Is this leak from a Bad Freeze Plug?
08-08-15, 07:01 PM
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Is this leak from a Bad Freeze Plug?
Coolant Leak Coming from the back corner of the Motor on the Passenger Side, and coming out of the Turbo Downpipe?
Is this the result of a Bad Freeze Plug? Or Bad Coolant Seal?
I've also drained Coolant from the Radiator and Engine Block, why can I only Fill 2.5 quarts of Coolant in the Filler to be Full? I know the Capacity is 2 Gallons...
And Would I have to take out the just the Transmission to fix this leak?
Last edited by RPOdesign; 08-08-15 at 07:14 PM. Reason: need more information.
08-09-15, 03:06 PM
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*Have you looked above yet? It will be hard to see, but check the hose going to the throttle-body at it's origin at the passenger side top of the rear iron. There's also the turbo coolant lines in that area (see diagram)....
* The t-stat has to open in order to fill the cooling system completely. And it will require "burping" or a Lisle funnel to get the air out.
*And it's generally discouraged to start a second thread on the same issue. Leave the New Member area and you'd likely get flamed (or worse) for that.
* The t-stat has to open in order to fill the cooling system completely. And it will require "burping" or a Lisle funnel to get the air out.
*And it's generally discouraged to start a second thread on the same issue. Leave the New Member area and you'd likely get flamed (or worse) for that.
Last edited by Sgtblue; 08-09-15 at 03:45 PM.
08-09-15, 04:53 PM
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*Have you looked above yet? It will be hard to see, but check the hose going to the throttle-body at it's origin at the passenger side top of the rear iron. There's also the turbo coolant lines in that area (see diagram)....
* The t-stat has to open in order to fill the cooling system completely. And it will require "burping" or a Lisle funnel to get the air out.
*And it's generally discouraged to start a second thread on the same issue. Leave the New Member area and you'd likely get flamed (or worse) for that.
* The t-stat has to open in order to fill the cooling system completely. And it will require "burping" or a Lisle funnel to get the air out.
*And it's generally discouraged to start a second thread on the same issue. Leave the New Member area and you'd likely get flamed (or worse) for that.
But I'll definately recheck the Top hoses again. Thanks
08-10-15, 01:18 AM
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*Have you looked above yet? It will be hard to see, but check the hose going to the throttle-body at it's origin at the passenger side top of the rear iron. There's also the turbo coolant lines in that area (see diagram)....
* The t-stat has to open in order to fill the cooling system completely. And it will require "burping" or a Lisle funnel to get the air out.
*And it's generally discouraged to start a second thread on the same issue. Leave the New Member area and you'd likely get flamed (or worse) for that.
* The t-stat has to open in order to fill the cooling system completely. And it will require "burping" or a Lisle funnel to get the air out.
*And it's generally discouraged to start a second thread on the same issue. Leave the New Member area and you'd likely get flamed (or worse) for that.
Should I get some hoses for it? And put it back on?
The AST tank has been removed as well, doesn't the AST relieve coolant pressure? Maybe that's why it's leaking Coolant all over?
The previous owner had a shop do a Non Sequential turbo upgrade, so some lines has been removed.
Just owned this FD for a Month now so...
08-10-15, 08:24 AM
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*The throttle body coolant hose isn't critical. Just make sure the cap isn't leaking.
*The AST would normally have a spring cap on it. It's function in stock form is to help remove air from the cooling system. If it's been PROPERLY removed, then your filler neck should have a spring cap.
*Regarding the non-sequential modification as an "upgrade" is a matter of opinion, though it does simplify vacuum hoses, solenoids etc. But those turbo coolant hoses would have been left in place and still could be a source of a leak in that area. Usually it's the upper hose that swells and bloats from heat and, conceivably, be a leak source in that area.
*The AST would normally have a spring cap on it. It's function in stock form is to help remove air from the cooling system. If it's been PROPERLY removed, then your filler neck should have a spring cap.
*Regarding the non-sequential modification as an "upgrade" is a matter of opinion, though it does simplify vacuum hoses, solenoids etc. But those turbo coolant hoses would have been left in place and still could be a source of a leak in that area. Usually it's the upper hose that swells and bloats from heat and, conceivably, be a leak source in that area.
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08-10-15, 03:48 PM
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*Regarding the non-sequential modification as an "upgrade" is a matter of opinion, though it does simplify vacuum hoses, solenoids etc. But those turbo coolant hoses would have been left in place and still could be a source of a leak in that area. Usually it's the upper hose that swells and bloats from heat and, conceivably, be a leak source in that area.
It seems like Boost only comes on after 4k rpm, and feels like a single turbo.
Last edited by RPOdesign; 08-10-15 at 06:15 PM. Reason: Found it.
