CoolingMist Water Injection Installed.
03-25-05, 10:34 PM
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CoolingMist Water Injection Installed.
Just sharing.
I ordered a kit from the group buy and it was here before I could blink. The install is very straight forward.
I have absolutely no space under my hood to mount the water pump so I installed it in the rear where the jack used to be. Then ran the water pickup to the passenger side bin. I used some NP fittings and ran the hose through the bin and just having it picking up from a bottle in the bin. No bottle there yet...Actually thinking of just making a water proof partition and just making the passenger bin my WI bottle
The install took me about 8 hours..Mainly becuase I ripped out all my rear plastic out including the bins...Then I soldered and heat shrunk all my connections and just tried my best to do a pro job...
First thing we did was to put the injector in the windshield and go for a run...came on right around 8-9psi and gave a nice mist....Funny because me and my bud were ready to hit the road and test it and then realised we didn't even have any water..
So there we are screaming down city streets with my friend in the passenger seat holding a gallon bottle of water the hose sticking in it. Seems to work fine...Haven't driven it since I drilled and tapped the greddy elbow for the injector so that will be tomorrow. Also still have to wire in a switch to turn it on and off.
Here are some photos.
This is a shot of the injector in the windshielf after we went for a test run.
Where I mounted the pump and ran the lines.
Here's the filter on the injector after I tapped the greddy elbow and screwed it in.
Complete assembly in the elbow....Thinking about getting the right angle connection for injector...Just seems like it would make the mist flow better....That should probably come with the kit but it's optional.
This is where I drilled and installed the NP fittings in the passenger bin (this is the back side of the bin).
I ordered a kit from the group buy and it was here before I could blink. The install is very straight forward.
I have absolutely no space under my hood to mount the water pump so I installed it in the rear where the jack used to be. Then ran the water pickup to the passenger side bin. I used some NP fittings and ran the hose through the bin and just having it picking up from a bottle in the bin. No bottle there yet...Actually thinking of just making a water proof partition and just making the passenger bin my WI bottle
The install took me about 8 hours..Mainly becuase I ripped out all my rear plastic out including the bins...Then I soldered and heat shrunk all my connections and just tried my best to do a pro job...
First thing we did was to put the injector in the windshield and go for a run...came on right around 8-9psi and gave a nice mist....Funny because me and my bud were ready to hit the road and test it and then realised we didn't even have any water
..So there we are screaming down city streets with my friend in the passenger seat holding a gallon bottle of water the hose sticking in it. Seems to work fine...Haven't driven it since I drilled and tapped the greddy elbow for the injector so that will be tomorrow. Also still have to wire in a switch to turn it on and off.
Here are some photos.
This is a shot of the injector in the windshielf after we went for a test run.
Where I mounted the pump and ran the lines.
Here's the filter on the injector after I tapped the greddy elbow and screwed it in.
Complete assembly in the elbow....Thinking about getting the right angle connection for injector...Just seems like it would make the mist flow better....That should probably come with the kit but it's optional.
This is where I drilled and installed the NP fittings in the passenger bin (this is the back side of the bin).
03-25-05, 10:37 PM
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This is the pickup in the bin
And here's when the pump assembly is all covered up...I will install a water filter in that black hose running across the pump...I placed it there so it will be pretty easy to swap filters.
And here's when the pump assembly is all covered up...I will install a water filter in that black hose running across the pump...I placed it there so it will be pretty easy to swap filters.
03-26-05, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Madmax670
what is the purpose of water injection?
No, really. You can lower you intake temps with water injection....lower intake temps mean more hp....If you don't tune for it, then it's more of a security device against detonation. Some people actually tune with the water injection but IMO it's a bit risky since you are fooked if you run out of water or the WI system fails.
03-26-05, 04:00 AM
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I am in on the group buy too. Can't wait to start the install.
Nice job dude, very clean.
I am just trying to decide where to put the pump and tank. I don't want to lose my jack, and cos my car is JDM, I got no storage bin, just minature back seats.
Nice job dude, very clean.
I am just trying to decide where to put the pump and tank. I don't want to lose my jack, and cos my car is JDM, I got no storage bin, just minature back seats.
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03-26-05, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrub
hmm, I have way to many projects going on right now to be doing the water injection. How much did you pay for it? I'd like to get it eventually....very clean install btw
Originally Posted by coolingmist
Thanks for reading this. We had a very successful group buy last summer and would like to offer another. Thanks to jason for letting us post this.
