60-1 specs
08-07-03, 10:42 AM
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Sorry about the mistake guys
Trim formula works exactly the same for comp and ex sides but the wording is flip-flopped when you use the Exducer and Inducer. Please disregard the ex side formula in my orginal post.
Trim formula works exactly the same for comp and ex sides but the wording is flip-flopped when you use the Exducer and Inducer. Please disregard the ex side formula in my orginal post.
08-07-03, 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by surfpac
That is the same 60-1 setup my friend has on his TII. He dynoed at 410rwhp at 18psi but he has ported motor, Haltech, MSD ignition, RB turbo back exhaust. You will be happy with that 60-1 setup.
That is the same 60-1 setup my friend has on his TII. He dynoed at 410rwhp at 18psi but he has ported motor, Haltech, MSD ignition, RB turbo back exhaust. You will be happy with that 60-1 setup.
08-07-03, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
What happens at higher boost levels, say 20+psi? I am going to have the motor ported, a microtech dyno tuned and full 3" exhaust. How soon will boost come on and be at full? If he got 410 at 18, I would hope 425 or so should be possible at 20psi, correct? Thanks for the info. Oh and what manifold does he have, and does have a "wet" turbo?
What happens at higher boost levels, say 20+psi? I am going to have the motor ported, a microtech dyno tuned and full 3" exhaust. How soon will boost come on and be at full? If he got 410 at 18, I would hope 425 or so should be possible at 20psi, correct? Thanks for the info. Oh and what manifold does he have, and does have a "wet" turbo?
08-07-03, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by 1FastT2
The 60-1 compressors effiency starts to drop off at anything over 15psi, meaning that anything over and your intake temp will begin to go up pretty quickly. If you wanna run 20 psi get a different turbo.
The 60-1 compressors effiency starts to drop off at anything over 15psi, meaning that anything over and your intake temp will begin to go up pretty quickly. If you wanna run 20 psi get a different turbo.
I just am trying to stick with a T04, but want to get really close to 450. I just asked about 20psi, because if I have to go that high to get the power I want then I would. I know you are trying for a 10.99, is that with your T04B or another turbo?
08-07-03, 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
Hey if I could run 2psi and get me really close to 450rwhp of useable power I'm good with it I just am trying to stick with a T04, but want to get really close to 450. I just asked about 20psi, because if I have to go that high to get the power I want then I would. I know you are trying for a 10.99, is that with your T04B or another turbo?
Hey if I could run 2psi and get me really close to 450rwhp of useable power I'm good with it
I just am trying to stick with a T04, but want to get really close to 450. I just asked about 20psi, because if I have to go that high to get the power I want then I would. I know you are trying for a 10.99, is that with your T04B or another turbo?
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Originally posted by 1FastT2
450rwhp can be had with a TO4, maybe you want to look into a 62-1 or even a 68-1. As far as me running a 10.99 with the turbo I have im almost there, well as far as HP is concerned.
450rwhp can be had with a TO4, maybe you want to look into a 62-1 or even a 68-1. As far as me running a 10.99 with the turbo I have im almost there, well as far as HP is concerned.
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
What exactly would a turbo be called with a 62-1(can you have a T04S 62-1)? Will it fit a standard T04 manifold? Any websites to get one for a good price? Thanks alot.
What exactly would a turbo be called with a 62-1(can you have a T04S 62-1)? Will it fit a standard T04 manifold? Any websites to get one for a good price? Thanks alot.
08-07-03, 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by 1FastT2
60-1, 62-1 and 68-1 are all compressors made by Turbonetics. And all bolt to a TO4 based turbo.
60-1, 62-1 and 68-1 are all compressors made by Turbonetics. And all bolt to a TO4 based turbo.
Also, where can I get a fully divided manifold for my TII? Thanks alot.
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hey guys this thread has a huge amount of info!
i have a series4 extend ported motor wich has been dowlled aswell im using a t04/e with a 58mmfront wheel (inducer) .70compressor cover and a 1.00ar rear im having it tuned in a few weeks and was going to push it to 18psi will it still be in its effeciency range or not?
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johnny from downunder!
i have a series4 extend ported motor wich has been dowlled aswell im using a t04/e with a 58mmfront wheel (inducer) .70compressor cover and a 1.00ar rear im having it tuned in a few weeks and was going to push it to 18psi will it still be in its effeciency range or not?
thanks
johnny from downunder!
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how about getting a 62-1 wheel hybrid .70 a/r.? how bad will the stock hot side hold me back... even if trimmed.
there is a buy making custom devided tube mani's for what ever setup you want. he charged a 1st gen buddy of mine 250 with a stock tii flange. Moved the turbo up and forward so it clears everything.
