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Old 01-12-11, 10:17 PM
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What motor FD or TII?
I will be using all FD engine parts, except the rotors and e-shaft.
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machined 2mm Renesis maybe?
Old 01-14-11, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by enzo250
It'll will be fun travieso.
It's like two sports built into one.. (drag and drift)
Understatement
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nice carb what size chocks are you going with thinking about the same carb for my r1 13bpp im also running 51ida think its too small though ok for the bridge that i ran b4
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Jay, there is nothing like fuel injection. chuck that webber and get a 62mm TWM THROTTLE BODY..
Old 01-15-11, 11:07 AM
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Or a set of slide throttle bodies... No butterfly in the way

Pure uninterupted air flow.
Old 01-15-11, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by r100 repu
nice carb what size chocks are you going with thinking about the same carb for my r1 13bpp im also running 51ida think its too small though ok for the bridge that i ran b4
I'm not sure yet. I will start with a smaller one and go from there.


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Jay, there is nothing like fuel injection. chuck that webber and get a 62mm TWM THROTTLE BODY..
I know, but like I said, I'm already set up for this carb and I got a killer deal. Plus I want to prove that you can still go fast with a carb. I will eventually go to fuel injection, but we'll see.

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Or a set of slide throttle bodies... No butterfly in the way

Pure uninterupted air flow.
I got my own ideas, but I can't share yet.
Old 01-15-11, 03:46 PM
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uh oh... You know your going "Pro" when everything becomes a secret...lol

I have a sneak peak at a set of slide TB's that are purpose built for peripheral motors.
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Looks cool jay, we just got bro inlaws meth inj 13b going the other night so now have a bit of a bug for this na stuffhave any you guys run them with plenium and big single throttle? Thats what we put on Pauls as cheap for us to make over buying itb'ssound beutiful tho which surprised me, be on dyno in couple of weeks be interested to see what others have found doing it this way?
What does your car weigh?

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Brent. Thats cool that you are doing that. It'll be interesting to see how you make out..

I believe you should make good HP with a single throttle body. I remember testing the mopar all motor drag car years ago and overall HP was pretty much the same between itb's and plenum..
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thats what Im hoping Enzo,figure at wide open throttle is the same bar has no shaft interupting ****.Just see everyone using big $ itb's and thought there must be a reason?I havent played much na stuff,I meen I have done heaps of 240-250whp weber/small efi stuff but nothing cool apart from big revver track car not long ago.never done the na meth thing too,but already seeing good things,whole plenium and runners are frozen
Im interested to see how you go with that big carb Jay,how much are they?and do they take the wbere jets?
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Originally Posted by CBR
Looks cool jay, we just got bro inlaws meth inj 13b going the other night so now have a bit of a bug for this na stuffhave any you guys run them with plenium and big single throttle? Thats what we put on Pauls as cheap for us to make over buying itb'ssound beutiful tho which surprised me, be on dyno in couple of weeks be interested to see what others have found doing it this way?
What does your car weigh?

brent
Now who would wan't to do that.....

Right now with the 12a and me in the car it weighs 1910lbs



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thats what Im hoping Enzo,figure at wide open throttle is the same bar has no shaft interupting ****.Just see everyone using big $ itb's and thought there must be a reason?I havent played much na stuff,I meen I have done heaps of 240-250whp weber/small efi stuff but nothing cool apart from big revver track car not long ago.never done the na meth thing too,but already seeing good things,whole plenium and runners are frozen
Im interested to see how you go with that big carb Jay,how much are they?and do they take the wbere jets?
brent
Here's my new flywheel and clutch setup. The guy who makes the Terminator II carbs also makes these bitchin flywheel clutch setups. www.geersengineering.com
Call him for prices on both. He has N/A and TII flywheels and has single and dual clutch setups to your specs. This setup is very similar to the Mcleod setup but is more reasonable. He actually uses the Mcleod diaphrams as you can see. And Brent yes, the TII uses all Weber IDA jets and emulsion tubes.



