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Old 06-28-11, 12:36 PM
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When is the race with Manny going to be? I might take a trip to go see the race
Old 06-28-11, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
rather than the average "run of the mill" brands?
Why do you assume that besides oem or ceramic seals the rest are run of the mill.

Do know the time, money and resources it takes to build Apex Seals?

The worlds fastest all motor 13B car is la cecil starlet out of Puerto rico @ 9.30 and 2nd is El Wao datsun @ 9.53.
Do you know what seals they are running?
Old 06-28-11, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaryB-2000
Why do you assume that besides oem or ceramic seals the rest are run of the mill.

Do know the time, money and resources it takes to build Apex Seals?

The worlds fastest all motor 13B car is la cecil starlet out of Puerto rico @ 9.30 and 2nd is El Wao datsun @ 9.53.
Do you know what seals they are running?
I guess I need to explain what I meant by "run of the mill".... What I meant was every other affordable seal on the market. Whether it be Goopy, ALS, Super seals, etc. No one is saying anything bad about the "run of the mill" seals, I just simply asked why Ianitti's over a $400 seal.

I don't believe anything I hear about a Rotary motor until I see it for myself.. Many mechanics will get "free" parts then turn around and SELL those Free parts in order to buy parts from the leading brands..

I assumed you asked about Leco's motor because he's running your seals. God bless him if he is
Old 06-29-11, 01:01 PM
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[QUOTE=ultimatejay;10679612 I gotta give Manny enough time to get his car down here and ready to race. [/QUOTE]

if you keep waiting on that your going to start growing roots
Old 07-02-11, 02:52 PM
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Sounds like fun
Old 07-03-11, 11:05 PM
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Update- I put the motor together yesterday and everything went together smoothly. I can't believe how much more compression these two piece ceramics have just by cranking over by hand compared to the 12abp that I built with the carbons. Need to modify the oil pickup tube so that I can fit the rear sump 13b pan on and then it's ready to meet it's new home in the duece. Then it's off to Rene's shop to get the exhaust and intake manifold done and then it's time to fire it up. Getting closer. I expect it should be running within the next two to three weeks as I have been really busy at work and home.
Old 07-06-11, 11:34 AM
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Looky what I found...

(2nd pic)

http://www.motormavens.com/2009/09/c...-fontana-pt-2/
Old 07-08-11, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sen2two
Ha, good find. That was two years ago before I got my paint/body work done.

Well, I got the rest of the parts needed to complete the engine assy. Heading off to Rene's tomorrow to get the pickup tube welded and a new rear oil adaptor plate made. I should have the new engine stabbed in the car by tomorrow or Sunday. Getting closer....
Old 07-11-11, 10:20 PM
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The new powerplant is in!


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good stuff jay looks killer !! i think we going to make out at same time .....
Old 07-12-11, 02:43 AM
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Very Nice U-JAY,my hot rod is running better then ever (seat of the pants no time slips yet to back it up)I hope to get out to Irwindale this Thursday,I found a problem in my ecu setup,what a difference one click of a button can make!!!I'm hope-n to see a 5.80 this Thursday,let me know when you are taking the Rx to Irwindale!!
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Originally Posted by rotorious13b
good stuff jay looks killer !! i think we going to make out at same time .....
Yeah, hopefully we both can get our cars done soon and go to the track the same day and show those v8 guys was up.

Originally Posted by mazda rx2 rotary
Very Nice U-JAY,my hot rod is running better then ever (seat of the pants no time slips yet to back it up)I hope to get out to Irwindale this Thursday,I found a problem in my ecu setup,what a difference one click of a button can make!!!I'm hope-n to see a 5.80 this Thursday,let me know when you are taking the Rx to Irwindale!!
Good news Chris! I don't think I can make this thursday but let me know how you do.
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looks very nice jay
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Looks great.. What clutch is that.
Old 07-13-11, 03:49 PM
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Looks really interesting. You running dual oil feed lines from the filter on this one?
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looking nice..
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Originally Posted by drag 7
looks very nice jay
Thanks Eric, how's your car running?