So getting a manifold from him i could get one with a stock flange and run a 62-1 hybrid... but im not sure if the hot side will kill the idea. I was planning on getting a 60trim hybrid for it but it looks like a 62-1 wheel is more what im looking for.
Turbocalculator have 62-1 turbos for a decent price but i can get my turbo done up locally for MUCH cheaper. is it worth the extra to go with the full upgrade?
there is a buy making custom devided tube mani's for what ever setup you want. he charged a 1st gen buddy of mine 250 with a stock tii flange. Moved the turbo up and forward so it clears everything.
So getting a manifold from him i could get one with a stock flange and run a 62-1 hybrid... but im not sure if the hot side will kill the idea. I was planning on getting a 60trim hybrid for it but it looks like a 62-1 wheel is more what im looking for.
Turbocalculator have 62-1 turbos for a decent price but i can get my turbo done up locally for MUCH cheaper. is it worth the extra to go with the full upgrade?
07-26-05, 05:08 AM
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NO,
the guy doesnt know what hes talking about or hes giving you a tiny turbo. A 60-1 (which in rotary turbo talk) is a T04B 60 trim aka: T60, T04B 60 trim, T04B 60-1, T04s, T60-1, 60-1...... different turbo companies give it different names and people on forums confuss names but all in all is the same exact wheel......ALL are Garratt clones..... some companies back cut the wheel so only their backplates and housings will fit and give it different names so theirs seem special, but there NOT. As stated before.... the 60-1 has a 2.324 INCH inducer which works out to be 59.03 mm, very close to 60mm, BUT THATS THE INDUCER DIAMETER....... When turbo people talk about compressor wheel diameter it is usually the EXDUCER or biggest part of the wheel. (i have yet hear someone refer to inducer diameter size to describe a wheel). The 60-1 has a 3.00 INCH EXDUCER which equals 76.2 mm. Make sure this guy is meeting the specs I just gave you........ he SHOULD know exactly what wheel you want simply by saying "T04B 60-1".......... or to be really specific tell him "T04B series 60-1 {or 60 trim} 2.324 inch inducer and 3 inch exducer". If the guy still has no clue be weary about his turbo knowledge. If you loose confidense in the guy hit me up, I'm able to get Garratt turbos at wholesale NEW any style or trim.
As I said before, Trim is NOT I REPEAT NOT wheel diameter neither major nor minor (inducer and exducer) diameters. Trim is a RATIO of BOTH wheel diameters. If anyone says differently, they are WRONG when it comes to Garratt or Garratt clones.
~Mike............
the guy doesnt know what hes talking about or hes giving you a tiny turbo. A 60-1 (which in rotary turbo talk) is a T04B 60 trim aka: T60, T04B 60 trim, T04B 60-1, T04s, T60-1, 60-1...... different turbo companies give it different names and people on forums confuss names but all in all is the same exact wheel......ALL are Garratt clones..... some companies back cut the wheel so only their backplates and housings will fit and give it different names so theirs seem special, but there NOT. As stated before.... the 60-1 has a 2.324 INCH inducer which works out to be 59.03 mm, very close to 60mm, BUT THATS THE INDUCER DIAMETER....... When turbo people talk about compressor wheel diameter it is usually the EXDUCER or biggest part of the wheel. (i have yet hear someone refer to inducer diameter size to describe a wheel). The 60-1 has a 3.00 INCH EXDUCER which equals 76.2 mm. Make sure this guy is meeting the specs I just gave you........ he SHOULD know exactly what wheel you want simply by saying "T04B 60-1".......... or to be really specific tell him "T04B series 60-1 {or 60 trim} 2.324 inch inducer and 3 inch exducer". If the guy still has no clue be weary about his turbo knowledge. If you loose confidense in the guy hit me up, I'm able to get Garratt turbos at wholesale NEW any style or trim.
As I said before, Trim is NOT I REPEAT NOT wheel diameter neither major nor minor (inducer and exducer) diameters. Trim is a RATIO of BOTH wheel diameters. If anyone says differently, they are WRONG when it comes to Garratt or Garratt clones.
~Mike............
The wheels are very different!
A to4b 60 trim, to4b 60-1 and t61 are all different Garrett wheels and not the same spec with just a different names.
Garretts to4b 60 trim, some to4b's use smaller 2.75" majors giving a 60 trim wheel an inducer size of 2.13"
Garretts to4b 60-1 has larger (super size) 3" major than most to4b's
Garretts t61, this is has smaller trim but larger major than the 60-1. the t61 has an inducer that measure 61mm but basicaly a much larger wheel than the 60-1.
I think its important to specify 60-1 wheel.
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