08-10-15, 07:38 PM
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So I Finally found the iron coolant plug...it was Hidden behind a lot of wires and hoses. Even with two flashlights it was hard to see.
I also Found Coolant in the Surrounding crevices and deep pockets around that Plug!
I will probably take off the Intake Manifold to get a better look, and replace the Plug. But Thanks Again for helping me Find the Source of the Leaks!! Now I don't have to worry about taking out the Motor and rebuilding it, or Even think about taking it to Good Year!! Hah thanks again guys!
I also Found Coolant in the Surrounding crevices and deep pockets around that Plug!
I will probably take off the Intake Manifold to get a better look, and replace the Plug. But Thanks Again for helping me Find the Source of the Leaks!! Now I don't have to worry about taking out the Motor and rebuilding it, or Even think about taking it to Good Year!! Hah thanks again guys!
Last edited by RPOdesign; 08-10-15 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Found it
08-11-15, 07:38 AM
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Well, that's half the battle...finding the leak. Just thinking out-loud, if that plug failed, you might want to check the plug that's at the origin of the same line at the back of the water-pump housing as well.
It might be just as easy to simply loop an intact GOOD quality hose between those two points (i.e. the rear iron and water-pump housing) rather than messing with plugs.
It might be just as easy to simply loop an intact GOOD quality hose between those two points (i.e. the rear iron and water-pump housing) rather than messing with plugs.
08-11-15, 05:01 PM
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Well, that's half the battle...finding the leak. Just thinking out-loud, if that plug failed, you might want to check the plug that's at the origin of the same line at the back of the water-pump housing as well.
It might be just as easy to simply loop an intact GOOD quality hose between those two points (i.e. the rear iron and water-pump housing) rather than messing with plugs.
It might be just as easy to simply loop an intact GOOD quality hose between those two points (i.e. the rear iron and water-pump housing) rather than messing with plugs.
08-11-15, 07:47 PM
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Mmmm, been a few years, but my best recollection is that the nipples are the same size and take the same size hose. I looped mine years ago. IIRC, there's enough nipple length to double clamp too. Not the best picture, but that's it...makes a great line for a coolant temp gauge sensor too, which is what you see in the middle of it.
Last edited by Sgtblue; 08-11-15 at 07:49 PM.
08-11-15, 09:36 PM
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Jim's setup is neat and tidy, but you may want to route the hose around the block on the drivers side so you can see any future leaks (you definitely don't want to run it on the passenger's side). McMaster Carr is a good source for the hose and you should get something that can withstand some heat (esp if you run it under the UIM)
08-11-15, 10:45 PM
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Mmmm, been a few years, but my best recollection is that the nipples are the same size and take the same size hose. I looped mine years ago. IIRC, there's enough nipple length to double clamp too. Not the best picture, but that's it...makes a great line for a coolant temp gauge sensor too, which is what you see in the middle of it.
I was just thinking about just connecting the Two points. Makes my life more Simple...lol
Last edited by RPOdesign; 08-11-15 at 11:05 PM.
08-11-15, 10:59 PM
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Jim's setup is neat and tidy, but you may want to route the hose around the block on the drivers side so you can see any future leaks (you definitely don't want to run it on the passenger's side). McMaster Carr is a good source for the hose and you should get something that can withstand some heat (esp if you run it under the UIM)
08-12-15, 08:17 AM
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Personal taste and opinion on exactly how you route the hose. Obviously I don't believe doubling the length and going around the side of the engine is necessary.
08-12-15, 08:40 PM
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I had to firmly pull the Wiring Harness to the side to show you the Hidden rear iron Plug.
Shredded the plug off with Vice Grips, and what's left is a pretty corroded Tip, and as you can see, evidence of DEXCOOL in the left pocket.
Last edited by RPOdesign; 08-12-15 at 10:51 PM.
08-13-15, 07:14 AM
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Get er dun..and quit running that crappy DEX COOL..It is not Worth the jug it is in.
Flush the cooling system and get rid of it.
I've seen cooling systems that look like someone ran jelly beans through it,..Ya..Dex Cool...
You could take this **** and squeeze it like gummy bears.
Flush the cooling system and get rid of it.
I've seen cooling systems that look like someone ran jelly beans through it,..Ya..Dex Cool...
You could take this **** and squeeze it like gummy bears.
08-14-15, 01:10 AM
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Get er dun..and quit running that crappy DEX COOL..It is not Worth the jug it is in.
Flush the cooling system and get rid of it.
I've seen cooling systems that look like someone ran jelly beans through it,..Ya..Dex Cool...
You could take this **** and squeeze it like gummy bears.
Flush the cooling system and get rid of it.
I've seen cooling systems that look like someone ran jelly beans through it,..Ya..Dex Cool...
You could take this **** and squeeze it like gummy bears.
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