crispeed

The Turbo II RX-7 of Toledo Racing from Carolina, Puerto Rico ran an 8.90 at 152mph last weekend at the Pan American nationals in Puerto Rico! From what I've been told this car is un-tubbed and runs on a 26X10 inch slick!

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Greg

That sounds like adams time!!!! Thats Great!!!

crispeed

The year is off too a good start for RX-7's and rotary power!
We have Toledo with an 8.90 and Ari with a 9.11!
I wonder who will be next!

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Another Toledo pic---->

zyounker

So crispeed, did you ever get your engine back together? When you starting your season? Good luck



-Zach

Boostn7

Chris, need a helping hand with the beast ????

I keep looking at your 150mph !!!!!!

In time......

crispeed

Yeh!
If I ever get the beast to leave straight without trying to take out the christmas tree it would probably run in the 8's and that's if I don't back half it first too!

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crispeed

The motor was back together a week later and I hurt it again in Cali!
Luckilly it did no damage and only cracked one apex seal!
That's what happens when you do things in a hurry! If I had check everything out before Cali. I would have found the Faulty Fuel Solenoid!
You live and learn!

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MaxRX7

nice times !

I'm sorry but what does "Untubbed" mean ?

zyounker

A tubbed car would have "tubs" installed so you can run large slicks..

-Zach

MaxRX7

oh I see, thanks for the info !

CSS

Thats insane!!! :O

magnus

I thought you were gonna eat the tree for sure that last time.

Your friends left you freezing your *** off for about 1/2 hour before they comandeered me to come rescue your ***!

Here's a pic for you Chris

FEARED7

nice flame job on the golf cart! about an untubed car in the 8's! YOU CAN DO IT CHRIS!

crispeed

Yeh!
They were too buisy rapping with some fine Cali. females!
I was about to re-start the car and drive back too. Luckily for me you came to the rescuse because I would have destroyed the motor on the return road!
BTW. Why are there aint any pics of my car on your site!

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blaze08

Hey man don't forget about Abel Ibarra and his Rx7, the fastest one around

SPEED_NYC

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blaze08 dont embarass yourself...
abel's car is nice, but there are a few rotarys faster than him. hopefully this year there will be a lot more that are faster than him

(i'm sorry but i just dont like abel)

Greg

Actually, there is only one rotary faster than him . How could you not like the groudbreaker for rotary drag racing in the US?

SPEED_NYC

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I posted a really long rant about the exposure import drag racing was getting in the mainstreem press a while ago.
Basically i was unhappy with the way magazines like Turbo were giving all this exposure to abel like he invented pro import racing.... although abel has gotten much faster now, there were lots of cars from PR that were busting his *** at the time. It all started when turbo reported that abel's car was the quickest pro import at like 7.98 or something. I was atco like 2 or 3 years earlier when Sakura made the first ever 7 sec pass for an import!

it may or may not have been abel's fault that he was getting all the press, but i never saw him give any credit to cars like raffilito, the (rx3 i believe) of david turbo, quiles turbo or any of the other cars he was still trying to catch.

it took the us 10 years (and a whole lot of sponsorship $$) to catch up to the guys in PR, and it is only now that we start seeing cars from PR getting media coverage. when the times produced by cars in PR were WAY outta our leauge, everyone here tried to act like racing in PR and on the east coast didn't exist!

in my eyes, the east coast was the birthplace of import drag racing, and PR is the birthplace for pro imports. Abel KNOWS this, but never used his position in the spotlight to give ANY of those guys credit.

I met and talked to abel at e-town 2 yeatrs ago and i really feel that he is an a**hole, he has this 'I'm better than you attitude' that i couldn't stand. (the same for vinny ten, but thats another story)

the a**hole thingg is just due to my personal experience, but I still feel like he is a traitor because of the way he treated the REAL ground-breakers in pro import racing. the first, and ONLY time i saw/heard abel mention anything about racers from PR is when him and his brother started talking s*it about sakura... he talked a good fight, about how he could whoop sakura, but when they set a date to race in PR, abel didn't even show.

Why is the US so afraid to admit that fast imports didn't start with hondas, and it definately didn't start with Abel!!??

what about the cars from aus and europe?, remember when wayne saunders was running 8.0's with his cossie powered probe in the mid 90's? how come he dosent get any respect? he sold his new car to ben ma who does nothing but ma-sh up the car, yet ben gets all this press, when he didn't even build, or drive the car!?

and greg, how can you say that abel is the groundbreaker of import racing in the us? dont you remember 'partytime', the tube ramed turbo II? they were from your neck of the woods too, philly i think. what about the supercharged 20B rail from world racing in oregon? (that car was WAAAY ahead of it's time. i'm willing to bet that the first 5 sec run by an import is gonna be done with a forced induction rotary powered rail!) when these two cars were running, abbel was probably saving up money to buy a header for his 12A first gen.

