Louis M

What SCCA Class would a V8 Locost be in? This would be a hand-built super seven with a ford 5.0 engine and running gear with some modifications to the engine... i think EF is for the stock super seven w/ a four cylinder engine, but what would this be?

MPM

EMod if your talking about SoloII.

Rated R1

Whoa! Are you modifying the frame to fit in this big ole engine? Do you post on the GRM board. There are several locost buiders on there. I plan to build one sometime using the B6T out of a 323 GTX and a miata transmission and rear end using CMC's frame.

Louis M

alright, so EMod for auto-x, but what about on race courses?

Louis M

yes, i'm modifying the frame, which will be seven inches wider throughout the entire car, a few inches longer in front and a few in back of the firewall, and with 1.5" tubing

Dick Elliott

Beware! You better get a rule book from SCCA.com as even in the MOD class, theres rules to look at. Things like floor boards and fire walls are call'd out in the rule book. It is not a run-what-u-brung class.

Rated R1

Sounds cool. How are you going to do the fiberglass parts of the body?

MPM

Word brotha!

Get a rules book and sign up for the Emod-Dmod yahoo group. Fairly active group with lots of good information. They can answer most questions you will have.

Louis M

there's no unlimited classs?

Louis M

the only fiberglass on the car would be the nosecone and the fender flares, but i think i'll make those out of steel

Dick Elliott

NO UNLIMITED CLASS'S ALLOWED in autocross. Why can't you beleave the people that run autocross every weekin. And let me tell you, some racer with a rotary in a seven (7) type car is going to eat your lunch. If you haven't started this drag racer yet, I think you should go to an autocross and see what your up against. HP neans very little in auto X. Handleing is the key to going fast. A V-8 in a overgrown 7 will never handle like a rotary in a normal size one. Wake up. Been there/done that. Please drop this thread!

Louis M

i have been talking about road racing... that was my original intention but i did not phrase it well

Dick Elliott

THERE IS NO CLASS IN ROAD RACING FOR SUCH A CAR. GET A RULE BOOK BEFORE YOU START ANY RACE CAR PROJECT.

Bern

There is no National SCCA class that you could legally run, but if you don't mind running just regional SCCA races, you could probably get into into either the Super Production or ITE class. Although I doubt that they'll let you get into ITE, but I'm almost sure you can get this into the SP class. It's kind-of an unlimited class.

Look up the SCCA Rule book for details.

-Bern

Dick Elliott

Super production and IT-E are for production car with engines not put in the cars by the factory. Example would be Mustang with a 460 engine or an old NASCAR Bush car which is based on a production car. An oversize 7 was never based on a production car. A normal size 7, yes was based on the orginal 7. Also in Super Production and IT-E, the engine MUST be from the same company that built the car. Example would be any GM motor in a Vette or any Ford motor in a Mustang. Also Super Production is not raced nation wide in SCCA. GET A RULE BOOK.

Silkworm

Dick,

Easy there tiger, you might blow a gasket.

Actually, you're not correct in San Francisco region, therefore you're not correct (as you made a general statement).

In SF region, ITE rules are Tub production chassis with DOT tires, and must pass 90db if the car is run at Laguna Seca. No restrictions on what engine is installed.

SP rules are for any car or pickup truck which exceeds the preparation limitations of Production or GT specifications but meets or exceeds general regulations of Section 17 of the GCR.

So his car could very well be placed in Super Production here in SFR. And I suspect other regions as well.

Louis,

You need the SCCA General Competition Rules, which can be found here: http://www.sccaclothing.com/cgi-bin/...&ppinc=search2

And in this case, you need to visit your local SCCA region's website for their rules regarding Improved Touring E and/or Super Production.

Finally, should you choose to skip SCCA entirely, I'm sure you can run such a car with NASA in Super Unlimited. You can also explore options around the 7 club, I know they've had races with NASA last year in our region.

Sorry I can't help you with Auto-x.

Regards,

PaulC

Bern

Got you Dick.... The only real reason I suggested "regional" SP, was because some regions are pretty laxed with regard to the class, and allow some wierd cars to run. As long as you pass safety tech, they let you run. You'll also note that I said, there is "NO" national SCCA class he could run.

I've seen a few knock-off production "TYPE" kit cars racing in SP lately. One that comes to mind is a cobra kit car, that kind-of looked like the Cobra, but was definitely either a highly modified chassis, or different from the the original cobra in all diminsions. But as you said, if followed by the letter of the law/rule, this V8 Locust car would NOT be allowed in SP.

Like Dick suggest, it would be good for you to review the SCCA GCR and/or call your local SCCA region for a clarification on your car.

If not, maybe NASA might have somewhere for you to run... maybe!

-Bern

Dick Elliott

You left coast guys can run anything with wheels, as long as you pay up. Most regons put the odd ***** in ASR. But you guys run things like 1970 Mercury Cyclones in SPO. Wish it was like that everyware. NASA is going to do that and get the cars. It about time we had another IMSA. I ran ASRA in Eloy, AZ in the 80's and it was a blast. Anything, and I do mean anything that would pass tech ran. Dune buggies, stock cars, funny cars, etc,etc. We put on quite a show while it lasted. Later, DICK

'85 GSL 302

Most "locost" cars do well because they're so light. A V8 would be a pretty nastly beast. Very fast, and hard to drive. I really have no desire to go 160 on a road course in a car I built myself, with no crash zones for when I hit a wall. Good luck, you're in for a very hard ride. I'd suggest you run VERY thick steel in that car, well over the normal square tubing.