15 to get the car down on the ground!
09-30-14, 08:49 PM
#25
I have 255 NT01s all around on 17x9 +24. The 255s are decent for me but 275s would really help. 235s won't cut it. I can't run 15s because they won't allow enough brake. The NT01 is a really large 255. How does the Maxxis 255 compare? The spec sheet says the RC1 is .15" wider in a 255 size than the NT01.
17x9+35 to 38 could work all around with a rear fender pull and a wider front fender and a spacer up front. It is too close to call if they would fit the car with my current wheels with stock fenders.
This might be the magic tire for me if they end up being as durable as NT01s
17x9+35 to 38 could work all around with a rear fender pull and a wider front fender and a spacer up front. It is too close to call if they would fit the car with my current wheels with stock fenders.
This might be the magic tire for me if they end up being as durable as NT01s