Our prices will be below. We have 4 different kits that will qualify for the group buy. The sales breakdown will be 1-4, 5-10, 11-15 and 16+. We can sell any combination of kits to get the discount. In otherwords if we sell 6 kits you get the 5-10 price break on any of the kits. Last summer we sold well over 20 kits during our group buy so its very possible to hit the special price break at 16.
Our kits all come with a 90 day warranty.
The group buy will run until March 31, 2005. If you are interested in a kit, you have several options:
1) leave a $100 deposit for the kit. You do not have to pay the balance until April 3, 2005. You will owe balance on the kit at what ever the price break is.
2) You can pay in full for the kit now, it ships the same day you make payment. We will refund the balance of the group buy to your card or paypal account when the group buy finishes.
If you are in and want to leave a deposit I will create a link where you can pay your deposit on our secure server with a credit card or paypal account. You will need to create an account on our site and go through our checkout process. This will keep your address and payment information on our server so we can keep track of your order, etc. Shipping runs $15 on each kit domestic.
We tried this approach last time and had great success with it.
We would sell the kits at discount prices from the following sales
Delux Dual Stage Kit Performance Package
read about it here:
http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=01P
Retails for $499.
1-4
Group by price $479
5-10
Group buy price $445
11-15
group buy price $399
16+
375
Our Deluxe Dual Stage Kit:
Read about it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=01
Retails for $349
1-4
Group by price $329
5-10
Group buy price $300
11-15
group buy price $285
16+
$275
Our Single Stage Performance Package:
Read about it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=02P
Retails for $359
1-4
Group by price $339
5-10
Group buy price $325
11-15
group buy price $315
16+
299
Deluxe Single Stage Kit
See it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=02
retails for 239
1-4
Group by price $229
5-10
Group buy price $215
11-15
group buy price $210
16+
200
Our prices will be below. We have 4 different kits that will qualify for the group buy. The sales breakdown will be 1-4, 5-10, 11-15 and 16+. We can sell any combination of kits to get the discount. In otherwords if we sell 6 kits you get the 5-10 price break on any of the kits. Last summer we sold well over 20 kits during our group buy so its very possible to hit the special price break at 16.
Our kits all come with a 90 day warranty.
The group buy will run until March 31, 2005. If you are interested in a kit, you have several options:
1) leave a $100 deposit for the kit. You do not have to pay the balance until April 3, 2005. You will owe balance on the kit at what ever the price break is.
2) You can pay in full for the kit now, it ships the same day you make payment. We will refund the balance of the group buy to your card or paypal account when the group buy finishes.
If you are in and want to leave a deposit I will create a link where you can pay your deposit on our secure server with a credit card or paypal account. You will need to create an account on our site and go through our checkout process. This will keep your address and payment information on our server so we can keep track of your order, etc. Shipping runs $15 on each kit domestic.
We tried this approach last time and had great success with it.
We would sell the kits at discount prices from the following sales
Delux Dual Stage Kit Performance Package
read about it here:
http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=01P
Retails for $499.
1-4
Group by price $479
5-10
Group buy price $445
11-15
group buy price $399
16+
375
Our Deluxe Dual Stage Kit:
Read about it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=01
Retails for $349
1-4
Group by price $329
5-10
Group buy price $300
11-15
group buy price $285
16+
$275
Our Single Stage Performance Package:
Read about it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=02P
Retails for $359
1-4
Group by price $339
5-10
Group buy price $325
11-15
group buy price $315
16+
299
Deluxe Single Stage Kit
See it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=02
retails for 239
1-4
Group by price $229
5-10
Group buy price $215
11-15
group buy price $210
16+
200
03-26-05, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio
Maybe I missed it, but which kit did you get?
See it here: http://www.coolingmist.com/detail.aspx?pid=02
retails for 239
1-4
Group by price $229
5-10
Group buy price $215
11-15
group buy price $210
16+
200
03-26-05, 10:49 AM
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Mine is on the way. I cant wait to get it. I dont feel like blowing another motor, so I am getting some insurance . Nice install man, you look like your were pretty meticulous with the install. Post on the difference in feel between having it on and having it off. Please be honest with your post (dont say it feels much better if it doesnt just to try to convince yourself something, lol) Peace out, and I am looking forward to reading your review (good or bad).
