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Old 12-20-02, 11:10 PM   #1
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question about E production rx7's

yeah i was seen last day a E prodution race in speed channel and i saw alot of rx7 there and i would like to know what are the spec of them? and im planning to get my scca license next year and i would like to know how is it? thanks
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The basics are that EP cars are tub-frame cars with streetported motors. The modification list is long. If you want to buy an already built car, it'll cost you $15,000-$30,000 for a competitive racer. If you build one yourself, it'll set you back $25,000-$40,000 to run at the front.

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Old 12-21-02, 05:58 PM   #3
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and im planning to get my scca license next year and i would like to know how is it? thanks
sorry i put this wrong but i like to know too how hard is to pass the scca license?
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Old 12-21-02, 09:40 PM   #4
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you have to go thru 2 schools... they have one each spring and one each fall usually. theres a classroom course and a track course with instructors and everything then a little moc race.

DO NOT try to go and win the race.... stay outta trouble and youll be fine.

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It's very easy. No amount of speed will get you passed. But an open mind, good attitude, and most importantly safety on track will. You cannot study the GCR enough beforehand. Know your flags. Take a good reliable car. If your car breaks and you miss a session you might not pass the school. School is not the time to wrench on a car or to sort a new car.

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Old 12-21-02, 11:40 PM   #6
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The test is easy just don't try to be a hero. Work your way up to it and you'll do fine. When I instruct I give high praise for students that actually listen to what I tell them.
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thanks for the advises. i apreciate it, this is one of my goals and i dont want to blow it up.
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Talk to your regions people too. There might be someone in your area that wouldn't mind tutoring you. I crewed with a guy for a few races and it helped alot. You just learn what the procedures are for getting through tech and the like. Makes the big day alot less daunting. Also it's a good idea if you can get to the track you'll be taking your school at before hand and just see it. If you crew with someone you'll most likely be able to walk the track sometime during the weekend so at least you know where it goes.

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Not exactly correct...

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The basics are that EP cars are tub-frame cars with streetported motors. The modification list is long. If you want to buy an already built car, it'll cost you $15,000-$30,000 for a competitive racer. If you build one yourself, it'll set you back $25,000-$40,000 to run at the front.

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Just wanted to make a minor correction here...

Production cars are NOT tube frame cars (except Chima's Elva Courrier). Grand Touring (GT) is where you'll find the majority of the tube frame cars running.

The #01 car (3rd place finisher in the race you watched) is our car. It is a 1984 1st gen RX-7 with a wide body kit on it.

If you have some blood sweat and tears laying around, you could obtain and make a front running car for around $25K....we did it.

The guidance of your license if 100% correct. If your not a member of the SCCA, then you need to join ASAP and get a copy of the "General Competition Rules" (GCR) and start reading the first 100 pages. It is a quick and easy read, but it will tell you everything you need to know about racing in the SCCA.

If your interested in production racing, see the Production Category for all the rules and regs on car prep.

What part of the country are you in? Find out who your local SCCA contacts are and let them help you on getting involved.

Its a great sport. And take it from someone that has jumped out of airplanes for a living, flown high performance aircraft in the military, and on the civilian side....it is by far the most fun you can have with your cloths on!

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Re: Not exactly correct...

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Just wanted to make a minor correction here...

Production cars are NOT tube frame cars (except Chima's Elva Courrier). Grand Touring (GT) is where you'll find the majority of the tube frame cars running.

Ummm....

If you'll take another look, you'll notice I said TUB-framed cars, not TUBE-framed.

By the way, Jeff drove a great race! I think next year when we run straight down to the keyhole instead of doing the chicane, the RX-7's will do a little better.
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Old 12-27-02, 12:07 PM   #11
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I do not know how common it is in other parts of the country, but in St. Louis we have run a "super school". It allows you to qualify (2 schools) in one (long)weekend. Also, I assume you can still do the (approved) commercial schools to qualify for the SCCA license??
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Theres one of those (double school) at Roebling in feb.
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Old 12-27-02, 03:51 PM   #13
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Re: Not exactly correct...

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The guidance of your license if 100% correct. If your not a member of the SCCA, then you need to join ASAP and get a copy of the "General Competition Rules" (GCR) and start reading the first 100 pages. It is a quick and easy read, but it will tell you everything you need to know about racing in the SCCA.

thanks im gonna join as soon as posible and start reading the 100 pages

[/b][/quote]If your interested in production racing, see the Production Category for all the rules and regs on car prep.[/b][/quote]

yeap im hoping to.

[/b][/quote]What part of the country are you in? Find out who your local SCCA contacts are and let them help you on getting involved.[/b][/quote]

i live in NY. im gonna look in their website.

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Its a great sport. And take it from someone that has jumped out of airplanes for a living, flown high performance aircraft in the military, and on the civilian side....it is by far the most fun you can have with your cloths on!

Frank [/b][/quote]

dam!!! thanks
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I'd suggest trying out Improved Touring or Spec RX7 (unless you plan to use your GSL-SE) before jumping headfirst into Production. The cars can be very close to stock and be out there on the track and allow you to get some seat time. I'd think that Production cars are just fast enough to really get you into trouble if you lack on track experience. Heck, IT cars will scare the heck out of you the first time out!
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I'd suggest trying out Improved Touring or Spec RX7 (unless you plan to use your GSL-SE) before jumping headfirst into Production. The cars can be very close to stock and be out there on the track and allow you to get some seat time. I'd think that Production cars are just fast enough to really get you into trouble if you lack on track experience. Heck, IT cars will scare the heck out of you the first time out!
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I'd suggest trying out Improved Touring or Spec RX7 (unless you plan to use your GSL-SE) before jumping headfirst into Production. The cars can be very close to stock and be out there on the track and allow you to get some seat time. I'd think that Production cars are just fast enough to really get you into trouble if you lack on track experience. Heck, IT cars will scare the heck out of you the first time out!
heck no, im not going to use my -SE for racing. im planning to buy another 1g like a GS and start from scratch. i think youre right ill start with the slower category like you said ,Improve Touring or Spec7. so i can gain experience. thanks

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i like the front valance you did to you rx7.
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See...Attention is in the details!!!

Tub we be correct...I saw "tub" and interpreted "tube"...you know...its a GA thing!

My recommendation would NOT to go Spec RX, but ITA or IT7 if your region has it. You will be able to get the appropriate seat time while getting your car "more" prepared for EP.

The jump from IT to EP is NOT that dramatic. If you do it right, you should have ALL of the gear in the car to make the transition with relative ease.

Modify the cage in the car (do it right the first time BTW, when you FIRST have the cage built to do simple mods), upgrade the brakes and minor parts of the suspension, drop in the appropriate gear box, carb, engine, then add the wide body kit, Lexan windshield, new dash (gut the old one and the stock wiring harness)...sell your old 13x7s for 15" rims and set aside a ton of $$$ for tires and repairs and you should be cooking with Crisco.

Again, be sure to start your initial racing with a plan. If Spec RX is more within your budget, start there with a PLAN to Migrate your car to ITA/7 and then to EP. The only down side for SPRX is the cage work is a lost sunk cost. With ITA (or IT7), you get the car more like a race car, and less like a street car. There is a LOT you can mrgrate forward to EP from IT, including your exhaust and header setup (not previously mentioned). Ours in interchangeable from the IT to the EP car.

Just food for thought....

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Link for you with a cage'd car...

http://www.improvedtouring.com/Classifieds/

$1500 for what he has...

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THANKS BIG BALZ!!!! this is nice, i gonna send a email to the guy right away.
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