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o wow... good luck man. keep us all up to date on the build and hope u crack open the single digits!
Old 01-22-11, 06:05 PM
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Ok small update. I had a little set back because whoever had the car before me butchered the front subframe motor mount plates. There was a 2"x2" hole for the motor mount bolt! So I removed the subframe and welded on two new plates and moved the engine back as far as I could for weight transfer and clearance of the oil pan and re drilled the holes. She's tight as a virgin now. Also, the rubber crap between the subframe and body of the car was wasted so I tossed that crap and made some aluminum one's. This took alot of time becasue the studs on the body were not square.

On top of all that the adaptor plate that Liberty sent back with the new re drilled holes for a TII bellhousing is ify. The new holes that they re drilled are very very close to the old one's and my father being an engineer and all said he doesn't like it and want's Liberty to make a new one. So we'll see how that flies- Enzo, I may end up buying yours-check your pm.

So now I will be starting to cut the trans tunnel out so this beast of a trans. will fit.
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Ok, I got the trans. tunnel cut out for the new Liberty. Wish I had a plasma cutter instead of my cuttoff wheel. This would have saved me about 3 hours! It's hard to see from the pic but you can see all the holes in the adaptor plate. There are several holes that are really close to one anther. One was .020" from the other.


And here's the picture of my motor mounts and if you look closely the aluminum spacers between the subframe and body. All in all I got alot done this weekend. Should have the trans. installed next weekend. Then I have to make a new transmission crossmember, tans. tunnel cover and shorten the driveshaft and then finally I will be ready to hit the track.

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hay when is you car going to look like this????
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Old 01-30-11, 10:17 AM
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hay when is you car going to look like this????
Probably never because I run in a stock chassis all motor class. That is a very nice looking RX2 though. Do you have any info on it? And what's wrong with the way my RX2 looks?
Old 02-01-11, 03:39 AM
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nice and good luck this year bro
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
nice and good luck this year bro
Thanks Teddy you too.

Update- I finally got my second adaptor plate yesterday and my new motor mount so the transmission will be installed this weekend. Then I have to make a crossmember and then get my driveshaft shortened with the new yoke and them I'm ready to hit the pavement again finally.
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
Thanks Teddy you too.

Update- I finally got my second adaptor plate yesterday and my new motor mount so the transmission will be installed this weekend. Then I have to make a crossmember and then get my driveshaft shortened with the new yoke and them I'm ready to hit the pavement again finally.
ur ahead of the game as far as this season already..
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Sent you a PM with some clutch/flywheel questions, Jay.
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Looking good mate, keep up the good work

The Grey RX2 is a Sydney car, 13BPPT from memory. Can't remember the blokes name offhand (Michael ...) but he owned another car that was in the SDR stable before this one.

Also on the carb front (for everyone else as I'm sure I spotted you in the thread Jay), Axe Racing ran a 10.4 something a few weeks ago with a TII carb, not stock chassis though but the fastest NA 13B pass in Oz.

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Wow Jay, you are going to run some serious #'s now

Good luck bro and keep giving em hell!!!
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
ur ahead of the game as far as this season already..
I hope so because I feel like I'm behind.

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Looking good mate, keep up the good work

The Grey RX2 is a Sydney car, 13BPPT from memory. Can't remember the blokes name offhand (Michael ...) but he owned another car that was in the SDR stable before this one.

Also on the carb front (for everyone else as I'm sure I spotted you in the thread Jay), Axe Racing ran a 10.4 something a few weeks ago with a TII carb, not stock chassis though but the fastest NA 13B pass in Oz.

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Yeah, but I thought the Axe car ran a 10.29?

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Wow Jay, you are going to run some serious #'s now

Good luck bro and keep giving em hell!!!
Thanks and I will for sure!
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Yeah, 10.2 forgot about that pass later in the vid.

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