Big Boy ignition and injection Qs
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Big Boy ignition and injection Qs
Alright i am in the process of buying an ign. system supporting 600hp. I have decided to go with (4) MSD 6a boxes and FC coils, with 11.5 NGKs.
1st Q- What kind of leads should i get?
2nd- What is the part # for TII coils, or can i just get some used ones?
My other q is i am planning on using BiStates injection system which allows you to inject Methanol, alcohol, or H20. I have read a few very imformative posts about the subject after doing a search but have never seen a pro/con list of each and an overall rating of each. I was thinking water/ alcohol for the street and Methanol for the track. What do you guys think( RICE, RX_Rotary, AJ, any other person with ALOT of knowledge and experience).
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1st Q- What kind of leads should i get?
2nd- What is the part # for TII coils, or can i just get some used ones?
My other q is i am planning on using BiStates injection system which allows you to inject Methanol, alcohol, or H20. I have read a few very imformative posts about the subject after doing a search but have never seen a pro/con list of each and an overall rating of each. I was thinking water/ alcohol for the street and Methanol for the track. What do you guys think( RICE, RX_Rotary, AJ, any other person with ALOT of knowledge and experience).
Thanks
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don't go w/ fc coils, get individual msd hvcii coils instead. use custom msd plug wires. just use straight water, unless it gets below freezing, and just tune for that. it's harder to tune for the different ratios of methanol, as methanol is fuel and will affect your a/f ratios.
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don't go w/ fc coils, get individual msd hvcii coils instead. use custom msd plug wires. just use straight water, unless it gets below freezing, and just tune for that. it's harder to tune for the different ratios of methanol, as methanol is fuel and will affect your a/f ratios.
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Originally posted by fdracer
don't go w/ fc coils, get individual msd hvcii coils instead. use custom msd plug wires. just use straight water, unless it gets below freezing, and just tune for that. it's harder to tune for the different ratios of methanol, as methanol is fuel and will affect your a/f ratios.
don't go w/ fc coils, get individual msd hvcii coils instead. use custom msd plug wires. just use straight water, unless it gets below freezing, and just tune for that. it's harder to tune for the different ratios of methanol, as methanol is fuel and will affect your a/f ratios.
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you stated you wanted a big boy ignition system, and individual hvcii coils are the best in the business. all the drag guys use this setup, because they couldn't even light the spark w/ all the boost and fuel they were cramming into their engines. keep in mind these guys are running 50+ lbs. of boost, run methanol, and make over 250rwhp per cylinder. check out abel's and shaun's ingition systems in the links. if you want good enough ignition system, then go w/ the tii coils, but if you want a big boy ignition system, as you stated, this is the way to go. as for the wires, the msd has the lowest resistance and you can buy the unfinished v8 kit and configure it to your liking. as for the meth inj., a meth/water mix barely makes more power than water alone. it doesn't outweight the disadvantages that it's harder to tune, meth is corrosive to internal components, lines, and seals, and it can gum up if it sits for too long.
http://modified.com/apps/gallery/gal...012.JPG&page=1
you stated you wanted a big boy ignition system, and individual hvcii coils are the best in the business. all the drag guys use this setup, because they couldn't even light the spark w/ all the boost and fuel they were cramming into their engines. keep in mind these guys are running 50+ lbs. of boost, run methanol, and make over 250rwhp per cylinder. check out abel's and shaun's ingition systems in the links. if you want good enough ignition system, then go w/ the tii coils, but if you want a big boy ignition system, as you stated, this is the way to go. as for the wires, the msd has the lowest resistance and you can buy the unfinished v8 kit and configure it to your liking. as for the meth inj., a meth/water mix barely makes more power than water alone. it doesn't outweight the disadvantages that it's harder to tune, meth is corrosive to internal components, lines, and seals, and it can gum up if it sits for too long.
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My stock FC coils with MSD 6AL's have supported way over 700 rwhp at 9 to 10k rpm with no misfire problems.
I have always made more power injecting methanol at 100% without any water. I've seen up to 60 rwhp on 93 octane with just Methanol. That's just in my experience though!
hint: Most of the smart people that I know of are actualy mixing nitro-methane in their methanol/alcohol injection kits.
I have always made more power injecting methanol at 100% without any water. I've seen up to 60 rwhp on 93 octane with just Methanol. That's just in my experience though!
hint: Most of the smart people that I know of are actualy mixing nitro-methane in their methanol/alcohol injection kits.
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Chris, hey whats up. Its JT. I am going to try to get down to your shop sometime this week to talk over some stuff with you about the show as well as some stuff about my car. I am planning to buy (3) 6al boxes. I also got off the phone with the company sponsoring the turbo and injection kit and they also recommended running 100% meoh. Please PM me the directions to the shop, and we'll go over whats going on. Thanks Chris
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Originally posted by crispeed
My stock FC coils with MSD 6AL's have supported way over 700 rwhp at 9 to 10k rpm with no misfire problems.
I have always made more power injecting methanol at 100% without any water. I've seen up to 60 rwhp on 93 octane with just Methanol. That's just in my experience though!
hint: Most of the smart people that I know of are actualy mixing nitro-methane in their methanol/alcohol injection kits.
My stock FC coils with MSD 6AL's have supported way over 700 rwhp at 9 to 10k rpm with no misfire problems.
I have always made more power injecting methanol at 100% without any water. I've seen up to 60 rwhp on 93 octane with just Methanol. That's just in my experience though!
hint: Most of the smart people that I know of are actualy mixing nitro-methane in their methanol/alcohol injection kits.
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yea i guess it just depends, i heard today talking with one of my Mustang buddies that the C5 vette coils are bad *** so that may be another option as they are only like $38 a peice
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yea i guess it just depends, i heard today talking with one of my Mustang buddies that the C5 vette coils are bad *** so that may be another option as they are only like $38 a peice
yea i guess it just depends, i heard today talking with one of my Mustang buddies that the C5 vette coils are bad *** so that may be another option as they are only like $38 a peice
It's always better to use the coil recommended by the Ignition amplifier manufacturer.
When it comes to MSD's I don't recommend the blaster coils though. I've had very bad luck with those coils cracking and cross firing. The newer HVC coils seemed to be better designed although I've not actualy tested any.
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