can a PP13b single turbo make 1000hp?
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I highly doubt it. Well, not reliably at all I would think. Obviously im not an expert, so we'll wait for others to chime in.
To give you an idea, I saw a 20B PP single turbo in turbo and high tech performance, it was making like around 1000hp as far as I remember. I really think you need that extra 3rd rotor.
To give you an idea, I saw a 20B PP single turbo in turbo and high tech performance, it was making like around 1000hp as far as I remember. I really think you need that extra 3rd rotor.
Originally Posted by Bluem
here theres a new 3-rotor pp single turbo pushing about 1,300hp
Last I heard about PP + turbo, was that it is an extremely hard combination to tune, some people say it not worth it.
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^^^ That is rather tasty looking..
But kinda deflates when you consider AFR has a street driven fd with 850 rwhp on a 13b pport T51 . You would think all that hardware on the 13g would add up to more hp than that..Not to beat up on racing beat, but their project motors hp always seems a little low for all that exotic hardware and budget involved..Max
But kinda deflates when you consider AFR has a street driven fd with 850 rwhp on a 13b pport T51 . You would think all that hardware on the 13g would add up to more hp than that..Not to beat up on racing beat, but their project motors hp always seems a little low for all that exotic hardware and budget involved..Max
I live in an igloo
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I would think that the difference between AFR's engine and racing beats engine regardless of cost would be a much longer reliability maybe? not to sure, don't flame me 
Originally Posted by Maxthe7man
^^^ That is rather tasty looking..
But kinda deflates when you consider AFR has a street driven fd with 850 rwhp on a 13b pport T51 . You would think all that hardware on the 13g would add up to more hp than that..Not to beat up on racing beat, but their project motors hp always seems a little low for all that exotic hardware and budget involved..Max
But kinda deflates when you consider AFR has a street driven fd with 850 rwhp on a 13b pport T51 . You would think all that hardware on the 13g would add up to more hp than that..Not to beat up on racing beat, but their project motors hp always seems a little low for all that exotic hardware and budget involved..Max
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I've seen some dynos in the mid to high 800 rwhp.
Ken Schepers Rx-8 made high 800's on a Mustang dyno and 940 rwhp on a Dynojet and that's with a side port 13b motor.
Ken Schepers Rx-8 made high 800's on a Mustang dyno and 940 rwhp on a Dynojet and that's with a side port 13b motor.
Last edited by crispeed; Jul 5, 2005 at 03:56 PM.
Originally Posted by crispeed
I've seen some dynos in the mid to high 800 rwhp.
Ken Schepers Rx-8 made high 800's on a Mustang dyno and 940 rwhp on a Dynojet and that's with a side port 13b motor.
Ken Schepers Rx-8 made high 800's on a Mustang dyno and 940 rwhp on a Dynojet and that's with a side port 13b motor.
Side port!
Damn how much boost did that take to make that much?
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Originally Posted by rx72c
1000hp isnt impossible.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
GT42 although looks big, it wont' make that kind of power(on a rotary)..
Good turbo for a street car though..
Two GT35 would do it but 1000hp at the rear wheels is not easy to make with two rotors but not impossible!!! 950 is the most i've ever heard of.
that's 475hp per rotor!!! That's Serious!
I'm sure someone will figure out how to get 500 per rotor.
I think PP Turbo w/ meth is the way to do it...
Rotors keep you going
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Originally Posted by rx72c
1000hp isnt impossible.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