I know its all politics and sponsor BS (mixed with a bit of raceism), remember when adam was the man and abel couldn't buy any press for his R100?

i'm just mad at the way the props are divided in the import racing world. it's gonna be fu*ked up when somebody writes a book on the history of import racing in 20 years and they make abel and Ed bergenholtz look like the pioneers of this s*it!!!!

i think abel knew the mags were giving him too much credit, but he chose to smile for the cameras and let 'Turbo' lie to the world instead of correcting them, or giving props to the real godfathers.

abel's new car is impressive, BUT HE SHOULD GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE GODDAMNIT!!

again, I'm sorry but i just dont like the guy

Greg

Come on man, If you do a search on my name is the rotary performance section then you will see how much props and credit to PR. But PR is PR they will always be ontp of the the rotary game, thats a fact. As far as oarty time goes, what you are saying is true, but how many times has party time raced outside NY, NJ, and PA? Abel brought Flaco r100 nationwide. Flace was a consistant *** kicking car that toured with the circut. You cant just base someones achivements on best, consistancies amongst a ton other are factors in what decided my statement. As far as his new, you can seriously take respect away from a man who is running similar times to the racers with more motor. Abel is running 7.4 quatermiles agains siguel racing 3 rotor. The man is doing what others are doing with a 1/3 less displacement. We all know that PR gets the most rotary respect, thats not even an arguement, but lets get real he wins championships for 1 reason caused he is a damn good racer and he knows his ****. The pro class barley existed when he was banging out 8.0s. And why should he give credits to other drag racers???? I cant ever remember hearing ari talking about how good magnus is, or vinney ten talking nicely about craig paisleys car. Its a competition. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I SAID HE IS A GROUND BREAKER IN THE US. europe and aus and PR ar enot part of the convo


By the way I met the owner of the party time cars (He comes to hector shop all the time) He is a really nice guy maybe once he gets the shop finished we can grab a few beers and hangout while I get my ******* CHASSIS WORK DONE !!!!1

peejay

Ever hear of "sportsmanship"?

Actually I did hear about one of the big name rotarieans (probably Abel) selling a race trans to a competitor... the competitor promptly smoked him! 'Least he thanked him for the trans afterwards

I thought Abel got into rotaries in the late 70's? Anyway I remember seeing that his first encounter with rotaries was a street race, him in his Ford Capri and the other guy in "some noisy white Datsun looking thing" (RX-3) long looong before 20Bs or T2s were around.

And besides, Racing Beat was kicking *** in NHRA with an RX-3 in the late 70's, don't know when PR started dragging rotaries but RB probably has the rest of the US beat at least!

crispeed

When Racing Beat took their RX-3 to PuertoRico back in the 70's which by the way was known as 'The Samurai Warrior' they thought they were the kings in rotary dragracing untill they matched race with whom I believe and many other racers also as the first rotary forefather in the world, Benito Vasquez better know as 'Loquito'!
The RB RX-3 was running in the high 11's low 12's and 'Loquito's' RX-3 was running high 10's with an equal match chassis and motor!
When Flaco was running low 8's with his R-100, Rafelito and David Turbo were in the 7's.
As for true street cars and not the ones that always arrive to the track on the back of a trailor!
Everyone here in Florida knew of the famous red TII of Enrique Gonzales that was running low 10's and always drove to the track when Adam Saruwatari was still in the 11's. Come to think of it Boostn7(John Durante) TII and mines were in the 10's before Ari was!
The only thing the west cost can claim to be the first in Import drag racing would be FWD Hondas!
I'm not trying to disrespect or take anything away from some of the above mention racers of which many has gone on to be the leaders in their own classes but the East coast and the rest of the world are the true pioneers in Import drag racing no matter what those west coast magazines might mislead everyone reading them to believe is the truth.

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Greg

Of Course I have heard of sportsmanship, but that dont meant that everyone has to follow their life by it. I met abel a few times and from my experiences he was a nice guy, He even took me and my friend into his trailor and showed us around. I am not saying that abel is the king racer, matter fact I could care less if he races or not, but he is one of the main people responsible for bringing import drag racing to the mainstream. And whats so wrong with mainstream racers like Steph Papadakis and Abel? What makes them mainstream??? Just cause they get exposure?? Its a shame that people love the racers until they become famous in the industry and get more exposure than other. You cant take any bit of credit from Flaco racing. AND I THIKN I MUST STRESS ME FIRST COMMENT AS :

crispeed

Can't argue with that!
He's #1 in 2-rotor!
Can you imagine if he applied his knowledge to a 3-rotor!

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DELTA_Rotary

Oh man PLEASE dont put Abel in the same catagorie as Vinny. What an *******.

SPEED_NYC

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Greg, i never said i hate him because he got famous and didn't give credit to other racers. thats just the reason i consider him a traitor.
I dont like him because i didn't like his attitude when i met him. remember i ended my post with "I'm sorry, I just dont like the guy"

It does bother me that he AND adam never used thier exposure to credit the pioneers. Abel has done amazing things with the 2 rotor, but I always wonder what some of the PR rotor guys could do with the ammount of sponser $$$ abel gets to throw arround.

import racing has advanced so quickly in the last few years because of the $$ being pumped into it. If exposure was given to the PRs 10 years ago, and sponsors were encouraged to back them INSTEAD of the guys in the US (who were already years behing PR), immagine what this sport would be like now?!

its simple, If you take the dumbest kid in the class and give him constant tutoring and encouragement, while you leave the really smart kid out in the world alone, eventually the dumb kid's test scores are gona come close to the smart kids......
my question is, why not just educate and motivate the smart kid? you'll make a lot more progress in a lot less time.

so yeah, abel has come a long way, but how much time and how much $$ did it take?
and yeah he may be the groundbreaker in the US, but I'm questioning weather or not he deserved the opportunity to break that ground.

understand my logic before you guys start bashing me:

1. Abel has built an incredible car.
2. this was made possible because of his talent, AND sponser $$
3. sponsers support racers who will be able to get maximum
exposure for thier roduct. (usually by winning a lot/being the
fastest)
4. in theory the fastest racers get the most exposure, therefore
they SHOULD get the sponser $$$$

the problem is that the powers that be decide to give exposure only to racers in thier back yards and not the best OR fastest.

this lack of exposure held PR racers back and allowed the US to catch up. this really just held the sport back, and abel allowed it to happen while he collected the sponsor checks he didn't deserve (according to my logic)

this is not his personal fault, but he represents one of the 'bad guys' in my eyes