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Looks great.. What clutch is that.
Mcleod single disc setup.

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Looks really interesting. You running dual oil feed lines from the filter on this one?
Yep, I eliminated the oil coming through the front cover. The oil is coming out of the side of the front iron and then will go directly to the front and rear stationary gears. If you look closely you can see in the first pic a piece of tape covering the holes in the front iron. The bottom one is the oil out from the pump and the upper one is obviously the feed to the front stationary gear. Alot of people will just use the stock method and run a oil line to the front stationary gear.

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looking nice..
Thanks bro.
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hey jay my car has been sitting since may transmission is broke no funds to fix it been spending a lot of time with my family going vacations and doing that kind of stuff might pull out trans and try to fix it in another month
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Finally, after more parts delays, I got some work done. Just need to plumb the oil system and cooling system and she's ready to fire. Waiting on fittings now. Should have it running by next week for sure. Here's a little teaser pic.

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Time to put a 1 gallon fuel cell up front
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Originally Posted by rotorholic
Time to put a 1 gallon fuel cell up front
I was thinking of that but I need the weight in the back right now with now bigger engine.
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Hood Clearance

Hey, Jay car's looking good. Nice set up.

Looking at your motor in the picture, I notice that the velocity stack looks really high.

I was wondering if you have enough room/clearance for the stack and hood meeting up? I think you should have a scoop/cut out for the stack to be beneficial.?. Just like the HONDA all motor with the snorkel on their hood.

But all in all the motor is looking good. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Yellow Rx3
Hey, Jay car's looking good. Nice set up.

Looking at your motor in the picture, I notice that the velocity stack looks really high.

I was wondering if you have enough room/clearance for the stack and hood meeting up? I think you should have a scoop/cut out for the stack to be beneficial.?. Just like the HONDA all motor with the snorkel on their hood.

But all in all the motor is looking good. Good luck.
C'mon what kind of fabricators do you think Rene and I are?
Yes, we measured the hood clearance before we made the intake and I have plenty but thanks for the heads up. I'm going to try and not cut my carbon fiber hood up because I will eventually go fuel injection and don't wan't a big hole in the hood. I came up with an idea for ram air and am going to experiment with that. Keep in mind, ram air is alot diferent for a Carburetor vs a fuel injection setup. Carbs don't like alot of turbulence over the air/fuel jets as this can effect the air/fuel delivery. Most guys that just throw a big hood scoop over the carb and call it a day are actually hurting their performance.

So how is your car coming? Any plans on taking it out to the track soon?
Old 08-14-11, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
C'mon what kind of fabricators do you think Rene and I are?
Yes, we measured the hood clearance before we made the intake and I have plenty but thanks for the heads up. I'm going to try and not cut my carbon fiber hood up because I will eventually go fuel injection and don't wan't a big hole in the hood. I came up with an idea for ram air and am going to experiment with that. Keep in mind, ram air is alot diferent for a Carburetor vs a fuel injection setup. Carbs don't like alot of turbulence over the air/fuel jets as this can effect the air/fuel delivery. Most guys that just throw a big hood scoop over the carb and call it a day are actually hurting their performance.

So how is your car coming? Any plans on taking it out to the track soon?
Well, if the mighty $$$ prevails. I might be able to go racing soon. But I don't think so for now.
Parts are damn expensive now a days. Need rebuilt kit, new seals and all that. I am hoping I will make it.
If not I'll watch support the rotary guy's that will be able to race.
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Originally Posted by Yellow Rx3
Well, if the mighty $$$ prevails. I might be able to go racing soon. But I don't think so for now.
Parts are damn expensive now a days. Need rebuilt kit, new seals and all that. I am hoping I will make it.
If not I'll watch support the rotary guy's that will be able to race.
I hear you, that's why I stick with N/A engines. More reliable less money, although my empty bank account doesn't match up with this statement.
Hope to see you and your car at the track soon.


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