ProjectD

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It's nice to see this project is moving along. I'm a little nervous about the mounts though.

1. The holes you bolted your tranny mount to arent the strongest and have been known to get ripped out (at least in V8 FDs). Also is your tranny gonna be mounted solid without a bushing? (hard to tell by the pick) If so I imagine you will fells some vibrations through your chassis.

2. Again the holes that mount your brace to the chassis are not the strongest and using those nuts as spacers is not helping.

You could probaly get away witht he tranny mount but I would consider redesigning the diff mount or go with a proven setup like the Samberg brace.

mopar97

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oh its fine Max. things happen for a reason and from what i've heard the s14 is now giving the guy some problems? but granted he really wasn't prepared to have such a car on his hands i don't believe. probably something small. Would i drift with you? HELL YES! but first is getting this car to run lol. im "hoping" it will fire up before school starts on the 16th..but i highly doubt it.

PS..my srt4 is giving me problems. the fuel pump and wideband sensor both decided to crap out on me in the same day...so actually im car less right now.

and project D i can see what you are saying, we are going to just give this a Go and see what happens ! im not going to track nor drive the car hard at all. clutch kicks are not in this car's future.

lol and yes as of now there are NO bushings. There will be some when everything is finalized! especially considering this is a purpose built street car.

PS: i just bought my AC condenser last week so yep you guessed it! going to use the FD's condenser and lines but weld AN fittings to the ends to make plumbing easy.

Hopefully the car will be coming home next week. Sending out my wiring harness out this week as well to get done!! also my 255 fuel pump just came in along with my clutch master cylinder rebuild kit! so much to do!

KaoticFdR1

As ProjectD said about the trans mount to the chassis is not a safe point at all....I went through and welded the seam solid around those mounts and instead of ripping them out i've cracked out the mounting holes....this is on a street car as well. (stock ls1)

TwinCharged RX7

iTrader: (14)

You guys do know there are two types of 2JZ's right? They both came in the MKIV supra (93-98), but only the twin turbo models came with the 2JZ GTE with the 6speed gertrag tranny. (I notice fast and furious was quoted a few times haha, one of the many errors in the movie is the "2jz no ****" quote, it was obviously going to have the 2jz engine, all MKIV supras do, if he had said 2jz-GTE then it would have made sense)

I'm guessing this is not the GTE version, as it would most likely have the 6speed bolted to it and not the one mentioned. Idk why the previous owner would have downgraded the tranny.

I'm sure someone out there has made tons of power on the normal 2JZ, but the GTE is what everone thinks of as being the bulletproof powerhouse that we've all heard so much about.

So to the OP, unless you have the GTE, or have built the internals on this engine, and have upgraded the tranny and differential mounts, I would stay far far away from 800whp.

mopar97

iTrader: (7)

this motor came out of the aristro. and actually there are multiple typs of 2j's...

you have the 2jzge...the 2jzgt..2jzgte and the VVTi version. (<---shitty ones )

but this was the TT aristo motor ( automatic ) i have NO intentions of EVER passing the 500whp mark. if i make 420 i'll be very happy!

maxwolfinger1

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One of the things I hate about that movie is the fact that it is actually a non-turbo car so it had the weaker GE engine. That was the worst thing they could have seen(except I guess no engine). Sorry about the threadjack Joey the car is coming along nicely.
I would look into adding some bracing like ProjectD said as well as many people with stock LS1s have snapped trans mounts when using only the holes you are using and it would suck to get the car together and have something small like that break on you. Just another opinion.

mopar97

iTrader: (7)

proud to announce!! Tony from TJ motorsports, is picking up the car thrusday and is completely finishing/redoing it. when he is done i'll be driving it home!

i'll post every pick and report i receive from him! im super excited!

keep your eye out on this..i have a feeling this build thread is going to be moving fast.

GSXRATED

iTrader: (12)

Glad to hear you will have the car finished soon-ish. Just a heads up, I'm in VA and could have finished up the swap for you as well.

Toyotarx7

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could have.... Joey and I are buddies and I gave him a deal that well... I know no one can top. not to mention he trusts me with his car and my craftsmanship. in a short period of time that car will live again!

Joey, post pics of before and after shots of the harness I rebuilt for u

ProjectD

iTrader: (15)

I'm looking foward to seeing some updated/better mounting equipment.

But I think the thing I am most interested in is how all of you 2jz guys are lowering the rack AND claiming no bumpsteer correction needed. Good luck on the project! After looking at Toyotarx7's personal car I'm sure this will turn out nice.

GSXRATED

iTrader: (12)

Yes, like I said, could have. Lol, thanks for reiterating. No worries, we're already plenty backed up with other customers including some wanting 2jz swaps. Not to mention I will be replicating my subframe and selling them as well. Post some pics of your subframe. I'm sure we would all like to see it.