Adam
. Nice install man, you look like your were pretty meticulous with the install. Post on the difference in feel between having it on and having it off. Please be honest with your post (dont say it feels much better if it doesnt just to try to convince yourself something, lol) Peace out, and I am looking forward to reading your review (good or bad).Adam
03-26-05, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by fastcarfreak
Mine is on the way. I cant wait to get it. I dont feel like blowing another motor, so I am getting some insurance . Nice install man, you look like your were pretty meticulous with the install. Post on the difference in feel between having it on and having it off. Please be honest with your post (dont say it feels much better if it doesnt just to try to convince yourself something, lol) Peace out, and I am looking forward to reading your review (good or bad).
Adam
. Nice install man, you look like your were pretty meticulous with the install. Post on the difference in feel between having it on and having it off. Please be honest with your post (dont say it feels much better if it doesnt just to try to convince yourself something, lol) Peace out, and I am looking forward to reading your review (good or bad).Adam
03-26-05, 12:11 PM
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There was an old post by Zerobanger (David) of Coolingmist when he ran his car in the 1/4....basically there was no change in his trap speeds, which is expected as he wasn't (and didn't) want to tune for WI. The thing that he did notice was that his knock reading on his PFC went down into the single digits. Also there was a subjective feeling that the car seemed to "pull" harder almost like the feeling of driving the car during a cold night.
Apnea, are you going to tune for WI then? What are you going to aim your AFR for?
Also, I was just wondering about spark plugs as in an older post. Would running a colder plug be inappropriate with a WI system and much better with the stock "hotter" plugs?
Apnea, are you going to tune for WI then? What are you going to aim your AFR for?
Also, I was just wondering about spark plugs as in an older post. Would running a colder plug be inappropriate with a WI system and much better with the stock "hotter" plugs?
03-26-05, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 7racer
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Apnea, are you going to tune for WI then? What are you going to aim your AFR for?
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Apnea, are you going to tune for WI then? What are you going to aim your AFR for?
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03-26-05, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by J_J
I've got the same dual-stage kit.
I had the reservoir and pump mounted in the trunk though.
I had the reservoir and pump mounted in the trunk though.
03-26-05, 01:31 PM
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Apnea,
I have my parts splayed out on the kitchen table trying to imagine where I going to put everything. Where did you install your harness? Can you take some pics?
I have my parts splayed out on the kitchen table trying to imagine where I going to put everything. Where did you install your harness? Can you take some pics?
03-26-05, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by apneablue
Have anything to add about how the car feels with / without WI?
03-26-05, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by J_J
I thought it's not supposed to make a difference at all in feel? I basically haven't noticed anything different about the car...but I feel a lot more at ease when driving the car now that water injection is installed.
03-26-05, 04:18 PM
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Have you noticed it pulled harder? I'm not really sure since most of my driving is on the freeway. I think some people are injecting methanol for detonation resistance and potential higher power output, but water is supposed to have better heat absorbing qualities than fuel so I've been using just water.
Last edited by J_J; 03-26-05 at 04:26 PM.
03-26-05, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 7racer
Apnea,
I have my parts splayed out on the kitchen table trying to imagine where I going to put everything. Where did you install your harness? Can you take some pics?
I have my parts splayed out on the kitchen table trying to imagine where I going to put everything. Where did you install your harness? Can you take some pics?
The relay is just hanging out right here now but I will use a self tapping screw and screw it in right beside the twin power.
The water solonid I ty-wrapped it to the metal bracket right beside the brake/clutch fluid resovor (sp).
Be sure to use that pipe thread tape on all your NP connections or the will leak for sure.
03-26-05, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by J_J
Have you noticed it pulled harder? I'm not really sure since most of my driving is on the freeway. I think some people are injecting methanol for detonation resistance and potential higher power output, but water is supposed to have better heat absorbing qualities than fuel so I've been using just water.
I wonder if water injection can make more power power indirectly, like lowering knock noise picked up by the sensor or modifying running conditions which in turn permits the ecu to run more aggressive timing.
I wonder if water injection can make more power power indirectly, like lowering knock noise picked up by the sensor or modifying running conditions which in turn permits the ecu to run more aggressive timing.
I know some people are using a methanol/water mix...like a 50/50 mix or something. But then i read that methanol will dry out your seals..any truth to this?
