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Old 02-08-07, 09:27 PM
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i am still trying to figure out if the m2r falls in the MX00 series or the mX series. It seems to have some features from each.
I asked a Motec dealer that I know about the M2R. Here is what he said:
"The M2R is based on the M4, which is a fairly old ECU. Its a good value for people with simple 2-rotor applications, but isn't in the same class as any of the newer, more powerful ECUs available on the market. Plus, once you add all the options you'd typically want such as Lambda and Logging, the value diminishes a bit.

Still, being a MOTEC, you know its a stable, well-designed unit which will make injecting the motors its designed for easy!"
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so is there a chance that they can upgrade the software of the mSeries to XP?
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I would have just gone with the m600. If you read though all of the Mx00 series motec units can control a rotary, on;y thier optiosn are more advanced and I imagien the ecu chip is more powerful as well. Especially if it isnt plug n play, what the point right?
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Originally Posted by Xeros
I would have just gone with the m600. If you read though all of the Mx00 series motec units can control a rotary, on;y thier optiosn are more advanced and I imagien the ecu chip is more powerful as well. Especially if it isnt plug n play, what the point right?
the m600 is up around $3k for just the ECU itself, no harness.
This thing is half the price w/ the harness
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Originally Posted by Xeros
I would have just gone with the m600. If you read though all of the Mx00 series motec units can control a rotary, on;y thier optiosn are more advanced and I imagien the ecu chip is more powerful as well. Especially if it isnt plug n play, what the point right?

it was mostly about the right product at the right price. I am on stock turbo at this point(big turbo in the works) , and I am happy to have an ECU that is strictly for 2Rotor. Before I found out my engine harness was fried, I was going to use Rtek, so I'd say this is quite the upgrade.
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oh, BTW, i got some pix of the install. Here is part one of the Motec install.


Funny, for the price of this thing, you think they'd give some mounting options. But we had to fab this little bracket for it.
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how you figure that?
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Funny, for the price of this thing, you think they'd give some mounting options. But we had to fab this little bracket for it.
I used velcro to mount mine to an AL panel, works great.
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do you think the glue will last with the heat on the floor board?
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wires made it through the firewall
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Originally Posted by stylEmon
do you think the glue will last with the heat on the floor board?

Ah forgot.. Fd's don't mount to the floorboard, mines in the kickpanel. Haven't had any problems thus far though.
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don't know why, I just assumed you had an FC... my bad.
Sounds cool
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so i am looking to buy the sensors i need to run my engine, and some clips (inj). It seems that I've gotta buy the set from motec. it seems a little pricey but i suppose they add up.
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I'm working on installing an M2R in my 1st gen. Below are some pics. As for the sensors, you can get them at a few other locations such as DIYAutoTune.com for substantially less than buying from MoTeC.
Attached Thumbnails My *Official* Motec M2R Thread-underhood2.jpg   My *Official* Motec M2R Thread-underhood3.jpg   My *Official* Motec M2R Thread-ecu-ign-boxes.jpg   My *Official* Motec M2R Thread-ecu-footrest.jpg   My *Official* Motec M2R Thread-underhood1.jpg  

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Regarding mounting brackets, I made mine out of aluminum L stock (see the 3rd pic). They attach to the ECU through the case screws at each end. This setup is very simple to make, mounts the unit securely, and makes the ECU easy to install / remove.
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hey bro, i really dig that mounting. I am jeleous of all the engine bay you have!! At least I got something on the FD guys tho. I already got my sensors from motec. wish i woulda talked to you sooner. It was like 245 for tps, air temp, water temp, inj clips, map sensor.. i think thats it.
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Thanks. That little stuff can really nickel and dime you to death. Since I have more time than money, I do a lot of checking around. Believe it or not, eBay is also a good source for some of this stuff if you know exactly what you need.

I'm hoping to get my engine running this coming weekend then dyno tune it on April 4th. I'll keep you posted.
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i've heard that about ebay, but still dont really like it. definitly keep me posted.

does any one have any ideas about getting my thermocouple to read for the gauge AND motec?

heres what i got.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=226669
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does any one have any ideas about getting my thermocouple to read for the gauge AND motec?

heres what i got.
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=226669
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Originally Posted by stylEmon
ya but what other ecu's even make proper use of the wideband reading. I mean, most systems just log the A/F info right. The motec actually adjust based on the reading. I think AEM is the only other ecu that does that.
MegaSquirt. Autotune is a joy to use.

Also the Wolf autotune software is close to being done I think, Haltech has autotune software (though not publicly released last I heard) and Microtech is working on the same thing...
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Hey man...stock ecu is the way to go :p who needs to "tune" pff...
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Couldn't get my engine started. Had fuel, had spark, didn't have compression. I knew the engine was marginal when I installed it, but some seals must have stuck during the year it sat in my garage. I pulled the engine & I'm about to send it off for a rebuild -- probably for the best in retrospect, but I was trying to save $$.
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Setting Initial Timing with M2R

I came up with this procedure after talking with MoTeC West. I think it will work to get the engine running, since the timing light did confirm. Interestingly enough, my "better" Actron timing light didn't work, while my neighbor's el cheapo light did.

Setting Initial Timing with M2R:

1. Set pulley to 5ATDC mark (the first one)
2. Insert distributor by aligning marks at gear end.
3. Once installed the dissy should look like the image below
4. Set rotary split in ignition table to 5.0 around the area in question.
5. Connect timing light to T1 and align the 5ATDC mark with the pointer.
6. Leading Timing will now be set to TDC.
7. Be sure the CRIP is set to zero.
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thanks for the info elwood.

Has anyone had an issue with the motec software?
My ECU isnt communicating with the laptop.
Also, the software won't close without crashing.
I have wondowsXP.

any help here?


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