No one who lowers the 2j engine enough to clear the factory hood can claim that. The engine is just physically too tall to not lower the rack at all, unless you shoved the engine into the firewall about 12-18". Anyone who claims they can do do otherwise hasn't tried it, or is lying. I lowered my engine the absolute minimum necessary to clear the stock hood (no hood insulation as well) and I still had to drop the rack some. Thar's with a custom single turbo exhaust manifold and custom intake manifold. The factory manifold/throttle body is even more in the way of the hood.

ProjectD

iTrader: (15)

That was my understanding as well but this is the 2nd or3rd 2jz swap this month that claims to lower the rack without needing bumpsteer correction. And the only explanation given is the use of custome tubular subframes?

I love reading these 2j swaps almost at much as the V8 swaps. But I am suprised to see them making claims like this no bs jazz "BEFORE" even "ONE" car has proven it.

GSXRATED

iTrader: (12)

It will absolutely need bumpsteer correction. I build my subframe to clear the factory hood and had to lower the rack mounting locations about 2" (I have the exact number written down somewhere) so without a doubt it will need bumpsteer correction. I will measure mine for the good of the community knowledge as soon as my suspension is back together. I took a 6 month hiatus from working on the car to build a shop and still need to put my suspension back on now that I have my delrin bushings made and in the control arms.

mopar97

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car on its way to TJ motorports! excited. soon we will all see the outcome

GSXRATED

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They didn't even have a trailer to put it on/in? Lol, that seems sketchy.

ProjectD

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From the sound of it, they are a new buisness just starting to get up and running so they probably just haven't picked one up yet.

GSXRATED

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I can understand being new, but I would rent a trailer or borrow one before I towed a car that far with that setup.

mopar97

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do what you have to do. im cool with it. the car isnt going anyway, since it bolts to the chassi.

this thread will be getting updates a ton here in the next week or two. everyone keep posted.

Toyotarx7

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lol be careful Joey, apparently I'm a sketchy individual now because i dont own a trailer hahaha

you know GX, I read and hear the crap you say and doubt about me but idk if u noticed, but I don't pay u any mind... from a professional stand point, i find that kinda immature don't u think ? but it's cool, i don't eat from ur plate or need ur approval and acceptance for anything, when I say I'm a do something, I DO IT and I clearly displayed that to Joey today for what i had to do to pick up the car. if u had to drive 20+ hours to pick up a car because u gave that man ur word, u woulnt, if u had to deal with what i had to, you would've turned around and gone back home. and that's just my judgement by how immature ur being. I told Joey I would pick up the car on thurs, i did, i told him id be tbere at 12:30, and i was. I said i will create this frame and I WILL, I'll even sell u one on discount to prove it to u.

and to everyone else, i got the car today!! we set up this week end and we start cracking Monday! already have several designs waiting for test fitment!! TJM sub frame kits coming soon :-D

GSXRATED

iTrader: (12)

Perhaps you should read what I said again. I never called you sketchy, just your method of "trailering" the car. From a professional standpoint, that looks unprofessional to me. I personally would never tow a customer's vehicle like that. I have not bashed you in any way. I simply asked for discussion about your claim of not having bump steer while still lowering the engine under the factory hood, without you ever having done so. As someone who has already done this, I wanted to hear some proof of your claims rather than let misinformation be spread. You also claimed in your own thread that you wouldn't want the engine that low, but then decided you changed your mind? If you think asking for actual data to back up a claim is immature, then I think you are missing the point.

Also, don't even try and tell me what I would or would not do for a customer or anyone else I gave my word to. You think 20 hours is bad? I drove 27 hours straight to get a Supra from IL and back through some of the worst weather I've ever seen. You are the one being immature if you think you know me and what I would do. I have no ill feelings towards you and your "business" whatsoever. I've been around this business for long enough to know that a lot of people make a lot of claims. I'm just asking for some proof, and asking you to let your work do the talking for you. Don't worry about me needing a subframe, I have full fabrication shop and already built one for myself, which you can easily find pictures of in case you want something to reference when your building your version .

SPEED_NYC

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Toyotarx7, as per the PM i sent you yesterday, please dlete/edit/fix your signature and be carefull of your posts here offering services for $$. the next step is me deleting this thread.

Thank You.

mopar97

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how about we all just get along lol.. since we are all trying to do the same thing lol..put a 2jz into a FD !


just wondering, why can he not state services for money? im curious to know ( not being a smart ***, just wanting to be informed )

he came to me and offered wiring assistance. gave me a price i couldnt say no to. he did it..and i couldnt have been any happier with it.

GSXRATED

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Because he's not paying to be a vendor on the website. You have to pay if you want to advertise.

I'm all for getting along and moving forward the jz swap community away from tech2's monopoly.

thejallenator

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ahh the 2jz. what an engine. i was reading an article in i believe the hot rod magizine and it was about this asian billionaire that took this motor and stuck in in a 69 camaro. he was able to get 800++ hp by just doing some head work, stonger springs and whatnot, a cam and of course a huge as hell turbo. its easy to get power outta it without doing really anything to the motor.

mopar97

iTrader: (7)

damn this "other engine conversion" page is dead... bump for me!!! having huge progress very soon!